Come on. The keyboard replacement program is a public relations move that Apple can afford to carry. Let’s face it, people have not learned how to eat and type.
Think about keyboards for a minute. What if for whatever reason a person buys a Steinway Grand piano, discovers that spilling a soft drink and recklessly spewing secondhand crumbs from their mouth and into the keyboard interferes with their musicianship. Only an idiot would consider it to be a Steinway fault.
So let’s face it. If Apple changes the keyboard mechanism, it is part of making their products idiot proof.
While it may not be the same technology, Apple succeeding with a non-mechanical keyboard the way they've succeeded with a non-mechanical trackpad would be revolutionary. If they can accomplish that, it will be the new keyboard standard.
The way Apple has nailed the trackpad by way of force touch is nothing short of magical when you use it, and absolutely earns it’s name as the Magic Trackpad.
Basic idea here is that Apple would have the same kind of success with a keyboard, which would be an unbelievable outstanding achievement.
Just make the keyboard a gigantic trackpad, with the haptic engine used to register key presses. I’ll be in line to buy one on release day.
seems to me that HP and other PC giants don’t have these keyboard issues....
ALL electronics have issues. Only Apple gets front-page articles though.
I once read a post by an iKnockoff moron that stated "Android doesn't have problems but Apple has problems every time they release an iPhone!!!!" Well no shi*, if all you do is read tech articles.
All that talk about the 16" MBP going back to scissor keys… since when has Apple ever gone backward on anything? Maybe they'll re-introduce SCSI ports on the new Mac Pro while they're at it. No, whatever sort of key mechanism the next Apple laptop has, it won't be "the old one."
And yet we still get dumb rumors stating "Apple is abandoning 3D touch for the old way" and "Apple may re-introduce the headphone jack due to demand".
Yeah and Apple will add a floppy disk drive to the next iPhone. /s
People criticize Apple for not being "innovative" yet hypocritically hold on to the past.
The real problem is the Mavis Beacon touch typists who will never be satisfied with any keyboard other than the traditional typewriter key look and feel. Andy Ihnatko on MacBreak Weekly is always bitching about keyboards on laptops and tablets.
Those are mechanical die-hards, which can be ignored in this topic.
1. Uninstall the keyboard driver.
2. Reboot the computer (without reinstalling the driver).
3. When it restarts, it should reinstall the driver on its own.
If this doesn't work, you may wish to try connecting an external
keyboard and see if it works fine. If it does, then it could be the keys
themselves that are the issue.
You may also want to try updating the Synaptics Driver if the above doesn't help.
If this doesn't help, then I would return it again.
The way Apple has nailed the trackpad by way of force touch is nothing short of magical when you use it, and absolutely earns it’s name as the Magic Trackpad.
Basic idea here is that Apple would have the same kind of success with a keyboard, which would be an unbelievable outstanding achievement.
Just make the keyboard a gigantic trackpad, with the haptic engine used to register key presses. I’ll be in line to buy one on release day.
That would be nice. Then you could seamlessly switch between QWERTY, Dvorak, or any of the other alternative keyboard layouts. If I could learn all over again I’d choose Dvorak. But I’m too ‘seasoned’ to learn it now.
The last optical keyboard I remember hearing about was all the way back in 1983, and it was a music keyboard... Sequential Circuits's Prophet T8. So this is not entirely unheard of.
I do wonder how this could be any more impervious to dust than current tech.
First off I don’t believe Apples problems are dust related. Some keyboards throughout the industry do fail that way but I believe Apple has had mechanical issues.
As for failures related to this patent, it all depends upon the actual implementation. Patents don’t really address the details that would manner here. For example the through hole for the beam interrupted could be sealed on the back side via common PCB manufacturing methods. The key side has the same old issues of crashing under the cap, however sealing the actual optical area should be easy.
Reliability in switches is really a function of how much you want to pay. This is pretty obvious in the industrial market where a push button can cost $3 or $30. I really believe part of Apples problems where the result of cost cutting to raise margins. I’m not sure if the have come to terms with that or not. For a number of reasons I’m related Reluctant to consider another Apple laptop, I’m really hoping that Apple has wised up and has retreated from profits at any cost mentality.
The way Apple has nailed the trackpad by way of force touch is nothing short of magical when you use it, and absolutely earns it’s name as the Magic Trackpad.
Basic idea here is that Apple would have the same kind of success with a keyboard, which would be an unbelievable outstanding achievement.
Just make the keyboard a gigantic trackpad, with the haptic engine used to register key presses. I’ll be in line to buy one on release day.
That would be nice. Then you could seamlessly switch between QWERTY, Dvorak, or any of the other alternative keyboard layouts. If I could learn all over again I’d choose Dvorak. But I’m too ‘seasoned’ to learn it now.
That’s where they’re heading.
By by the time they’ve reached it, the mechanical key dinosaurs will be mostly extinct.
The real problem is the Mavis Beacon touch typists who will never be satisfied with any keyboard other than the traditional typewriter key look and feel. Andy Ihnatko on MacBreak Weekly is always bitching about keyboards on laptops and tablets.
Are you seriously complaining that there are people who are touch-typists?
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Think about keyboards for a minute. What if for whatever reason a person buys a Steinway Grand piano, discovers that spilling a soft drink and recklessly spewing secondhand crumbs from their mouth and into the keyboard interferes with their musicianship. Only an idiot would consider it to be a Steinway fault.
So let’s face it. If Apple changes the keyboard mechanism, it is part of making their products idiot proof.
Thank you.
I once read a post by an iKnockoff moron that stated "Android doesn't have problems but Apple has problems every time they release an iPhone!!!!"
Well no shi*, if all you do is read tech articles.
And yet we still get dumb rumors stating "Apple is abandoning 3D touch for the old way" and "Apple may re-introduce the headphone jack due to demand".
Yeah and Apple will add a floppy disk drive to the next iPhone. /s
People criticize Apple for not being "innovative" yet hypocritically hold on to the past.
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“A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools”
HP laptop keyboard. Some keys not working as expected.
1. Uninstall the keyboard driver.
2. Reboot the computer (without reinstalling the driver).
3. When it restarts, it should reinstall the driver on its own.
If this doesn't work, you may wish to try connecting an external keyboard and see if it works fine. If it does, then it could be the keys themselves that are the issue.
You may also want to try updating the Synaptics Driver if the above doesn't help.
If this doesn't help, then I would return it again.
That would be nice. Then you could seamlessly switch between QWERTY, Dvorak, or any of the other alternative keyboard layouts. If I could learn all over again I’d choose Dvorak. But I’m too ‘seasoned’ to learn it now.
As for failures related to this patent, it all depends upon the actual implementation. Patents don’t really address the details that would manner here. For example the through hole for the beam interrupted could be sealed on the back side via common PCB manufacturing methods. The key side has the same old issues of crashing under the cap, however sealing the actual optical area should be easy.
Reliability in switches is really a function of how much you want to pay. This is pretty obvious in the industrial market where a push button can cost $3 or $30. I really believe part of Apples problems where the result of cost cutting to raise margins. I’m not sure if the have come to terms with that or not. For a number of reasons I’m related Reluctant to consider another Apple laptop, I’m really hoping that Apple has wised up and has retreated from profits at any cost mentality.
By by the time they’ve reached it, the mechanical key dinosaurs will be mostly extinct.
If they want to go ahead and perfect THAT... gotta love Apple.