In my mind, this is exactly it, you are 100% correct. I hope we continue to invest heavily in fusion, who knows what we will find.
But the the sad truth is, until we can plateau and maybe even decline our world population, we are chasing a moving target we will never meet. Same is true for world hunger. Technology and advanced methods are the only reasons we’ve made it this far.
Unlike some of the willfully blind posters here, you seem reasonable. So... I suggest you look into the actual numbers for solar and wind. (I was a wind skeptic until I did so, myself.) In fact, we could easily support 100% of the world's energy demand with solar and wind, far into the future. The difficulties are primarily in distribution and energy storage density. Neither of those are easily solved problems, but we're making incremental gains all the time. If, as when I was a child, we were primarily concerned with running out of nonrenewables, we'd be in very good shape. The tech curve for renewables (and, yes, fusion) is good.
The problem is that that's no longer our biggest concern, and we can't afford to take all that carbon out of the ground. The curves there don't look so good, which is why we need major investment in renewables and storage technology. Population decline could solve this problem, maybe, but if you think people don't like it when you take away their gas-guzzling cars, wait until you try to take away their right to have babies. So that's a non-starter.
There are real solutions. And they're not business-killers or life-quality-destroyers, whatever nonsense some reactionaries may spread. They might kill *some* businesses, but that happens all the time anyways. New ones replace them. And really, I wouldn't shed a tear for Exxon, though realistically, it's not going to suffer in the long run. When they can no longer drag their heels, they'll invest in whatever is replacing carbon.
I will refrain from calling it click-bait, but the article headline is similar yet quite different from what actually was said, which is:
"In some important ways, my generation has failed you"
If he had in fact said "my generation has failed you" and only that, it would be tantamount to saying Steve Jobs and all of Apple have failed the younger generation, seeing it was the generation of Steve Jobs that contributed in a major way to changing the tech world as we know it, which has indeed changed the world and put that little dent in the universe.
While things like "we've failed you" preach well, it does gloss over the successes. Younger people love to be fed things like "you can do it better than we did," when in fact it's easier said than done. Older people were once younger people with vision and drive. The sheer complexity of life brings about the reality we have today. It's nice to dream but very, very hard to implement those dreams. I'm glad Apple has traditionally done "the impossible" and hope they can start to Think Different once again. I think they really can do that without Steve Jobs, but they will need to they way outside the box like he did. Tim Cook could use a taste of his own medicinal advice.
He's talking about anthropogenic climate change, which gets harder and more expensive to deal-with the longer we ignore it. The economic costs have already been enormous (paid for by us all), and the US military considers this a major risk factor destabilizing the world.
The economic costs have only been enormous because people and organizations have exploited the issue for power, profit, politics and redistribution on a global scale. The problem itself is moderate at worst and not fully understood relative to long term climate history and factors which contribute to change. The solutions proposed this far are grotesque, ineffective, unfair, and would have serious negative consequences for humans.
99.9% of the scientists who have studied this area and published research on it disagree with you. The only debate is in the popular press, promoted by vested interests. You have to believe everything is a conspiracy to ignore the science. It isn't.
He's talking about anthropogenic climate change, which gets harder and more expensive to deal-with the longer we ignore it. The economic costs have already been enormous (paid for by us all), and the US military considers this a major risk factor destabilizing the world.
The economic costs have only been enormous because people and organizations have exploited the issue for power, profit, politics and redistribution on a global scale. The problem itself is moderate at worst and not fully understood relative to long term climate history and factors which contribute to change. The solutions proposed this far are grotesque, ineffective, unfair, and would have serious negative consequences for humans.
99.9% of the scientists who have studied this area and published research on it disagree with you. The only debate is in the popular press, promoted by vested interests. You have to believe everything is a conspiracy to ignore the science. It isn't.
Yeah, that stat isn’t true. It simply isn’t. And there are “vested interests” on both sides. That’s what the alarmists refuse to acknowledge. Once in a while, someone lets the cat out of the bag and admits climate change “solutions” are about redistribution...both of wealth and geopolitical power. I’m not saying it’s a hoax. The data suggest we are having at least some impact. But that impact has been consistently overestimated and laughably so, for at least 30 years.
Cook is definitely in a position to do something about global warming. He should. It’s trillions of dollars in revenue that Apple can make over decades. He is not moving fast enough. Even as a company that only sells devices, they can do a lot of things about it.
Become an EV maker, and do it faster. Every vehicle class has to be electrified. Scooters are the vast majority of vehicles on roadways in many of the most populous places in the world, which also typically have the worst air pollution. Sell EV scooters and EV mini trucks. Sell EV 4 wheel vehicles in the western word (cars, pickups, SUVs, etc). Start now. They have been wasting time. Then, develop the power systems to charge them. Sell residential solar, residential storage.
They can develop products for the home such as heat pumps which can be used to both cool and heat homes, all powered by electricity. Rooftop solar + residential battery + heat pump will be a popular product in the future as houses will need to install A/C as the climate gets hotter.
They can use their riches to lobby for new electrified railway systems that can replace air travel. High speed rail in the USA is long long overdue. They can use their riches to lobby grid scale renewable power, including offshore wind, solar thermal, and other systems that need their costs driven down through mass production. They can also contract out the shipping of their products such that it is carbon neutral. Go develop a ship that uses solar to convert water to hydrogen to power their drives.
Water is going to be a huge deal in the future. They can develop water purifier products, water collection products, water recycling products, and water storage products. All these products can be sold everywhere in the world. They can use their riches to lobby for farms to become closed circuit in their water use so that their fertilizer runoff isn’t affecting people downstream. They can use their riches to lobby for closed circuit water use in cities, homes, anywhere it is needed.
For us, we can do something about it. Don’t just talk about it:
1. Buy a 100% renewable power plan. This is dead simple. Just do it. 2. Make your house or residence more efficient and stop using gas based appliances. It’s a virtuous win if you replace incandescent lighting with LED lighting. A 100W lighting bulb provides a lot of light, but it also output a lot heat. That heat has to be removed from the room and dumped outside, thusly increasing your power bill. An LED light of equivalent lumens provides the same amount of light, but it is outputting 10x to 20x less heat that doesn’t have to be removed from the room, and thereby lower power bills. This is true of virtually every product in the house. Then, you can add solar screens to windows, add weather stripping, add insulation. This all helps can drive a yearly power bill a lot. 3. Buy an EV or a more efficient vehicle or continue using the existing car if it is driveable. 4. Vote. Not just the big elections. Vote in every local election. Find the time.
Regarding climate change and one’s carbon footprint. Does Tim Cook drive an electric vehicle? Does Time Cook use public transportation to get to work? When he flies to China does Tim Cook travel coach on a common carrier or does he fly in the Apple corporate jet? Or is he the same kind of hypocrite that Al Gore is with his three mansions and private jets? You see, this is the kind of thing we peasants wonder about. When the BIG changes the climate advocates want are implemented will the elites still travel in luxury or will they be squeezed into mass transit cigar tubes like the rest of us will be? When we peasants are reduced to rationed heating and cooling will theTim Cooks of the world still be nice and cool in their mansions? Don’t squawk about renewable clean energy when there’s absolutely no hope of that energy source ever catching up with the exponential growth of energy demands. Nuclear Fusion is still a pipe dream that’s been promised for the last sixty years at least with no commercial reactor in sight.
I think that’s sort of who/what he was referring to.
Looking around, I do not see -- regardless of your short-sighted political persuasions -- how any rational person could disagree with Cook's assertion. Blame whomever you like, but the world and planet is inarguably in worse shape than it was under the last generation of management.
Looking around, I do not see -- regardless of your short-sighted political persuasions -- how any rational person could disagree with Cook's assertion. Blame whomever you like, but the world and planet is inarguably in worse shape than it was under the last generation of management.
In some ways. It is just about the most moral and just time in the world right now. The world is the most literate, the most fair, the most well fed it has ever been. For 30 years, there was a real potential of worldwide nuclear war, by mere accident. That possibly hasn’t gone away just yet, but we hopefully aren’t at a point where missile launch detection systems aren’t confusing natural phenomena for a nuclear missile launch anymore.
The failure is our children will be dealing with some rather severe hardships, a very likely worldwide population decline, and there is potential for the extinction of humanity with global warming. That’s a huge failure that there is even a slim chance of that, all by our own doing.
Looking around, I do not see -- regardless of your short-sighted political persuasions -- how any rational person could disagree with Cook's assertion. Blame whomever you like, but the world and planet is inarguably in worse shape than it was under the last generation of management.
Yeah, and it’s gonna stay that way because people are addicted to energy. People are obsessed with the consumption of energy. Energy demands are increasing exponentially across the globe, especially in China where coal fired plants are being brought online daily. Millions of acres of solar panels and windmill farms can’t keep up with that demand. Electric vehicles have their own carbon problems during manufacture. And how much environmental damage are Lithium mines causing? How much Lithium is there to go around?
He's talking about anthropogenic climate change, which gets harder and more expensive to deal-with the longer we ignore it. The economic costs have already been enormous (paid for by us all), and the US military considers this a major risk factor destabilizing the world.
The economic costs have only been enormous because people and organizations have exploited the issue for power, profit, politics and redistribution on a global scale. The problem itself is moderate at worst and not fully understood relative to long term climate history and factors which contribute to change. The solutions proposed this far are grotesque, ineffective, unfair, and would have serious negative consequences for humans.
99.9% of the scientists who have studied this area and published research on it disagree with you. The only debate is in the popular press, promoted by vested interests. You have to believe everything is a conspiracy to ignore the science. It isn't.
Yeah, that stat isn’t true. It simply isn’t. And there are “vested interests” on both sides. That’s what the alarmists refuse to acknowledge. Once in a while, someone lets the cat out of the bag and admits climate change “solutions” are about redistribution...both of wealth and geopolitical power. I’m not saying it’s a hoax. The data suggest we are having at least some impact. But that impact has been consistently overestimated and laughably so, for at least 30 years.
I agree, some people on both sides obviously feel climate change solutions will cause redistribution. That fact, though, has no bearing on what's true. The way science works, a scientist can get very famous and advance their career tremendously by providing credible evidence that climate change impact has been overestimated---for example, that we have more time than we thought. To have such strong consensus in the face of that incentive means something. Reputable studies of consensus among climate scientists all put the number in the high 90's percent. The most cited study is from 2013 (John Cook et al), and puts consensus at 97% at that time. Studies that include non climate scientists and non scientists and make ridiculous assumptions (such as Tol 2016) aren't helpful. It's worth noting, also, that this is not a future problem. We've already had one degree C of average world temperature increase, and the impacts have been much worse than predicted, not better.
I wouldn't downplay my generation. We all do the best with what we have. This generation has had it pretty easy so they aren't as rugged and filled with grit like someone who rode bikes without a helmet and relished debates in college and out in the wild. Speeches seem like they are pretty great when the speaker just says, "follow your dreams, stay curious." No apology tour needed. Bleh.
Cook is definitely in a position to do something about global warming. He should. It’s trillions of dollars in revenue that Apple can make over decades. He is not moving fast enough. Even as a company that only sells devices, they can do a lot of things about it.
Become an EV maker, and do it faster. Every vehicle class has to be electrified. Scooters are the vast majority of vehicles on roadways in many of the most populous places in the world, which also typically have the worst air pollution. Sell EV scooters and EV mini trucks. Sell EV 4 wheel vehicles in the western word (cars, pickups, SUVs, etc). Start now. They have been wasting time. Then, develop the power systems to charge them. Sell residential solar, residential storage.
They can develop products for the home such as heat pumps which can be used to both cool and heat homes, all powered by electricity. Rooftop solar + residential battery + heat pump will be a popular product in the future as houses will need to install A/C as the climate gets hotter.
They can use their riches to lobby for new electrified railway systems that can replace air travel. High speed rail in the USA is long long overdue. They can use their riches to lobby grid scale renewable power, including offshore wind, solar thermal, and other systems that need their costs driven down through mass production. They can also contract out the shipping of their products such that it is carbon neutral. Go develop a ship that uses solar to convert water to hydrogen to power their drives.
Water is going to be a huge deal in the future. They can develop water purifier products, water collection products, water recycling products, and water storage products. All these products can be sold everywhere in the world. They can use their riches to lobby for farms to become closed circuit in their water use so that their fertilizer runoff isn’t affecting people downstream. They can use their riches to lobby for closed circuit water use in cities, homes, anywhere it is needed.
For us, we can do something about it. Don’t just talk about it:
1. Buy a 100% renewable power plan. This is dead simple. Just do it. 2. Make your house or residence more efficient and stop using gas based appliances. It’s a virtuous win if you replace incandescent lighting with LED lighting. A 100W lighting bulb provides a lot of light, but it also output a lot heat. That heat has to be removed from the room and dumped outside, thusly increasing your power bill. An LED light of equivalent lumens provides the same amount of light, but it is outputting 10x to 20x less heat that doesn’t have to be removed from the room, and thereby lower power bills. This is true of virtually every product in the house. Then, you can add solar screens to windows, add weather stripping, add insulation. This all helps can drive a yearly power bill a lot. 3. Buy an EV or a more efficient vehicle or continue using the existing car if it is driveable. 4. Vote. Not just the big elections. Vote in every local election. Find the time.
I think what you're suggesting is something Apple isn't doing and not because it doesn't want to, but because Apple isn't in that business. Its already doing more than most companies. Apple can't do it alone. What other company makes electronics from its recycled materials and/or old products? What other company has a headquarters that runs off 100% renewable energy? What other company has most of its retail stores that run off renewable energy? What other company is working with its part suppliers to be environmentally friendly and also work toward running their businesses off renewable energy?
Apple isn't going to make a heat pump or be an EV maker. You just don't do this shit over night and honestly, they shouldn't have to. Like I said, Apple can't do this alone. Why can't the people who make heat pumps and/or water pumps do what you suggest? Why does Apple have to do this when they're not familiar with how to make a heat pump, or an EV manufacturer?
Apple's riches isn't going to change the world like you think. Maybe it sounds good on paper, but lobbying with billions isn't going to change the world overnight. Its actually a damn shame Apple would have to spend billions to lobby for this shit. We should just be doing it!
macxpress said: I think what you're suggesting is something Apple isn't doing and not because it doesn't want to, but because Apple isn't in that business. Its already doing more than most companies. Apple can't do it alone. What other company makes electronics from its recycled materials and/or old products? What other company has a headquarters that runs off 100% renewable energy? What other company has most of its retail stores that run off renewable energy? What other company is working with its part suppliers to be environmentally friendly and also work toward running their businesses off renewable energy?
Apple isn't going to make a heat pump or be an EV maker. You just don't do this shit over night and honestly, they shouldn't have to. Like I said, Apple can't do this alone. Why can't the people who make heat pumps and/or water pumps do what you suggest? Why does Apple have to do this when they're not familiar with how to make a heat pump, or an EV manufacturer?
Apple's riches isn't going to change the world like you think. Maybe it sounds good on paper, but lobbying with billions isn't going to change the world overnight. Its actually a damn shame Apple would have to spend billions to lobby for this shit. We should just be doing it!
You don’t change the world if you don’t start. Trillions of dollars in revenue are for the taking over the next few decades in getting the world to carbon neutral, and eventually carbon negative. This may be a pipe dream, but it’s nothing but a dream if you don’t start. Cook has to listen to his own credo. He wants products that make a difference. Their big push into services doesn’t really do that. The Watch, yes. AirPods, yes. They both have long feature roadmaps to implement. Products that reduce our carbon footprint, that make our lives cheaper, better, healthier are definitely it.
I have no doubt that Apple won’t be doing this alone if they broaden their portfolio of products. If there is a lot of money to be made, the fast followers will be nipping at Apple’s heels every step along the way, and if history is a guide, those fast followers will be undercutting Apple and will have the majority of unit sales.
Lobbying won’t change things overnight. Lobbying over decades? Yes.
If anything, it's many universities that have failed us today.
Many of them have turned into lunatic asylums, centered around anti-free speech movements, they promote segregation, censorship, not open to free thought and different ideas and some of them are basically anti-American.
They're not preparing students for the real world. They're making a bunch of whiny snowflakes who need safe spaces and when they finally get out and step into the real world, some of those snowflakes are going to find that the real world is not going to be so accommodating and welcoming to them and their mental problems.
Unless you’re talking about conservative religious “schools”, there’s zero evidence for these statements. From which conspiracy-theorist website did you pull this opinion?
That's the part that is the subject of debate; i.e., how much of the current climate change cycle, which are always occurring, is caused or changeable by man. We know so little that we can't answer that question yet.
Nope. We already know the answer and ended the debate. Real scientists did, anyway. Only American conservatives pretend “we can’t know!”
Evidence for man-made global warming hits 'gold standard': scientists
Evidence for man-made global warming has reached a “gold standard” level of certainty, adding pressure for cuts in greenhouse gases to limit rising temperatures, scientists said on Monday. [...]
“The narrative out there that scientists don’t know the cause of climate change is wrong,” he told Reuters. “We do.”
Mainstream scientists say the burning of fossil fuels is causing more floods, droughts, heat waves and rising sea levels.
A lot of people talk about Global Warming but down here in south Florida few seem to do anything about it despite the threat of rising seas. That includes my double-income no kids liberal friends. Right now it will take decades if not centuries for these changes to have an impact upon our community such that people believe their homes could be in danger.
AGW = man induced global warming. Now when will Tim learn that is also a crock?
And please, I'm sick being told it's 'settled science'.
It is the most pernicious despicable stuff where the real vested interests are the oh-so-clever dicks who will make a fortune out of the scam. e.g. the carbon credit traders.
Look up Biomass scam or the Drax power station on the web.
Look out the window everybody. There's the cause of climate change. Its called the sun!!!
Looking around, I do not see -- regardless of your short-sighted political persuasions -- how any rational person could disagree with Cook's assertion. Blame whomever you like, but the world and planet is inarguably in worse shape than it was under the last generation of management.
Yeah, and it’s gonna stay that way because people are addicted to energy. People are obsessed with the consumption of energy. Energy demands are increasing exponentially across the globe, especially in China where coal fired plants are being brought online daily. Millions of acres of solar panels and windmill farms can’t keep up with that demand. Electric vehicles have their own carbon problems during manufacture. And how much environmental damage are Lithium mines causing? How much Lithium is there to go around?
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"In some important ways, my generation has failed you"
If he had in fact said "my generation has failed you" and only that, it would be tantamount to saying Steve Jobs and all of Apple have failed the younger generation, seeing it was the generation of Steve Jobs that contributed in a major way to changing the tech world as we know it, which has indeed changed the world and put that little dent in the universe.
While things like "we've failed you" preach well, it does gloss over the successes. Younger people love to be fed things like "you can do it better than we did," when in fact it's easier said than done. Older people were once younger people with vision and drive. The sheer complexity of life brings about the reality we have today. It's nice to dream but very, very hard to implement those dreams. I'm glad Apple has traditionally done "the impossible" and hope they can start to Think Different once again. I think they really can do that without Steve Jobs, but they will need to they way outside the box like he did. Tim Cook could use a taste of his own medicinal advice.
Become an EV maker, and do it faster. Every vehicle class has to be electrified. Scooters are the vast majority of vehicles on roadways in many of the most populous places in the world, which also typically have the worst air pollution. Sell EV scooters and EV mini trucks. Sell EV 4 wheel vehicles in the western word (cars, pickups, SUVs, etc). Start now. They have been wasting time. Then, develop the power systems to charge them. Sell residential solar, residential storage.
They can develop products for the home such as heat pumps which can be used to both cool and heat homes, all powered by electricity. Rooftop solar + residential battery + heat pump will be a popular product in the future as houses will need to install A/C as the climate gets hotter.
They can use their riches to lobby for new electrified railway systems that can replace air travel. High speed rail in the USA is long long overdue. They can use their riches to lobby grid scale renewable power, including offshore wind, solar thermal, and other systems that need their costs driven down through mass production. They can also contract out the shipping of their products such that it is carbon neutral. Go develop a ship that uses solar to convert water to hydrogen to power their drives.
Water is going to be a huge deal in the future. They can develop water purifier products, water collection products, water recycling products, and water storage products. All these products can be sold everywhere in the world. They can use their riches to lobby for farms to become closed circuit in their water use so that their fertilizer runoff isn’t affecting people downstream. They can use their riches to lobby for closed circuit water use in cities, homes, anywhere it is needed.
For us, we can do something about it. Don’t just talk about it:
1. Buy a 100% renewable power plan. This is dead simple. Just do it.
2. Make your house or residence more efficient and stop using gas based appliances. It’s a virtuous win if you replace incandescent lighting with LED lighting. A 100W lighting bulb provides a lot of light, but it also output a lot heat. That heat has to be removed from the room and dumped outside, thusly increasing your power bill. An LED light of equivalent lumens provides the same amount of light, but it is outputting 10x to 20x less heat that doesn’t have to be removed from the room, and thereby lower power bills. This is true of virtually every product in the house. Then, you can add solar screens to windows, add weather stripping, add insulation. This all helps can drive a yearly power bill a lot.
3. Buy an EV or a more efficient vehicle or continue using the existing car if it is driveable.
4. Vote. Not just the big elections. Vote in every local election. Find the time.
The failure is our children will be dealing with some rather severe hardships, a very likely worldwide population decline, and there is potential for the extinction of humanity with global warming. That’s a huge failure that there is even a slim chance of that, all by our own doing.
Apple CEO Tim Cook to Tulane graduates: ‘Remake the world’
https://www.nola.com/education/2019/05/apple-ceo-tim-cook-to-tulane-graduates-remake-the-world.html...a less cynical take/headline.
Apple isn't going to make a heat pump or be an EV maker. You just don't do this shit over night and honestly, they shouldn't have to. Like I said, Apple can't do this alone. Why can't the people who make heat pumps and/or water pumps do what you suggest? Why does Apple have to do this when they're not familiar with how to make a heat pump, or an EV manufacturer?
Apple's riches isn't going to change the world like you think. Maybe it sounds good on paper, but lobbying with billions isn't going to change the world overnight. Its actually a damn shame Apple would have to spend billions to lobby for this shit. We should just be doing it!
I have no doubt that Apple won’t be doing this alone if they broaden their portfolio of products. If there is a lot of money to be made, the fast followers will be nipping at Apple’s heels every step along the way, and if history is a guide, those fast followers will be undercutting Apple and will have the majority of unit sales.
Lobbying won’t change things overnight. Lobbying over decades? Yes.
AGW = man induced global warming. Now when will Tim learn that is also a crock?
And please, I'm sick being told it's 'settled science'.
It is the most pernicious despicable stuff where the real vested interests are the oh-so-clever dicks who will make a fortune out of the scam. e.g. the carbon credit traders.
Look up Biomass scam or the Drax power station on the web.
Look out the window everybody. There's the cause of climate change. Its called the sun!!!
https://m.phys.org/news/2019-04-high-solid-state-sodium-ion-battery.html