Here are the best ways to get radio broadcasts to play on your HomePod or iPhone

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in General Discussion edited October 2020
Tips: It's easy to use AirPlay with a radio station's stream, but with a few steps, and an app or two, you can turn Apple's HomePod in conjunction with your iPhone or iPad into a fantastic, and flexible radio player.

That Sony World Radio used to go with us everywhere. Now you should've seen how much we had to clean it up.
That Sony World Radio used to go with us everywhere. Now you should've seen how much we had to clean it up.


It's a very long time since you used to sit in front of a radio set, twiddling the dial and trying to get far-off stations. Now that radio set is gone, you have instant high-quality access to just about every station in existence around the world -- and you don't listen.

You have that HomePod and, if you've also got an Apple Music subscription, you can call up any song that comes to mind. Yet you can't get your favorite local radio station on it.

Apple Music does come with an immense number of what it calls radio stations. However, with the exception of Beats 1, these are chiefly just curated playlists in different genres. Good luck getting the local news on WNYC or hearing about Brexit from the inside with the UK's BBC Radio 4.

We need a way to join up the incredible availability of radio stations with the utterly great sound quality of HomePod. Amazon's Echo does it with Skills, you can ask Alexa to play many different radio stations. Apple's HomePod does not.

However, you can make HomePod do it. You can ask Siri to play you, for instance, KLAX FM and be listening to Mexican music interspersed with Los Angeles news. When the New York Philharmonic regularly performs for the British classical station BBC Radio 3, you can tune in.

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The simplest, if least satisfying way to hear radio on your HomePod, is to send it there. Find the station on the web on your iPhone and then route the audio to your HomePod.

Once you've got the station playing, swipe down to get Control Center. Tap on the small icon at top right of the Music tab. That brings up a list of all the devices your phone can play audio on, and it will include your HomePod.

Tap on that and, after some moments, the station will cease playing on your iPhone and instead be on your HomePod.

You can of course stream any audio from your iPhone to your HomePod.
You can of course stream any audio from your iPhone to your HomePod. In this example, the HomePod is named "WG Office."


It works and it works fine, but it's the modern-day equivalent of nudging that radio dial the smallest amount in order to get a stronger signal. You have to find the station's website, which is usually easy, but then also find the page where it streams the audio. That's oddly harder, sometimes.

And most recently, some radio station websites make you schlep through an image Captcha before they'll let you reach the streaming feed. As if radio stations aren't shedding listeners anyway, sometimes you don't even get the Captcha, you just get denied access.

Radio apps

Instead of tying up a Safari page with the streaming radio station -- and having it interrupted whenever you then go to another site with an autoplay ad -- you can get a radio app.

There are many of these, but TuneIn Pro is good. Its pricing is confusing -- Pro costs $9.99 while there's a free version and both offer half a dozen different subscription options you can buy to get more. However, it's a very long-standing app that works well.

Stream audio from the TuneIn Pro radio app to HomePod
Stream audio from the TuneIn Pro radio app to HomePod


You can search for a radio station through it and if it's streaming on the web, you'll get it. No Captcha, no taking up a page in Safari.

What's more, TuneIn Pro comes with a Siri Shortcut. You first need to download Apple's free Siri Shortcuts app, but then you can use it to command HomePod to play radio stations.

You can create a shortcut so that you need only say "Hey, Siri, play the radio," or any other phrase you like, and it will start TuneIn Pro.

TuneIn Pro lets you create a Siri Shortcut to play whatever station you last listened to
TuneIn Pro lets you create a Siri Shortcut to play whatever station you last listened to


That's superb, but it's also limited. TuneIn Pro offers exactly one Siri Shortcut and it's actually Last Played. You can call out to your HomePod and it can then launch TuneIn Pro. It automatically starts playing, too, so there's no reaching for the app just to press the Play button.

However, what it plays is whatever you were last listening to. So if you're a fan of just one station, this is usually great. Siri on HomePod occasionally flakes out and says you'll have to continue this on your iPhone, but most of the time, it works.

When it's working, this does turn your HomePod into a radio. However, it's really more of a bonus on top of what TuneIn Pro is meant to do. Get TuneIn Pro because you like it or because you want to subscribe to get extra sports radio coverage.

Application solution

The first place for radio aficionados in the U.S. to turn is generally iHeartRadio. It's usable, and free, but doesn't take advantage of a handy iOS feature.

For maximum use of radio on your HomePod with more technologies to make things easier for you, buy Receiver Radio. It costs $3.99 and is simply a radio station player -- but it comes with unlimited Siri Shortcuts.

That's perfect for this. Find any station in Receiver Radio, play it, and then it's available to you as a Shortcut.

Open Siri Shortcuts, tap the plus sign to create a new one, and then search for the word Receiver. The last four stations you searched for will be presented to you as Siri Suggestions.

Tap on one, and you're taken into a new Shortcut which is all set up to play that station. Just tap the settings-like icon under the word Done at top right, and you can name the shortcut -- and record a voice command.

Receiver Radio makes it easy to create any number of Siri Shortcuts to play radio stations
Receiver Radio makes it easy to create any number of Siri Shortcuts to play radio stations


That command can be anything you like, but if you make it something like "Play WNYC" then you're creating a natural phrase. From then on, you could just call out "Hey, Siri, play WNYC" and it will work.

Problems

We've had no problems at all with Receiver. We have with HomePod, though. While the Siri Shortcuts you create to run Receiver work on HomePod and iPhone, sometimes Siri has had difficulty. Just occasionally, you get a long delay and then "Sorry, there was a problem with the app."

Naturally, we assumed the app was Receiver, but it never was. Instead, the app having problems was Siri Shortcuts. We'd go into that on our iPhone to see what was happening and it wouldn't load any Shortcuts. After restarting the iPhone, Shortcuts worked -- and so all of our radio stations did too.

You will also have to experiment with your voice commands. "Hey, Siri, play BBC Radio 2" keeps persuading Siri to instead play Apple Music's Radio 2 playlist.

It's great that there are all these playlists on Apple Music, but if you hanker for the days of having a real radio in your office, now you can have that back.



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  • Reply 1 of 32
    matrix077matrix077 Posts: 868member
    What is the radio app Apple demoed for Siri Shortcut on WWDC stage?
  • Reply 2 of 32
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Good to know thanks for the article but this all seems overly complicated. Since I discovered I can just say to my HomePods "Hey Siri play radio station NPR'  and hear the actual broadcast, not just the news I've been very happy ... and this is how it should be one would think, as in 'Hey Siri play radio station iHeart' etc..

    I have to wonder if there are more 'radio stations' available just as NPR is.  If not why not?  If I say 'Hey Siri play radio station (many, many guesses)' she replies she 'can not make an app for that'.  So I am guessing the issue is to do with ready-made podcasts that exist for NPR that seamlessly kick in when summoned and nothing else I've found has these.  Any ideas on this?
    edited April 2019
  • Reply 3 of 32
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,293member
    This is great William.  I have been thinking about getting radio and vinyl on the HomePod. My early forays into Siri ShortCuts have been buggy and frustrating as well.  My difficulties with radio have led to an embrace of PodCasts which are often great but I would love to listen to old school radio as well.

    I also wish Apple would have a setting to tune the HomePod to news or talk to strip out the bass and improve comprehension.
  • Reply 4 of 32
    dcgoodcgoo Posts: 280member
    William, your article made me realize how long it has been since I actually turned on a real radio and received ANY local broadcast. Further, I drive a Tesla which includes Internet access, with Slacker and TuneIn clients built-in.  I NEVER even use the FM broadcast radio in the car (Tesla no longer offers an AM radio on board).  I use Apple Music at home.  I am shocked to admit that it has been years since I even tried.  I even spent part of my career as a broadcast engineer.  Whoa, that is actually a little scary! 
  • Reply 5 of 32
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    dcgoo said:
    William, your article made me realize how long it has been since I actually turned on a real radio and received ANY local broadcast. Further, I drive a Tesla which includes Internet access, with Slacker and TuneIn clients built-in.  I NEVER even use the FM broadcast radio in the car (Tesla no longer offers an AM radio on board).  I use Apple Music at home.  I am shocked to admit that it has been years since I even tried.  I even spent part of my career as a broadcast engineer.  Whoa, that is actually a little scary! 
    I hear you, I am in a similar place.  I have not seen a local TV commercial in years and one of my companies made them back around the turn of the century ... OMG did I just say that?
  • Reply 6 of 32
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    badmonk said:
    This is great William.  I have been thinking about getting radio and vinyl on the HomePod. My early forays into Siri ShortCuts have been buggy and frustrating as well.  My difficulties with radio have led to an embrace of PodCasts which are often great but I would love to listen to old school radio as well.

    I also wish Apple would have a setting to tune the HomePod to news or talk to strip out the bass and improve comprehension.
    I could not agree more.  The need for a voice-controlled equalizer is massive IMHO.  My hearing isn't what it used to be and a pair of HomePods is by far the best sounding audio system we have for our TV (compared to our pre-existing surround sound system or the TV's built-in amp/speakers).  Yet I crave more control for different types of sound such as you suggest speech only.  Plus greater volume at times.  It would seem a no brainer to simply have the same EQ software on board HomePods that already exists in iTunes and add the ability to voice activate presets.  I'd add one more plea from someone that is hard of hearing, those program makers that insist on adding background music to what would otherwise be mostly a spoken word broadcast, add it to a channel that can be controlled independently, even muted if required. They have no idea how impossible hearing speech over loud background music can be for many people.
    edited April 2019 gregoriusm
  • Reply 7 of 32
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,357member
    Thanks for this article. I can't wait to set this up.
  • Reply 8 of 32
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    MacPro said:
    Good to know thanks for the article but this all seems overly complicated. Since I discovered I can just say to my HomePods "Hey Siri play radio station NPR'  and hear the actual broadcast, not just the news I've been very happy ... and this is how it should be one would think, as in 'Hey Siri play radio station iHeart' etc..

    I have to wonder if there are more 'radio stations' available just as NPR is.  If not why not?  If I say 'Hey Siri play radio station (many, many guesses)' she replies she 'can not make an app for that'.  So I am guessing the issue is to do with ready-made podcasts that exist for NPR that seamlessly kick in when summoned and nothing else I've found has these.  Any ideas on this?
    NPR is a discrete content provider for Apple music, so is ESPN and a few others. 
  • Reply 9 of 32
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    MacPro said:
    Good to know thanks for the article but this all seems overly complicated. Since I discovered I can just say to my HomePods "Hey Siri play radio station NPR'  and hear the actual broadcast, not just the news I've been very happy ... and this is how it should be one would think, as in 'Hey Siri play radio station iHeart' etc..

    I have to wonder if there are more 'radio stations' available just as NPR is.  If not why not?  If I say 'Hey Siri play radio station (many, many guesses)' she replies she 'can not make an app for that'.  So I am guessing the issue is to do with ready-made podcasts that exist for NPR that seamlessly kick in when summoned and nothing else I've found has these.  Any ideas on this?
    NPR is a discrete content provider for Apple music, so is ESPN and a few others. 
    Thanks, I figured something special was going on. Who are the others? Do you know if Apple is attempting to get more such providers?
    edited April 2019
  • Reply 10 of 32
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    MacPro said:
    MacPro said:
    Good to know thanks for the article but this all seems overly complicated. Since I discovered I can just say to my HomePods "Hey Siri play radio station NPR'  and hear the actual broadcast, not just the news I've been very happy ... and this is how it should be one would think, as in 'Hey Siri play radio station iHeart' etc..

    I have to wonder if there are more 'radio stations' available just as NPR is.  If not why not?  If I say 'Hey Siri play radio station (many, many guesses)' she replies she 'can not make an app for that'.  So I am guessing the issue is to do with ready-made podcasts that exist for NPR that seamlessly kick in when summoned and nothing else I've found has these.  Any ideas on this?
    NPR is a discrete content provider for Apple music, so is ESPN and a few others. 
    Thanks, I figured something special was going on. Who are the others? Do you know if Apple is attempting to get more such providers?
    Afaik, it's CBS news radio, NPR, ESPN, NBC Sports Radio. Bloomberg radio, and PRI. All of them were added some time ago, and I assume that Apple is looking at other providers, but I have no way to be sure. The A8 in the HomePod is grossly under utilized for beam forming and whatnot, so who knows what the plan is, both server-side, and on-device. There's no real reason that there can't be (small) apps for the device made available at some point in the future, as it has 16GB of NAND, and 1GB of RAM very much like the iPhone 6.
    edited April 2019 racerhomie3
  • Reply 11 of 32
    AppleishAppleish Posts: 691member
    Third party audio tends to be out of sync on my stereo HomePod setup streamed from my iPhone XS. It gets worse as you stop/start audio. Audio from the built-in music app is rock solid. 

    I have very fast FiOS internet and 4 Eeros, so I don't believe it is my equipment. There are Reddit and other threads on this out there, so I know it's not just me.

    I wish Apple would give their audio framework to developers. I assume they don't.
  • Reply 12 of 32
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,198member
    MacPro said:
    MacPro said:
    Good to know thanks for the article but this all seems overly complicated. Since I discovered I can just say to my HomePods "Hey Siri play radio station NPR'  and hear the actual broadcast, not just the news I've been very happy ... and this is how it should be one would think, as in 'Hey Siri play radio station iHeart' etc..

    I have to wonder if there are more 'radio stations' available just as NPR is.  If not why not?  If I say 'Hey Siri play radio station (many, many guesses)' she replies she 'can not make an app for that'.  So I am guessing the issue is to do with ready-made podcasts that exist for NPR that seamlessly kick in when summoned and nothing else I've found has these.  Any ideas on this?
    NPR is a discrete content provider for Apple music, so is ESPN and a few others. 
    Thanks, I figured something special was going on. Who are the others? Do you know if Apple is attempting to get more such providers?
    Afaik, it's CBS news radio, NPR, ESPN, NBC Sports Radio. Bloomberg radio, and PRI. All of them were added some time ago[...]
    You're referring to sources of news summaries. CBS radio stations, such as KCBS in the SF Bay Area, are not available to stream on HomePod. They can be streamed on command on Echos, after adding the Radio.com skill. This is a major annoyance with the HomePod and the only reason I have Echos all over my house (with their inferior audio quality) and only one HomePod:  Echos can independently play just about any stream on command.
    edited April 2019
  • Reply 13 of 32
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,006member
    MacPro said:
    badmonk said:
    This is great William.  I have been thinking about getting radio and vinyl on the HomePod. My early forays into Siri ShortCuts have been buggy and frustrating as well.  My difficulties with radio have led to an embrace of PodCasts which are often great but I would love to listen to old school radio as well.

    I also wish Apple would have a setting to tune the HomePod to news or talk to strip out the bass and improve comprehension.
    I could not agree more.  The need for a voice-controlled equalizer is massive IMHO.  My hearing isn't what it used to be and a pair of HomePods is by far the best sounding audio system we have for our TV (compared to our pre-existing surround sound system or the TV's built-in amp/speakers).  Yet I crave more control for different types of sound such as you suggest speech only.  Plus greater volume at times.  It would seem a no brainer to simply have the same EQ software on board HomePods that already exists in iTunes and add the ability to voice activate presets.  I'd add one more plea from someone that is hard of hearing, those program makers that insist on adding background music to what would otherwise be mostly a spoken word broadcast, add it to a channel that can be controlled independently, even muted if required. They have no idea how impossible hearing speech over loud background music can be for many people.
    This is a thing that seems to keep coming up. HomePod isn’t just a speaker. It actively measures the acoustics of the room and adjusts itself to compensate for deficiencies and to take advantage of anything beneficial. That’s why they sound so great. 

    Adding user-controlled EQ on top of that would defeat the purpose of the device. User adjustments can only detract from the sound quality.

    In fact, it would probably lead to more than a few customers fiddling with the EQ until they’ve found the most suboptimal settings possible, and then returning it to the store because it doesn’t sound any better than a $20 off-brand Bluetooth speaker. If you think I’m wrong, next time you get into a rental car with a decent stereo, make note of the ridiculous EQ settings left by the last person. Inevitably the bass, or treble or everything is turned up to eleven, because people think ‘more is better.’ 

    Put another way: asking for EQ controls on HomePod is like ordering the special at a fine restaurant and then asking for a bottle of ketchup. 
  • Reply 14 of 32
    all this does for me when asked on HomePod's Siri to play my radio station is that Homepod's Siri gladly runs the shortcut on my iPhone and plays the radio there, instead of HomePod. how do I make the radio to actually play on HP?
  • Reply 15 of 32
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,357member
    AppleZulu said:
    Put another way: asking for EQ controls on HomePod is like ordering the special at a fine restaurant and then asking for a bottle of ketchup. 
    Put it another way: asking for EQ controls on the HomePod is like sending your Prime Rib dinner back because the chef cooked medium well, the way he thinks it should be served, instead of rare, the way I like it.

    Many audiophiles and audio snobs believe EQ level settings are an anathema to true, good sound, i.e. the way the conductor/producer wanted it. So instead they spend money on expensive amps, preamps, interconnects, speakers, speaker spikes, room treatments blah blah blah...

    For better or worse, users should have the ability to adjust audio to their own liking. Sure some people thing turn the base to 11 and the treble to 0 is 'good' sound. I'm not them and I should be able to adjust EQ for those situations were 1) the HomePod can't cope and/or 2) I just don't like the sound profile that Apple has chosen, They already had one firmware update that changed that profile.

    I'm not the only person who's complained of muddy mids and dull highs. I remember when Jobs introduced the iPod HiFi and said he tossed all his high-end stereo gear because the Hi-Fi sounded better. Huh? It had no highs. I think they  spec'd it at 16kHz, but it got soft before that. It was good for what it was, but it wasn't an objective equivalent or replacement for 'high-end' kit.

    The HomePod is pretty good for what it is, even if I think it's still underperforming for $300 (the new price). I'm not an audio snob, but the HomePod needs a little work in its spectral balance. EQ adjustments could help some, and I'd like to have them.

    Even the best dish needs seasoning, and not everybody's taste is the same. I go to a 'fine' restaurant and don't like the food, I can send it back, leave, and/or remove a Michelin star.

    But if I'm getting takeaway, I certainly can say how it needs to taste.
  • Reply 16 of 32
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,198member
    AppleZulu said:
    MacPro said:
    badmonk said:
    This is great William.  I have been thinking about getting radio and vinyl on the HomePod. My early forays into Siri ShortCuts have been buggy and frustrating as well.  My difficulties with radio have led to an embrace of PodCasts which are often great but I would love to listen to old school radio as well.

    I also wish Apple would have a setting to tune the HomePod to news or talk to strip out the bass and improve comprehension.
    I could not agree more.  The need for a voice-controlled equalizer is massive IMHO.  My hearing isn't what it used to be and a pair of HomePods is by far the best sounding audio system we have for our TV (compared to our pre-existing surround sound system or the TV's built-in amp/speakers).  Yet I crave more control for different types of sound such as you suggest speech only.  Plus greater volume at times.  It would seem a no brainer to simply have the same EQ software on board HomePods that already exists in iTunes and add the ability to voice activate presets.  I'd add one more plea from someone that is hard of hearing, those program makers that insist on adding background music to what would otherwise be mostly a spoken word broadcast, add it to a channel that can be controlled independently, even muted if required. They have no idea how impossible hearing speech over loud background music can be for many people.
    This is a thing that seems to keep coming up. HomePod isn’t just a speaker. It actively measures the acoustics of the room and adjusts itself to compensate for deficiencies and to take advantage of anything beneficial. That’s why they sound so great. 

    Adding user-controlled EQ on top of that would defeat the purpose of the device. User adjustments can only detract from the sound quality.

    In fact, it would probably lead to more than a few customers fiddling with the EQ until they’ve found the most suboptimal settings possible, and then returning it to the store because it doesn’t sound any better than a $20 off-brand Bluetooth speaker. If you think I’m wrong, next time you get into a rental car with a decent stereo, make note of the ridiculous EQ settings left by the last person. Inevitably the bass, or treble or everything is turned up to eleven, because people think ‘more is better.’ 

    Put another way: asking for EQ controls on HomePod is like ordering the special at a fine restaurant and then asking for a bottle of ketchup. 
    Sorry, but everyone's ears and everyone's needs are different. And Apple/HomePod doesn't have a lock on what's best. If I want to be able to understand the spoken word on NPR or other broadcasts without raising the sound level to an annoying degree, then give me EQ controls to enhance the highs (where my aging ears lack sensitivity) and let me reduce the bass to prevent low-frequency thumping and avoid annoying the neighbors. The presence of EQ controls should in no way prohibit the HomePod from adjusting its output according to room characteristics--EQ should just redefine what the source material should sound like.
    larrya
  • Reply 17 of 32
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,357member

    cpsro said:
    CBS radio stations, such as KCBS in the SF Bay Area, are not available to stream on HomePod. They can be streamed on command on Echos, after adding the Radio.com skill. This is a major annoyance with the HomePod and the only reason I have Echos all over my house (with their inferior audio quality) and only one HomePod:  Echos can independently play just about any stream on command.
    It's nice that my Dots can play my local stations, but I'm not inclined to connect them to better speakers (powered) for better volume and audio quality. I'm hoping that the OP can let me AirDrop KCBS and other local stations to the HomePod. I'd also like to be able to tell Siri to play a specific song or playlist from my Mac.

    I wish Apple would stream local radio stations to the HomePod but they very likely don't allow it as they're pushing Apple News and Apple Music. I expect that to change somewhere between not anytime soon and never.
  • Reply 18 of 32
    wandersowanderso Posts: 116member
    I realize it’s not the goal of a smart speaker, but I do wish that Apple had included an input jack on the speaker for “Just in case” situations where you want to have the great sound but connect to an analog audio device.  
  • Reply 19 of 32
    uhm - Use your Mac and not your phone to stream to the HomePod if you want an uninterrupted stream

  • Reply 20 of 32
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
    I Like TuneIn Radio. I use the Free version which has long and annoying adverts for the Pro Version. I wouldn't mind paying except for the fact there are only a couple of stations I regularly listen to.
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