Huawei under pressure, pushing down on Intel, ZombieLoad and more on the AppleInsider Podc...

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This week on the AppleInsider Podcast, William is back to talk about Zombieload, Zombieland, Huawei, Intel and 5G.


Huawei is facing some difficulties


AppleInsider editor Victor Marks and writer William Gallagher discuss:
  • Huawei's CFO is still in Canada, fighting extradition to the US, and now the US government has put a ban in place on the purchase of Huawei equipment. Other countries are being encouraged to follow. What's this mean for 5G?
  • The UK is not on board with a Huawei ban, and Vodafone is going to launch a 5G service shortly -- using Huawei gear behind the scenes.
  • Meanwhile, Apple is buying 5G modems from Qualcomm -- for now. It's expected that Apple is working to make its own equivalent, but that's not expected to reach iPhones before 2025. Victor has the reasons for the delay.
  • ZombieLoad. William keeps calling it Zombieland, like the movie he's never seen, which may indicate how seriously he treats this particular security vulnerability. Victor is more concerned and explains the effects of fully mitigating it, plus the whole concept of threat modeling.
  • Speaking of vulnerabilities, WhatsApp had its own, and Bloomberg this was reason to go a bit nuclear on the entire concept of end-to-end encryption. Victor wants to talk about the difference between an error in implementation, and the value of encryption. William wants Bloomberg to put up or shut up.
  • And for fun, we talk a bit about electric skateboards that work with iPhones. Evolve just launched a new iPhone-connected board, and we talk about the point of these things -- and the price.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 5
    not_antonnot_anton Posts: 36member
    5G is much bigger, why are you only talking about phones? Self-driving cars will rely on 5G for communication when they finally come out. With Huawei equipment installed, China can accuse US of "illegally prosecuting our top CEO" and pull the plug on all of the cellular infrastructure - turning your car, your phone, and God knows what else into pumpkin. Giving chinese a kill switch to the whole country is so awful idea that I even support Trump in forbidding it.
    edited May 2019
  • Reply 2 of 5
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,311member
    not_anton said:
    5G is much bigger, why are you only talking about phones? Self-driving cars will rely on 5G for communication when they finally come out. With Huawei equipment installed, China can accuse US of "illegally prosecuting our top CEO" and pull the plug on all of the cellular infrastructure - turning your car, your phone, and God knows what else into pumpkin. Giving chinese a kill switch to the whole country is so awful idea that I even support Trump in forbidding it.
    You just succinctly demonstrated the National Security interests in banning Huawei. 

    Thank you.
  • Reply 3 of 5
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    not_anton said:
    5G is much bigger, why are you only talking about phones? Self-driving cars will rely on 5G for communication when they finally come out. With Huawei equipment installed, China can accuse US of "illegally prosecuting our top CEO" and pull the plug on all of the cellular infrastructure - turning your car, your phone, and God knows what else into pumpkin. Giving chinese a kill switch to the whole country is so awful idea that I even support Trump in forbidding it.
    Are you talking sci-fi? How could this be implemented in the real world? 5G may allow self-driving car. But this is done through software not hardware. Where is the software running? The software is either installed on the car or a server. Where is the server? Is the server in China or US? If the server is in US, tell me how China can control the US server? If China can do this then it is a hack not legitimate software. So are you saying with 5G we are helpless to hacks? 
  • Reply 4 of 5
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,624member
    tzeshan said:
    not_anton said:
    5G is much bigger, why are you only talking about phones? Self-driving cars will rely on 5G for communication when they finally come out. With Huawei equipment installed, China can accuse US of "illegally prosecuting our top CEO" and pull the plug on all of the cellular infrastructure - turning your car, your phone, and God knows what else into pumpkin. Giving chinese a kill switch to the whole country is so awful idea that I even support Trump in forbidding it.
    Are you talking sci-fi? How could this be implemented in the real world? 5G may allow self-driving car. But this is done through software not hardware. Where is the software running? The software is either installed on the car or a server. Where is the server? Is the server in China or US? If the server is in US, tell me how China can control the US server? If China can do this then it is a hack not legitimate software. So are you saying with 5G we are helpless to hacks? 
    Not to mention that any 'Western' built 5G infrastructure could receive the exact same accusations from anyone on the other side.

    It's all pretty absurd but there you have it. 

    Let's not even get into the debate of an 'attack' from the inside. Woo-hoo.... Boo!!!!


  • Reply 5 of 5
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    avon b7 said:
    tzeshan said:
    not_anton said:
    5G is much bigger, why are you only talking about phones? Self-driving cars will rely on 5G for communication when they finally come out. With Huawei equipment installed, China can accuse US of "illegally prosecuting our top CEO" and pull the plug on all of the cellular infrastructure - turning your car, your phone, and God knows what else into pumpkin. Giving chinese a kill switch to the whole country is so awful idea that I even support Trump in forbidding it.
    Are you talking sci-fi? How could this be implemented in the real world? 5G may allow self-driving car. But this is done through software not hardware. Where is the software running? The software is either installed on the car or a server. Where is the server? Is the server in China or US? If the server is in US, tell me how China can control the US server? If China can do this then it is a hack not legitimate software. So are you saying with 5G we are helpless to hacks? 
    Not to mention that any 'Western' built 5G infrastructure could receive the exact same accusations from anyone on the other side.

    It's all pretty absurd but there you have it. 

    Let's not even get into the debate of an 'attack' from the inside. Woo-hoo.... Boo!!!!


    Ninety-nine percent people are computer idiots. They have no knowledge of what is software and hardware. Yet they use imagination to think. 
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