The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
He’s hyper-critical of apple so any reasoned response is not to be expected.
I have an iPhone 6 that had a bulging battery. Because it was allegeable for the battery replacement for $29 in 2018, I was able to replace the battery and it works like new!
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
It is -- but since there is ZERO evidence that this battery was damaged why would you make such a claim? Nor is there any evdence for any of your other claims. Let's stick to reality.
I wasn't claiming anything, simply going through a list of likely possibilities given the circumstances which you promptly dismissed out of hand.
“Apple advised to Adata there could be a few factors that could cause overheating, such as the use of unauthorized charging cables and chargers”
How are consumers supposed to know if the cables or chargers are “unauthorized”? I’ve bought 1/2 a dozen chargers, and 20+ cables on Amazon in the last decade for my iPhone and IPad.
No one intentionally buys an “unauthorized” cable/charger...
Does Apple actively police what’s being sold? I assume they collect money to authorize accessories, part of that money should go to enforcement, otherwise no one is going to pay it.
AI could ask. If Apple doesn’t, their response is lawyer speak BS. If they do, that would be useful and relevant info...
No, no one intentionally buys an 'unauthorized' charger, but what they do is look and say "well, it's looks the same and it has a USB jack on one side and a 2 prong plug on the other, so it must be the same, even though it's only $1.99 at a gas station. As mentioned above, Apple has the MFI program which gives some indication of quality.
What people buy and plug into their phones is completely out of Apple's (or any other manufacturer's) control. The best they can do is ship a proper charger and cable with the device and advise them to stick to 'certified' components. Unfortunately, that frequently comes across as 'buy only [Apple/Samsung/LG] chargers and cables' which people interpret as the manufacturer simply trying to drum up accessory business. Regardless, if the device is damaged by a faulty charger, the fault lies with the charger manufacturer, not Apple.
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
Damaged? No. Old. That’s all. Abused how? Leaving the device plugged in all day? That’s not abuse.
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
He’s hyper-critical of apple so any reasoned response is not to be expected.
LOL... No, I didn't criticize Apple at all. But neither do I make irrational excuses for them. I was responding to the claim (and others) that the battery was defective because it was in an iPhone 6. That's beyond nonsense, it's stupid.
But because you're a China hater, you attack me because I call out Trump's irrational, harmful trade wars for the stupidity that they are. Go take your meds. You must have forgotten them.
I noticed a lot of kids (sometimes, even adults) love to charge while still using (e.g. playing PUBG while charging). Often, I notice the iPhones/iPads run rather hot (warmer than usual) when they do so. Is this not another potential higher risk factor that so many people are ignoring until some serious incident happens?
I haven't come across any advisories or instructions from Apple that suggest avoiding charging while using iPhones.
if you go to support.apple.com and scroll to the bottom. It is right above Gift Card scams. It says:
Beware of counterfeit parts
Some counterfeit and third party power adapters and
batteries may not be designed properly and could result in safety
issues. To ensure you receive a genuine Apple battery during a battery
replacement, we recommend visiting an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider. If you need a replacement adapter to charge your Apple device, we recommend getting an Apple power adapter.
Also non-genuine replacement displays may have
compromised visual quality and may fail to work correctly.
Apple-certified screen repairs are performed by trusted experts who use
genuine Apple parts.
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
It is -- but since there is ZERO evidence that this battery was damaged why would you make such a claim? Nor is there any evdence for any of your other claims. Let's stick to reality.
I wasn't claiming anything, simply going through a list of likely possibilities given the circumstances which you promptly dismissed out of hand.
Sorry, I didn't read it that way. Perhaps I should have read it a second time before jumping on it.
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
Damaged? No. Old. That’s all. Abused how? Leaving the device plugged in all day? That’s not abuse.
Okay. So I guess we shouldn’t think defectives could happen? Do you know what exactly is going on?
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
He’s hyper-critical of apple so any reasoned response is not to be expected.
LOL... No, I didn't criticize Apple at all. But neither do I make irrational excuses for them. I was responding to the claim (and others) that the battery was defective because it was in an iPhone 6. That's beyond nonsense, it's stupid.
But because you're a China hater, you attack me because I call out Trump's irrational, harmful trade wars for the stupidity that they are. Go take your meds. You must have forgotten them.
“Meds” don’t fix irrational behavior or beliefs.
That statement works better on the guy you’re replying to.
It's always best to wait for the facts -- which is what Apple is doing. And then, once it is determined, educate the public on how and why they should avoid that practice.
Well said, although I fear you didn't apply this when making your earlier comment about the proffered possible causes for a battery fire.
And you'd be hard-pressed to find a comments thread that doesn't contain a reasonable amount of idle speculation. As Rands says, in the absence of hard information, humans make up their own story - and it's always one where their worst fears come true.
Could Apple have designed a connector that wouldn't allow third party charging devices (via the Lightning port) to work, perhaps using some sort of digital signature sent from the cable/charger to the phone? If yes, why hasn't Apple done that? Is it possible Apple wanted third party charges to be available to consumers?
Especially with younger people I spot a lot of phones stored in hip pockets. Sit on a phone a few times and bad things can occur with these Li batteries....
Could Apple have designed a connector that wouldn't allow third party charging devices (via the Lightning port) to work, perhaps using some sort of digital signature sent from the cable/charger to the phone? If yes, why hasn't Apple done that? Is it possible Apple wanted third party charges to be available to consumers?
Well, that would make them a target for a lot of lawsuits and probably some investigations from 3 lettered agencies.
Sooner or later, all iPhones with non-detachable batteries will catch on fire. That’s why I wrote to Apple years ago their designs (NDB) had safety and security faults.
“Apple advised to Adata there could be a few factors that could cause overheating, such as the use of unauthorized charging cables and chargers”
How are consumers supposed to know if the cables or chargers are “unauthorized”? I’ve bought 1/2 a dozen chargers, and 20+ cables on Amazon in the last decade for my iPhone and IPad.
No one intentionally buys an “unauthorized” cable/charger...
Does Apple actively police what’s being sold? I assume they collect money to authorize accessories, part of that money should go to enforcement, otherwise no one is going to pay it.
AI could ask. If Apple doesn’t, their response is lawyer speak BS. If they do, that would be useful and relevant info...
Any aftermarket cable or accessory that is safe to use clearly has MFI on the box it comes in. I have used MFI cables in my car and my bedside for years without issue.
Someone did a really great comparison of the internals of Apple vs. Knockoff power bricks a couple years ago. Worth a DuckDuck search if you're into that kind of stuff.
Could Apple have designed a connector that wouldn't allow third party charging devices (via the Lightning port) to work, perhaps using some sort of digital signature sent from the cable/charger to the phone? If yes, why hasn't Apple done that? Is it possible Apple wanted third party charges to be available to consumers?
The phone will warn you if you’re using an unauthorised cable, but it won’t stop you from using it.
Sooner or later, all iPhones with non-detachable batteries will catch on fire. That’s why I wrote to Apple years ago their designs (NDB) had safety and security faults.
Did they thank you for your invaluable wisdom and offer you a job heading up the department? No? I’m shocked...
The iPhone 6 is an old model - first released in 2014 and sales stopped in 2016, so the phone is almost 3 years old at a minimum. The article doesn’t say exactly how old the phone was, but from the description, I would suspect that it was a hand-me-down device the kids were using to play games and watch videos. If this is the case, the battery was likely pretty old and may have been ‘abused’ somewhat. I’ve seen plenty of devices for which the battery is dead and kids just leave them plugged in constantly.
iPhone fires are quite unusual so it makes me wonder if there was other damage and/or a defective charger being used - both of these could lead to the battery overheating. GIven the age, it’s also possible that it had a defective replacement battery installed. Even considering this, though, you never want to have a device explode like this.
NONE of that is any excuse for a fire. NONE. ZERO.
How is a damaged battery not a reasonable explanation for a fire?
Who said it was damaged. You’re jumping to conclusions in your support of Apple.
“Apple advised to Adata there could be a few factors that could cause overheating, such as the use of unauthorized charging cables and chargers”
How are consumers supposed to know if the cables or chargers are “unauthorized”? I’ve bought 1/2 a dozen chargers, and 20+ cables on Amazon in the last decade for my iPhone and IPad.
No one intentionally buys an “unauthorized” cable/charger...
Does Apple actively police what’s being sold? I assume they collect money to authorize accessories, part of that money should go to enforcement, otherwise no one is going to pay it.
AI could ask. If Apple doesn’t, their response is lawyer speak BS. If they do, that would be useful and relevant info...
Any aftermarket cable or accessory that is safe to use clearly has MFI on the box it comes in. I have used MFI cables in my car and my bedside for years without issue.
Someone did a really great comparison of the internals of Apple vs. Knockoff power bricks a couple years ago. Worth a DuckDuck search if you're into that kind of stuff.
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No, no one intentionally buys an 'unauthorized' charger, but what they do is look and say "well, it's looks the same and it has a USB jack on one side and a 2 prong plug on the other, so it must be the same, even though it's only $1.99 at a gas station. As mentioned above, Apple has the MFI program which gives some indication of quality.
What people buy and plug into their phones is completely out of Apple's (or any other manufacturer's) control. The best they can do is ship a proper charger and cable with the device and advise them to stick to 'certified' components. Unfortunately, that frequently comes across as 'buy only [Apple/Samsung/LG] chargers and cables' which people interpret as the manufacturer simply trying to drum up accessory business. Regardless, if the device is damaged by a faulty charger, the fault lies with the charger manufacturer, not Apple.
Beware of counterfeit parts
Some counterfeit and third party power adapters and batteries may not be designed properly and could result in safety issues. To ensure you receive a genuine Apple battery during a battery replacement, we recommend visiting an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider. If you need a replacement adapter to charge your Apple device, we recommend getting an Apple power adapter.
Also non-genuine replacement displays may have compromised visual quality and may fail to work correctly. Apple-certified screen repairs are performed by trusted experts who use genuine Apple parts.
And you'd be hard-pressed to find a comments thread that doesn't contain a reasonable amount of idle speculation. As Rands says, in the absence of hard information, humans make up their own story - and it's always one where their worst fears come true.
Well, that would make them a target for a lot of lawsuits and probably some investigations from 3 lettered agencies.
Someone did a really great comparison of the internals of Apple vs. Knockoff power bricks a couple years ago. Worth a DuckDuck search if you're into that kind of stuff.
http://www.righto.com/2012/05/apple-iphone-charger-teardown-quality.html
http://www.righto.com/2016/03/counterfeit-macbook-charger-teardown.html
http://www.righto.com/2014/05/a-look-inside-ipad-chargers-pricey.html