Apple has doled out $120 billion to app developers worldwide in 11 years

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In the 11 years since Apple first opened the App Store, developers worldwide have received over $120 billion, with European developers collecting just over $25 billion of that.

Detail from the iOS App Store
Detail from the iOS App Store


Apple's Vice President of Apple Music and International Sales, Oliver Schusser, revealed the payouts on Thursday. He revealed the figures in a statement first reported by German site Macerkopf and which also included some details of the company's ambitions with both App Stores and its various services.

Schusser said, translated from German, that "our services, which include content stores, Apple Pay and iCloud Storage, are targeting $40 billion in annual sales."

This means that European app creators have earned 20.83 percent of the total revenue from the App Stores and that percentage is a significant decrease since previous reports. Back in 2014, Apple announced worldwide developer revenues were $20 billion and that European ones had then earned $6.5 billion or 32.5 percent.

Apple revealed that there are 650,000 active podcast
Apple revealed that there are 650,000 active podcast


In the same statement, Schusser confirmed previous reports of how many subscribers Apple Music has, and trumpeted new figures for podcast listening too.

"Since its launch nearly four years ago, Apple Music now has 50 million paying users around the world," he said in the translated statement. "We are the leading music streaming service in the US and the world's leading music service on the iPhone. The last update I want to release today is Podcasting, where our customers downloaded and streamed over 50 billion episodes of 650,000 active shows on Apple Podcasts."

Oliver Schusser was promoted to Vice President of Apple Music and International Sales in April 2018, around the same time that Jimmy Iovine announced his own move into a consulting role. Schusser is believed to have been instrumental in Apple's purchasing of Shazam and to now be overseeing label deals and exclusives for the Apple Music platform.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 16
    Another way of presenting the statistic in the headline is "Developers generate $51 Billion dollars in revenue for Apple."

    The App Store may be the single greatest development in personal computing in the 21st Century, but it's a two way street. An App Store is only successful if it's stocked with compelling stuff from creative developers. Apple has certainly made it easier for developers to reach a wider audience, but devs managed to generate revenue before the existence of the App Store, and many still do without it.

    Are developers successful because of the App Store or is the App Store successful because of developers?
    indieshack
  • Reply 2 of 16
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Are developers successful because of the App Store or is the App Store successful because of developers?
    Both can be true.
  • Reply 3 of 16
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member
    Another way of presenting the statistic in the headline is "Developers generate $51 Billion dollars in revenue for Apple."

    The App Store may be the single greatest development in personal computing in the 21st Century, but it's a two way street. An App Store is only successful if it's stocked with compelling stuff from creative developers. Apple has certainly made it easier for developers to reach a wider audience, but devs managed to generate revenue before the existence of the App Store, and many still do without it.

    Are developers successful because of the App Store or is the App Store successful because of developers?
    Apple's role is just as important as that of the developers. They both benefit greatly from what the other does.

    Apple gives them a market to develop for. It delivers that market to developers in a way that makes it much easier for most of them to monetize their work (or, for those who rely on other revenue streams, makes it easier to grow or maintain those revenue streams). On the other side, developers create more and more utility for Apple products and thus help sell them.
    racerhomie3cornchip
  • Reply 4 of 16
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    indieshackcornchipradarthekat
  • Reply 5 of 16
    carnegie said:
    Another way of presenting the statistic in the headline is "Developers generate $51 Billion dollars in revenue for Apple."

    The App Store may be the single greatest development in personal computing in the 21st Century, but it's a two way street. An App Store is only successful if it's stocked with compelling stuff from creative developers. Apple has certainly made it easier for developers to reach a wider audience, but devs managed to generate revenue before the existence of the App Store, and many still do without it.

    Are developers successful because of the App Store or is the App Store successful because of developers?
    Apple's role is just as important as that of the developers. They both benefit greatly from what the other does.

    Apple gives them a market to develop for. It delivers that market to developers in a way that makes it much easier for most of them to monetize their work (or, for those who rely on other revenue streams, makes it easier to grow or maintain those revenue streams). On the other side, developers create more and more utility for Apple products and thus help sell them.
    I agree 100%, it's created a new economic scenario, just as Youtube has done with Google. However this article title could probably have been better phrased.
  • Reply 6 of 16
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    radarthekat
  • Reply 7 of 16
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; Morefinancial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 
    LITERARY
    a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;Moreinformaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
  • Reply 8 of 16
    I must say, I’m extremely angry with Apple right now. I bought a $9.99 music production app for iOS on the App Store that had incomplete information so I was unsure if it would work with Apple’s iOS version of GarageBand. It turns out it doesn’t and when I went step-by-step through the process to get a refund through the App Store app, the message I kept getting was something to the effect of “We’ve determined your request is not valid” and offered me no alternatives.

    So a customer who pays for a pro app is now not entitled to a refund if the app was deceptively or improperly advertised? That’s BS and amounts to a very un-Apple experience. I’m furious at Apple for doing this.
    edited February 2019
  • Reply 9 of 16
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    Well all of those are wrong. Apple isn’t distributing or sharing revenues from the App Store. Developers earned that money. Apple was the payment processor.
  • Reply 10 of 16
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    The headline says ‘dole out,’ not ‘the dole’. The dole means something very different than dole out.

    That second definition of dole (the one defining it as a verb, as it is used here) is consistent with the usage here: distribute shares of something; synonym - disburse.

    Not every definition of a word has to be consistent with a given usage in order for that usage to be proper.

    Also:

    dole out: To distribute something, either physically or verbally.

    dole out: to give out (something) to appropriate individuals

  • Reply 11 of 16
    crowley said:
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    Well all of those are wrong. Apple isn’t distributing or sharing revenues from the App Store. Developers earned that money. Apple was the payment processor. Me original point exactly. 
  • Reply 12 of 16
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    The headline says ‘dole out,’ not ‘the dole’. The dole means something very different than dole out.

    That second definition of dole (the one defining it as a verb, as it is used here) is consistent with the usage here: distribute shares of something; synonym - disburse.

    Not every definition of a word has to be consistent with a given usage in order for that usage to be proper.

    Also:

    dole out: To distribute something, either physically or verbally.

    dole out: to give out (something) to appropriate individuals

    While not every definition has to be considered, they could simply say “Apple has paid app developers 120 billion dollars
    over the past 11 years”. Clear and to the point without the negative and incorrect connotations that come with the word.  
  • Reply 13 of 16
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    bulk001 said:
    While not every definition has to be considered, they could simply say “Apple has paid app developers 120 billion dollars
    over the past 11 years”. Clear and to the point without the negative and incorrect connotations that come with the word.  
    Better, but I think even that isn't perfect.  'Paid' carries an implication that the developers have done a service for Apple which isn't the case.  The monetary relationship is simply that Apple is the payment processor.  You wouldn't say that PayPal has 'paid' ebay sellers, or that Square has 'paid' vendors that use its tech.  It would be more accurate and unambiguous to simply say that "Developers have earned $120bn in revenue from the App Store over the past 11 years".
    edited February 2019
  • Reply 14 of 16
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member
    crowley said:
    bulk001 said:
    While not every definition has to be considered, they could simply say “Apple has paid app developers 120 billion dollars
    over the past 11 years”. Clear and to the point without the negative and incorrect connotations that come with the word.  
    Better, but I think even that isn't perfect.  'Paid' carries an implication that the developers have done a service for Apple which isn't the case.  The monetary relationship is simply that Apple is the payment processor.  You wouldn't say that PayPal has 'paid' ebay sellers, or that Square has 'paid' vendors that use its tech.  It would be more accurate and unambiguous to simply say that "Developers have earned $120bn in revenue from the App Store over the past 11 years".
    Apple isn't just a payment processor, not according to Apple anyway. Apple sells the apps to users, just as an agent rather than as a principal. If it was just a payment processor, the arguments made before the Supreme Court (in Apple v Pepper) and in the lower courts would have been much different. Apple isn't taking 30% just to process payments.

    Of course the developers earned the money they are being given, no one that I've seen has indicated otherwise. But Apple doesn't just process payments made to those developers by users. The payments are made to Apple. It collects the proceeds from sales. It then keeps its share and remits to developers their shares.
  • Reply 15 of 16
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member

    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; More
      financial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 2. 
      LITERARY
      a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;More
      informaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.
    The headline says ‘dole out,’ not ‘the dole’. The dole means something very different than dole out.

    That second definition of dole (the one defining it as a verb, as it is used here) is consistent with the usage here: distribute shares of something; synonym - disburse.

    Not every definition of a word has to be consistent with a given usage in order for that usage to be proper.

    Also:

    dole out: To distribute something, either physically or verbally.

    dole out: to give out (something) to appropriate individuals

    While not every definition has to be considered, they could simply say “Apple has paid app developers 120 billion dollars
    over the past 11 years”. Clear and to the point without the negative and incorrect connotations that come with the word.
    While not every definition has to be considered, they could simply say “Apple has paid app developers 120 billion dollars
    over the past 11 years”. Clear and to the point without the negative and incorrect connotations that come with the word.   The OP could have used different terminology, yes. That's almost always the case. And maybe some different terminology would have been slightly better. But the terminology used is fine.

    Even saying Apple paid them could be misunderstood as suggesting that Apple was paying them for products or services provided to Apple rather than giving to them the money which they are owed from the sales of their products. We could say Apple remits a portion of sales proceeds to them or that it pays them. But we could also say, when referring to a total amount which has been paid to developers collectively, that it doled out that amount to them.

    I don't see a negative connotation with the use of that term. 'Dole out' is a much different idiom(?) than 'the dole' is. The latter, yes, it has negative connotations. But I've used dole out and heard others use dole out, and never meant a negative connotation or considered a negative connotation as having been intended. It just, to me, means distributing something as is appropriate. The context determines what is appropriate - e.g., in equal amounts, or as needed, or as earned.
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    jcs2305jcs2305 Posts: 1,337member
    bulk001 said:
    carnegie said:
    bulk001 said:
    Apple didn’t “dole out” anything. It paid developers for sales they generated via their platform. 
    What's wrong with the term dole out being used here? I think it's at least as appropriate as saying Apple paid developers.

    Apple is distributing to developers their shares of the proceeds from the sales of (or other transactions relating to) their apps. Apple acts as the agent for those sales. It collects the payments, keeps its own shares, and then distributes the remaining proceeds to the developers. Dole out means something like distribute. That terminology seems fine to me.
    dole1

    Dictionary result for dole

    noun
    noun: dole; noun: the dole
    1. 1. 
      INFORMAL•BRITISH
      benefit paid by the government to the unemployed.
      "she is drawing on the dole"
      synonyms:unemployment benefit, state benefit, government benefit, benefit, benefit payments, social security, social security payments, public assistance allowance, allowance, welfare, insurance money, grant; Morefinancial assistance;
      the buroo, the broo
      "he was out of work and on the dole"
      • DATED
        a charitable gift of food, clothes, or money.
        plural noun: doles
    2. 
    LITERARY
    a person's lot or destiny.
    verb
    verb: dole; 3rd person present: doles; past tense: doled; past participle: doled; gerund or present participle: doling
    1. 1. 
      distribute shares of something.
      "the scanty portions of food doled out tothem"
      synonyms:deal out, share out, mete out, divide up, allocate, allot, apportion, assign, distribute, dispense, hand out, give out, pass out, pass round, issue, disburse;Moreinformaldish out, dish up, divvy up
      "Dad began to dole out the porridge"
    Phrases
    on the dole — registered as unemployed and receiving benefit from the government.
    Origin

    Old English dāl ‘division, portion, or share’, of Germanic origin; related to deal1. The sense ‘distribution of charitable gifts’ dates from Middle English; the sense ‘unemployment benefit’ dates from the early 20th century.

    dole out

    verb

    Definition of dole out

    transitive verb

    1 : to give or deliver in small portions

    At least give the correct definition .. my goodness.
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