If you’re a Fortune 100 company... it’s going to be great!
Quality tools are expensive. Do you need a tool this powerful? If so, great, here it is, you can do your job and produce value with it. If not, it's not for you, and that's fine. The iMac Pro, iMac, and Mini are great options for desktops.
Uhhhh... yah. They designed a Mac Pro for Pixar and maybe 5 other massive design houses. What about the other 98% of content creators? Where is the Mac for the small business that makes up 98% of the market? The freelancers who need a solid machine that they can upgrade over 7 years. iMac isn’t it.
This is looks like a fantastic machine - but it misses the mark for what the average pro user has been asking for.
Oops, you just confused your opinion for fact. If you disagree, please link to a definitive source that backs up your claim.
There are plenty of Mac options for small businesses. Such businesses likely do not need a MacPro. Per Craig, the majority of their pro users are...developers. The new iMac and iMac Pro have them covered for software development. Likewise for wedding photographers and the other small businesses in your mind. This....is a workstation. If you cannot afford, you very likely do no require it.
Love how amatuers complain about the costs of Mac Pro... it's for Professionals making lots of money... not for amatuers living on a few hundreds.
Not true. There are people who need workstations that are not rolling in money. People like scientists and engineers. The Pro market extends way beyond the media business.
This is another nice engineering exercise but leaves a gaping hole between the Mac mini and this. A version with something less than an 8 core Xeon CPU could be offered for substantially less.
Wow - this so Pro they might sell 100 of them. Cheese grater design is boring. After the criticism of the R2D2 Mac Pro for not being pro enough (when Apple didn't even offer upgrade options over 5 years!), they have gone to the other extreme and produced a machine that only a tiny proportion of Pro users will want, or be able to justify. Apple have lurched far too far to the other extreme. Same goes for the monitor: they should be providing a suite of monitors in different sizes for different users - not some ridiculously over-specced $6000 32 inch monitor with a an optional $1000 stand.
I’m not getting good vibes either. Two years from now they will cancel the Mac Pro for lack of demand.
Frankly im hoping that they turn the trashcan into a lower cost desktop solution as the concept isn’t bad for many pro users. Imagine the trash can with a single decent GPU card and the free location containing a carrier board for extra SSD storage. That would be perfect for my desktop needs.
Of course the usuals still don't like. And now they want the trash can back! lol...can't make this stuff up.
Looks amazing though I would like to see how the likely crippled $5999 version compares to similar PC workstations. I can't help thinking that the Apple Tax is back with a bang. The stuff looks like it's fantastically engineered (probably over the top for 90%). Anyone want to guess how much RAM the $5999 version will ship with? We're talking a base version that's DOUBLE the price of the current base. That's a big jump in anyone's book.
If you’re a Fortune 100 company... it’s going to be great!
Quality tools are expensive. Do you need a tool this powerful? If so, great, here it is, you can do your job and produce value with it. If not, it's not for you, and that's fine. The iMac Pro, iMac, and Mini are great options for desktops.
Actually this is the problem, the iMacs and Mini are terrible for many professional use cases. This new Mac Pro will have its users no doubt but frankly Apple screwed themselves here as I see sales absolutely sucking after the initial blitz to buy a Mac Pro. This unit will have the same problem previous Mac Pros had which is sales so bad Apple will consider discontinuing it. Frankly they could have done better.
Nope. They didn't begin work on this 7 years ago. They started a couple of years ago. If you're actually interested more than just enough to whine, here's the transcript you should have already read explaining what happened.
The industrial design looks fantastic! Steve would be proud.
But for ATI only and 1 gen processor design... it’s not going to make a lot of sense to the average pro at these price points.
I think it forces a lot of people to stay in iMacs.
Do I want one? Yes. Can I afford one? Yes. Will I buy one? No.
Apple would have to offer a 5 year warranty to convince me to get into one.
Love how amateurs complain about the costs of Mac Pro... it's for Professionals making lots of money... not for amateurs living on a few hundreds. iMac Pro is for prosumers. Mac Pro is for professionals. iMac is for consumers (but they can do all the things that pros do but at a much slower speed).
Love how amateurs complain about the costs of Mac Pro... it's for Professionals making lots of money... not for amateurs living on a few hundreds. iMac Pro is for prosumers. Mac Pro is for professionals. iMac is for consumers (but they can do all the things that pros do but at a much slower speed).
Sure the Mac Pro is for professionals. The mistake you make here is assuming that there is enough professionals out there to justify manufacture of this machine. Frankly this is worse than the old cheese grater and will suffer the same fate.
In case you are wondering that is sales so bad that Apple can’t justify the engineering expense to maintain it. Apple needed a machine that would sell multiple thousands per month not a few hundred per month.
Power demands are ridiculous. Fan demands are ridiculous. And with 3 huge fans, this will be noisy too (I look forward to seeing those specs - don't trust the comment about putting it under your desk, and then it is quiet). Most of the speed improvements seem to be coming from increasing the number of cores to 28 ... which is fine if your problem breaks down nicely into parallel chunks ... but many problems don't, and for those we just need simple raw power increase ... not shown in the examples. I do like the dual 10G Ethernet - that will be everywhere soon enough.
To all the people complaining that it’s “too pro” and “too expensive”. My 17” spec’d out PowerBook G4 cost over $5k in 2003. This is WAY MORE than that in both value and performance, even by current standards. Apple used to have a lot of computers this expensive, they just haven’t made one that commanded such a premium in a while. Pros WILL buy these and that’s who they’re for. If you don’t need this power, this isn’t for you and there are plenty of other macs in the lineup.
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There are plenty of Mac options for small businesses. Such businesses likely do not need a MacPro. Per Craig, the majority of their pro users are...developers. The new iMac and iMac Pro have them covered for software development. Likewise for wedding photographers and the other small businesses in your mind. This....is a workstation. If you cannot afford, you very likely do no require it.
Not for hobbyists and tinkerers, sorry.
There are people who need workstations that are not rolling in money. People like scientists and engineers.
The Pro market extends way beyond the media business.
This is another nice engineering exercise but leaves a gaping hole between the Mac mini and this. A version with something less than an 8 core Xeon CPU could be offered for substantially less.
We're talking a base version that's DOUBLE the price of the current base. That's a big jump in anyone's book.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-craig-federighi-and-john-ternus-on-the-state-of-apples-pro-macs/
Real professionals make a lot of money and they will pay premium to get things done.
Then when they talked about it more and more, I'm a huge fan of this design.
Mac Pros should ONLY BE TOWERS.
In case you are wondering that is sales so bad that Apple can’t justify the engineering expense to maintain it. Apple needed a machine that would sell multiple thousands per month not a few hundred per month.
Open on an iOS device to see in AR. It's bigger than I thought from watching the presentation.