If you wanted an iPhone SE new from Apple, you've probably missed your chance

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• Reply 1 of 28

  M68000 Posts: 727member

  January 21, 2019 2:47PM

  "while there may have been rumors for a while suggesting Apple will be bringing out a successor to the iPhone SE"...     Yeah,   this should happen.   How about a refresh with slightly larger screen and smaller overall form factor than the 8,  at a $549 price ?      I think a small phone like that would even be convenient for travel.  What?  it won't have the best camera like the XS?   Doesn't matter to me,  I use a DSLR when traveling.    They (Apple) have to know about the backlash about phones getting too big... 

  
• Reply 2 of 28

  emig647 Posts: 2,455member

  January 21, 2019 3:04PM

  I agree with the backlash. Not only are they getting too big, they are getting too thin. It isn’t becoming too difficult to hold, it is too difficult to hold for me. Between the rounded edges and thinner design I don’t feel like I can hold it with confidence. 
  
  I’d much rather go back to an upgraded SE, maybe with an edge to edge screen and call it good. 
  
  Side note: I’m another one that is on the upgrade program and refused to get a Xs from my X. 

  edited January 2019
• Reply 3 of 28

  lmac Posts: 206member

  January 21, 2019 3:05PM

  So foxconn is cutting 50000 jobs because of low demand for Apples flagship $1000+ phones, but the SE sells out in a day. I hope someone at Apple is paying attention. Everyone wants an iphone, but not everyone has $1000 to spend.

  
• Reply 4 of 28

  wood1208 Posts: 2,913member

  January 21, 2019 3:13PM

  SE is the last iPhone(or any phone) in 4" screen size. World has moved to larger screen phones even in 3rd world countries user base. Due to such trend, not big enough buyer base for smaller screen phones at $400-$500 price point. One can only hope for iPhone in around 5" size screen(4.7" iPhone 8 frame) LCD with faceid, older hardware for lower price than current larger screen iPhones. Those want relatively smaller size edge-to-edge phone at better($500-$600) price point will trade/sacrifice against buying expensive newer tech/hardware phone. But, I doubt Apple will introduce such iPhone to avoid confusion among buyers for older vs newer iPhones and pricing levels. 
  

  edited January 2019
• Reply 5 of 28

  jdmac29 Posts: 42member

  January 21, 2019 3:24PM

  I got lucky and for a gold se 32gb Saturday night after reading an article  clearance sale. 
  My daughter is 10 and the bigger phones will not go in her jeans front pocket. This will work great for first iphone. Apple should reconsider the 4 inch form factor I think they will sell some just as an option for lower priced iPhones. 

  
• Reply 6 of 28

  schlack Posts: 720member

  January 21, 2019 3:40PM

  $250 is cheap, but considering that I could pick up a used one for $100 on eBay, I'd just go pick up on for $100.
• Reply 7 of 28

  wood1208 Posts: 2,913member

  January 21, 2019 3:47PM

  schlack said:

  $250 is cheap, but considering that I could pick up a used one for $100 on eBay, I'd just go pick up on for $100.

  Most People pay more for New, Warranty, Peace of mind,etc.

  
• Reply 8 of 28

  indiekiduk Posts: 381member

  January 21, 2019 4:00PM

  schlack said:

  $250 is cheap, but considering that I could pick up a used one for $100 on eBay, I'd just go pick up on for $100.

  Risk of fake screen and fake battery though. I think Apple's deal was better.

  
• Reply 9 of 28

  MplsP Posts: 3,929member

  January 21, 2019 4:25PM

  emig647 said:

  I agree with the backlash. Not only are they getting too big, they are getting too thin. It isn’t becoming too difficult to hold, it is too difficult to hold for me. Between the rounded edges and thinner design I don’t feel like I can hold it with confidence. 
  
  I’d much rather go back to an upgraded SE, maybe with an edge to edge screen and call it good. 
  
  Side note: I’m another one that is on the upgrade program and refused to get a Xs from my X. 

  jdmac29 said:

  I got lucky and for a gold se 32gb Saturday night after reading an article  clearance sale. 
  My daughter is 10 and the bigger phones will not go in her jeans front pocket. This will work great for first iphone. Apple should reconsider the 4 inch form factor I think they will sell some just as an option for lower priced iPhones. 

  I definitely think there's a market for quality but not top of the line phones. The 5c was a good example of this and now the rush on the SE's. It's hard to say how much of the demand was artificial because it was a clearance sale, but I've talked to many people who balk at the cost of cell phones these days. On top of that, many women prefer smaller phones because the pockets in women's clothes are ridiculously small (if they have them at all.)  My hands are fairly large (I wear XXL gloves) and I have a hard time reaching on my Xs at times, so I'm sure people with smaller hands might appreciate the smaller screen size, too.
  
  

  
• Reply 10 of 28

  kruegdude Posts: 340member

  January 21, 2019 4:28PM

  lmac said:

  So foxconn is cutting 50000 jobs because of low demand for Apples flagship $1000+ phones, but the SE sells out in a day. I hope someone at Apple is paying attention. Everyone wants an iphone, but not everyone has $1000 to spend.

  Your first sencontains a lot of inaccuracies. You should correct it. 
• Reply 11 of 28

  boogerman2000 Posts: 417member

  January 21, 2019 4:37PM

  emig647 said:

  I agree with the backlash. Not only are they getting too big, they are getting too thin. It isn’t becoming too difficult to hold, it is too difficult to hold for me. Between the rounded edges and thinner design I don’t feel like I can hold it with confidence. 
  
  I’d much rather go back to an upgraded SE, maybe with an edge to edge screen and call it good. 
  
  Side note: I’m another one that is on the upgrade program and refused to get a Xs from my X. 

  The larger sizes are def necessary but tim c is disregarding many loyal, valued customers that prefer smaller, affordable, flagship quality devices. but the course has beed set.
  
  Thinness weight. Apple is a company which has consistently singled out these two particular qualities with regrd to laptops, tablets and phones. They say thinness is compelling. I agree. They say lightness is compelling. I agree. people who like heavy devices prefer the feeling of a weighty battery in their pocket? why? The future is paper thin and light as a feather or it should be. 

  
• Reply 12 of 28

  AppleExposed Posts: 1,805unconfirmed, member

  January 21, 2019 5:11PM

  At $249 I bet they still made a profit. Using this price as a reference a new SE could have:
  
  1. Better single-lens camera
  
  2. 3D Touch
  
  3. Face ID
  
  4. A11 chip
  
  That's it. Adding these features we can expect a price-point around $499. Make only one storage size option to eliminate customer confusion and streamline production.
  
  Choose your color in 128GB.
  
  Keep the exact same form but now that it's bezel-less you get a LARGER screen. Because it's a boxy design you can shrink the bezel even more.
  
  
  
  
  
  Come on Apple!! Doesn't take a genius to figure this out!!!

  
• Reply 13 of 28

  macgui Posts: 2,360member

  January 21, 2019 5:12PM

  The SE form factor is fine. It doesn't need to be bigger. Just update the screen and usual bits and call it a day.
  
  I wonder how many SE were sold. Apple may have had only a 'few'. So the fact they sold quickly doesn't mean they sold a lot and Apple 'took notice'.
  
  But maybe an Xse is in the works and Apple wanted to clean out the closet. Just because I can hold an Xs Max doesn't mean I want that slab against my head not to mention finding a pocket that it will fit in.

  
• Reply 14 of 28

  canukstorm Posts: 2,700member

  January 21, 2019 6:43PM

  Some thoughts from a mobile developer
  
  1.  

  https://twitter.com/elkmovie/status/1087377421043675136

  
  
  2.  

  https://twitter.com/elkmovie/status/1087377423006609408

  edited January 2019
• Reply 15 of 28

  sdbryan Posts: 351member

  January 21, 2019 8:30PM

  macgui said:

  The SE form factor is fine. It doesn't need to be bigger. Just update the screen and usual bits and call it a day.
  

  I agree and would like to point out that its current form factor is probably the main source of its appeal. I don’t want a larger phone which is labeled as an SE to replace my iPhone SE. I want face ID, more memory, faster processor like I have in my new 12.9” iPad Pro. I am not opposed to large screen iOS devices. In fact I would prefer an even larger iPad Pro if it were available. But I want my phone to be a one hand device that easily fits in my pocket.
  
  It should be noted that it seems like the rest of the handset market has abandoned the SE form factor, so Apple could rule there by default and gain converts who don’t want to be forced to a larger form factor when they update.

  
• Reply 16 of 28

  michaelahlers Posts: 7member

  January 21, 2019 10:11PM

  Hint, hint, hint…

  edited January 2019
• Reply 17 of 28

  DAalseth Posts: 2,783member

  January 21, 2019 10:52PM

  If the HomePod has enough customers to keep it in production,
  then there surely must be enough demand for a small phone to keep one in the line.
  

  
• Reply 18 of 28

  wood1208 Posts: 2,913member

  January 22, 2019 12:47AM

  Can't believe people hoping for the SE kind iPhone release. Apple selling all of it's inventory of new SE starting low $250 shows clearance and never think about that kind of iPhone.
  
• Reply 19 of 28

  DAalseth Posts: 2,783member

  January 22, 2019 2:50AM

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  digitol Posts: 276member

  January 22, 2019 5:19AM

  CLues Blues ApPle. THe people have spoken. Not always is jumbo assinine sized bigger is better mentality like phones the choice. Some of us realistics, like hand sized phones, with the latest tech. Do it or someone else just might.