Mac Pro will be 'easy-to-upgrade,' debut in 2019 alongside 31.6-inch Apple 6K display

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in Future Apple Hardware edited February 19
Among three all-new Mac products expected to debut from Apple in 2019 are an "easy-to-upgrade" Mac Pro and a 31.6-inch Apple 6K display with high-end backlight technology, according to well-informed analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

LG's UltraFine 5K monitor, built in collaboration with Apple.
LG's UltraFine 5K monitor, built in collaboration with Apple.


The analyst shared the details in a research note late Sunday evening in which he provided no further details on the design of the Mac Pro, but said the 31.6-inch Apple 6K3K display will feature "outstanding picture quality thanks to its adoption of the Mini LED-like backlight design."

Pros have been clamoring for an updated Mac Pro after the last left few options in terms of upgradability. The promised design will please many, but not all, of those critics.

A 6K3K display refers to standard 6K resolution of 6,144 x 3,072 which at a 31.6-inch diagonal size will yield a pixel density of roughly 217 ppi. The 15-inch MacBook Pro has 221 ppi, with the iMac 5K coming in at 218.

Apple discontinued its previous display -- the Apple Thunderbolt Display -- in June of 2016 with no successor in sight, instead ceding the market to third parties. Reports still trickled out indicating Apple was indeed working on new displays, possibly with an integrated eGPU.

During the time since, Apple has partnered with LG on a pair of high-end monitors that while impressive, left much to be desired in the aesthetics department. The LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays connected over USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 respectively. They did support many of Apple's features normally reserved for its own hardware such as TrueTune.

In April 2017 Apple first teased its newly redesigned modular Mac Pro. At the same time, and reiterated when the iMac Pro shipped to customers, a new pro-level display was also said to be in the cards.

In Apple's stead, third parties monitors have been picking up the slack. AppleInsider recently went hands-on with the BenQ Thunderbolt 3 HDR monitor and the LG UltraWide 5K2K Thunderbolt monitor.

In the same, note, Kuo also said Apple plans to release a new 16- to 16.5-inch MacBook Pro targeted at professional designers, gamers, and so forth.
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  • Reply 1 of 73
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    boboliciouswatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 73
    netroxnetrox Posts: 716member
    That would be an extraordinary product if it manages to produce 6K3K display with Mini LED.
    cornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 73
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    how much it will cost
    cornchipdysamoriadws-2fastasleep
  • Reply 4 of 73
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    Exactly - will this be yet another proprietary 'bag of hurt' from Apple like the 5K displays ?

    My vote would be for 40" 4K @ 110 dpi and 40" 8k at 220 dpi pro retina - this would tie in with cinema, thunderbolt, scaled retina, apple tv 4k (8k?) and so much more... After using the former (40" 4k) I find 27" anything surprisingly ineffective and inefficient in comparison.

    I look forward to an effective upgrade to the 17" mbp, hopefully @ 4k...

    ...and please a mini that has a discrete gpu to match the upgraded cpu, and all with flexible internal industry standard upgradable storage & ram options... 'Pro' computers 'for the rest of us'...?

    I guess time will tell...

    edited February 17 williamlondon
  • Reply 5 of 73
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 1,016member
    There should be a second version of the display with enough of an eGPU to allow it to be driven by a Laptop or long lenght thunderbolt cable. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 73
    What graphics card would they throw in a pro/gaming 16.5" MBP? An updated Vega 20? A mobile RTX 2080?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 73
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 4,787member
    What graphics card would they throw in a pro/gaming 16.5" MBP? An updated Vega 20? A mobile RTX 2080?
    Apple doesn't support NVIDIA graphics anymore. So it would have to be AMD. I would think Apple would just use Vega20 graphics as its used today. Apple is well known for never using the latest and greatest graphics, even in its newest products. 
    cornchipdysamoria
  • Reply 8 of 73
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 4,787member

    tyler82 said:
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    how much it will cost
    For the market it would be aimed at...it doesn't matter how much it costs. It wouldn't be aimed at a consumer even though they will be bitching up a storm about how expensive it is. 
    MisterKitwatto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 73
    thttht Posts: 3,100member
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    Exactly - will this be yet another proprietary 'bag of hurt' from Apple like the 5K displays ?

    My vote would be for 40" 4K @ 110 dpi and 40" 8k at 220 dpi pro retina - this would tie in with cinema, thunderbolt, scaled retina, apple tv 4k (8k?) and so much more... After using the former (40" 4k) I find 27" anything surprisingly ineffective and inefficient in comparison.

    I look forward to an effective upgrade to the 17" mbp, hopefully @ 4k...

    ...and please a mini that has a discrete gpu to match the upgraded cpu, and all with flexible internal industry standard upgradable storage & ram options... 'Pro' computers 'for the rest of us'...?

    I guess time will tell...


    The display sounds like Apple is using the same DPI from their 5K display and applying it to a 31.6” monitor, which will end up to be pretty to close to 6000x3000 pixels. 

    The rumored 31.6” monitor is a rather precise number. Sounds like Kuo found who is making the display, if true. 
    netroxcornchipfastasleepwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 73
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,694member
    Sounds beautiful.   We will love everything about it but the Price.   I'm expecting $1,999.
    cornchipdysamoria
  • Reply 11 of 73
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,694member
    Can I hope for a laptop with a greater travel keyboard?
    williamlondondysamoria
  • Reply 12 of 73
    A new upgradable Mac Pro is too late. Many professionals have given up on Apple's pro line, as the company focused more and more on consumers and prosumers. 

    Death of Pro products 
    - xserve  (killing this, harmed the 1U render farm) . I used to run a render farm using these 1Us . 
       Also another VFX company with 500 artists used 1U supermicros with PCoIP cards to display their linux/Windows workstations to Vancouver. 
       Not having a 1U also hampered the ability for PCoIP options for VFX houses. 
    - xsan 
    - xraid  
    - MacPro , upgradable graphics card  silver chassis with 4 bays  
    - MacOSX server 
    - Aperture (killing this was fine and ceding this market to Adobe) 
    - The debacle from FCP 3 to FCPX (they didn't listen to their pro customers when removing features in the first iterations). Many move to 
       Avid or Adobe because of this. 
    - Apple Cinema Display.  Not replacing it with a Pro display that can use a Thunderbolt3 bus, have 10/1 gigabit ethernet (pseudo-docking station) 
      Not having a matte display option for professionals. Lack of fine control (RGB sliders) on the hardware monitor to color calibrate, not just in software. 

    Speaking from experience from an all Apple VFX shop in 2010-2012. After that it was hard to convince ANY VFX shop to be all Apple. It was nearly impossible. 
    edited February 18 boboliciouswelshdogdysamoria
  • Reply 13 of 73
    entropysentropys Posts: 1,617member
    Pity Kuo had little to say about the iMac.
    bobolicious
  • Reply 14 of 73
    tht said:
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    Exactly - will this be yet another proprietary 'bag of hurt' from Apple like the 5K displays ?

    My vote would be for 40" 4K @ 110 dpi and 40" 8k at 220 dpi pro retina - this would tie in with cinema, thunderbolt, scaled retina, apple tv 4k (8k?) and so much more... After using the former (40" 4k) I find 27" anything surprisingly ineffective and inefficient in comparison.

    I look forward to an effective upgrade to the 17" mbp, hopefully @ 4k...

    ...and please a mini that has a discrete gpu to match the upgraded cpu, and all with flexible internal industry standard upgradable storage & ram options... 'Pro' computers 'for the rest of us'...?

    I guess time will tell...


    The display sounds like Apple is using the same DPI from their 5K display and applying it to a 31.6” monitor, which will end up to be pretty to close to 6000x3000 pixels. 

    The rumored 31.6” monitor is a rather precise number. Sounds like Kuo found who is making the display, if true. 
    ...exactly - would it be too much to ask for compatibility with the rest of the planet...?  Would a large 4K display serve both budget conscious pros (students) and Apple TV,  while an 8k serve pros benefiting from retina resolution and future proofing...? 6K? Is this 'where the puck is going'?
    edited February 18
  • Reply 15 of 73
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    tht said:
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    Exactly - will this be yet another proprietary 'bag of hurt' from Apple like the 5K displays ?

    My vote would be for 40" 4K @ 110 dpi and 40" 8k at 220 dpi pro retina - this would tie in with cinema, thunderbolt, scaled retina, apple tv 4k (8k?) and so much more... After using the former (40" 4k) I find 27" anything surprisingly ineffective and inefficient in comparison.

    I look forward to an effective upgrade to the 17" mbp, hopefully @ 4k...

    ...and please a mini that has a discrete gpu to match the upgraded cpu, and all with flexible internal industry standard upgradable storage & ram options... 'Pro' computers 'for the rest of us'...?

    I guess time will tell...


    The display sounds like Apple is using the same DPI from their 5K display and applying it to a 31.6” monitor, which will end up to be pretty to close to 6000x3000 pixels. 

    The rumored 31.6” monitor is a rather precise number. Sounds like Kuo found who is making the display, if true. 
    ...exactly - is this simply more of the same proprietary incompatibility with the rest of the planet...?
    While it will probably be connected by the not-proprietary Thunderbolt 3, DisplayPort 1.4 has a max resolution of 7680x4320 at 60Hz.

    The last proprietary connector on an Apple display was ADC.
    edited February 18 cornchipdysamoriafastasleepwatto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 73
    Here's what I'd like to see:
    Mac Pro with a base price of $1499; fully loaded $9,999
    21" 4K display, $999 (preferably $799)
    27" 5K display, $1499 (preferably $999)
    32" 6K display, $1999 (preferably $1499)
    edited February 18 wozwozdysamoria
  • Reply 17 of 73
    DisplayPort 1.4 has a max resolution of 7680x4320 at 60Hz.
    So with that resolution DisplayPort 1.4 could potentially go up to 8K. Too bad we are going up to 6K next. Would any existing eGPUs support a 6K monitor? How about the "BlackMagic eGPU Pro"? Since Apple helped make that eGPU, and Apple knew 6K was coming, perhaps it's capable of 6K? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 73
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    Exactly - will this be yet another proprietary 'bag of hurt' from Apple like the 5K displays ?

    My vote would be for 40" 4K @ 110 dpi and 40" 8k at 220 dpi pro retina - this would tie in with cinema, thunderbolt, scaled retina, apple tv 4k (8k?) and so much more... After using the former (40" 4k) I find 27" anything surprisingly ineffective and inefficient in comparison.

    I look forward to an effective upgrade to the 17" mbp, hopefully @ 4k...

    ...and please a mini that has a discrete gpu to match the upgraded cpu, and all with flexible internal industry standard upgradable storage & ram options... 'Pro' computers 'for the rest of us'...?

    I guess time will tell...

    You can enable 4K on a 15” by simply using “more space” option.

    I think that “advanced backlight” would be local dimming, which already used by many HDR monitors.  Put it simple, it’s grid of LED which can be turned off individually, therefore achieving true blacks when needed.  The downsides are size, complexity, power and cost.  I also don’t think there are any mobile devices with local dimming.
    edited February 18 watto_cobra
  • Reply 19 of 73
    macxpress said:

    tyler82 said:
    abolish said:
    What is a “6K3K” display?
    how much it will cost
    For the market it would be aimed at...it doesn't matter how much it costs. It wouldn't be aimed at a consumer even though they will be bitching up a storm about how expensive it is. 

    you take yourself too seriously.
    dysamoriafastasleep
  • Reply 20 of 73
    DisplayPort 1.4 has a max resolution of 7680x4320 at 60Hz.
    So with that resolution DisplayPort 1.4 could potentially go up to 8K. Too bad we are going up to 6K next. Would any existing eGPUs support a 6K monitor? How about the "BlackMagic eGPU Pro"? Since Apple helped make that eGPU, and Apple knew 6K was coming, perhaps it's capable of 6K? 
    Higher resolution always means more power with similar technology, if 6K is true, it can still be a good balance.
    watto_cobra
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