Travel photographer Austin Mann praises iPhone 11 Pro camera performance

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  • Reply 21 of 36
    matrix077 said:
    iPhone 11 Pro Night Mode certainly beats Pixel hand down on details and colour balance from some video I saw. Unfortunately my wife doesn't want to upgrade her 6 this year (It's 6 years now for crying out loud! Why Apple had to make their phone too reliable???) and my friend just upgraded her 7 Plus to X so I have to wait another year to upgrade ugrrrr....
    It’s five years since the introduction of the iPhone 6.  
    Yeah.. 5 starting 6 (I was a bit dramatic there :D). Last time she upgraded her 4 at 5 years (when I bought my 6s and gave her my 6) so It's a perfect time to upgrade but she's just fine. :disappointed: 
    edited September 19 watto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 36
    neilmneilm Posts: 656member
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
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  • Reply 23 of 36
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 4,290member
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    kevin kee said:
    "Light trails on iPhone are still possible though, notes Mann, as the device is able to detect when it is placed on a tripod versus handheld and adjusts so that light trails are still captured."

    I suppose it's the gyroscope and motion sensor to detect whether the phone is on tripod or on hand?


    And yes, I agree, that fisherman pic is just beyond any phone camera capability until 11 Pro.

    Any competitor night mode would just make it like a photo of "bright day" instead of capturing the night mood.
    This isn't true. Take a look a some of the photos taken by those competitors. 

    The photo looks great btw.

    This is what the author said regarding Night Mode:

    "Many of us iPhone photographers have watched as other phones like the Pixel and the Huawei P30 have passed us in low light. It feels so good to see the iPhone 11 Pro has caught up in low light performance."
    "Speaking of Night mode, Mann was blown away by Apple's new technology. 

    "One thing I love about Apple's approach to Night mode is the strategic balance of solving a technical problem while also caring deeply about artistic expression," Mann writes. "When you look at the image above, it's clear their team didn't take the let's-make-night-look-like-day approach, as some of their competitors have. Instead, it feels more like an embrace of what it actually is (night) while asking, How do we capture the feel of this scene in a beautiful way?"
    The key word here is 'some'. There is a lot of misunderstanding around Night Mode on those competitors.

    At the beginning (more than a year ago) you had a night mode and activated it as a specific mode. That was then and it still exists. The difference is that since that beginning, things have changed an a lot.

    Now you don't have to activate a specific mode unless you really want to.

    The camera will work its magic using its AI chops (NPU etc) to deliver a great overall photo. It is not simply turning night into day just for the sake of it. In fact Night Mode can also be used to take incredible daytime shots.

    Yesterday I posted a link in another thread to some comparisons between the Huawei P30 Pro and the iPhone 11 Pro. 

    As the author of the linked article made clear, Apple has caught up somewhat but those other phones still produce great photos (as shown in the comparison) and the Mate 30 Pro just got released which looks like it is going to take things up yet another notch (pending reviews of course).

    Something similar happens with the dedicated Portrait Mode. It's still there but other modes will get you better results if you want to take certain situations into account. Aperture Mode for example. You, the user, can opt for full auto or full pro mode with no extra apps needed.
    edited September 19 applesnoranges
  • Reply 24 of 36
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 4,290member
    neilm said:
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
    LOL. Very valid point but the photos are very nice all the same. But yeah, the user (depending in his/her skills) can take things to another level.

    Was the fishermam photo shot handheld or on a tripod?


    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 25 of 36
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.
     No, you don’t. 
    pscooter63watto_cobra
  • Reply 26 of 36
    avon b7 said:
    neilm said:
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
    LOL. Very valid point but the photos are very nice all the same. But yeah, the user (depending in his/her skills) can take things to another level.

    Was the fishermam photo shot handheld or on a tripod?


    Handheld. Austin has the photo on his Instagram page and someone asked him if the photo was taken on a tripod. That's pretty impressive knowing it's handheld. 
    tmaykevin keewatto_cobra
  • Reply 27 of 36
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,184member
    Apple was well known to have the best Smartphone camera out there, and then others started catching up. The Google came along with the Pixel and did some Amazing things and with just 1 camera. The pixel was beating out the iPhone for pictures. The iPhone was still better for video but that never seems to be talked about, it's all about Pictures. Now the iPhone looks to be up on Top once again. Those pictures look amazing. What can we expect from the Pixel 4? It should be interesting as they get compared to one another. I've heard Apple is still working on making the camera even better in future software updates. These days it's pretty hard to go wrong with any Smartphone camera on the higher end phones.
    bigtdswatto_cobra
  • Reply 28 of 36
    razorpit said:
    and was paid how much by Apple ??????????
    Apple doesn’t pay to get good reviews. Their devices are already some of the best in the world, and they know it. Tell me, how much is China or Samsung paying you to sow distrust in this photographer’s abilities?
    Common, da Holland has 5 whole posts, what would ever give you that idea?
    The phrase is “Come on”, not “common”.
  • Reply 29 of 36
    neilm said:
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
    That was my second assumption.  A $1000 pro phone that can't give me wonderfully beautiful photos unless I'm on of the world's best photographers doesn't sound worth it.

    Can someone tell me why Joe Sam of the public would want this camera if they don't have the required photography training and knowledge?
    edited September 19
  • Reply 30 of 36
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,979member
    neilm said:
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
    That was my second assumption.  A $1000 pro phone that can't give me wonderfully beautiful photos unless I'm on of the world's best photographers doesn't sound worth it.

    Can someone tell me why Joe Sam of the public would want this camera if they don't have the required photography training and knowledge?
    Did he really need a snark tag?

    Seriously, the only difference between Austin and most users is that Austin takes the time to learn his camera's capabilities, or in this case, the iPhone's, and he knows how to compose his shots.

     If I'm using Night Mode, in the same place, and I compose the same, I get the same image. That's what computational imagining is all about. The only other parameter is that I would probably not be as steady in handheld mode as Austin is.
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  • Reply 31 of 36
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.
    You have an iPhone 11 before the release date? Please link to your review article.
    StrangeDayspscooter63watto_cobra
  • Reply 32 of 36
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,490member
    neilm said:
    I have an 11 Pro and my photos don't look anywhere near as good as Austin Mann's photos.  Are we sure Apple didn't give him a 'special' phone.

    No, they gave the iPhone a better photographer. 
    That was my second assumption.  A $1000 pro phone that can't give me wonderfully beautiful photos unless I'm on of the world's best photographers doesn't sound worth it.

    Can someone tell me why Joe Sam of the public would want this camera if they don't have the required photography training and knowledge?
    Oh, please.  Do you really think that only the "world's best photographers" can get good photos from the phone?  The amount of knowledge needed to get a photo of sufficient technical quality on an iPhone is probably 1% or less of that needed to do so on any modern DSLR or Mirrorless camera.  Properly used, the DSLR or Mirrorless will result in better quality (because the brilliant software in a phone can't make up for the tiny sensor), but for most people's purposes, which is sending photos or posting them on social media sites, the iPhone is more than enough quality and it gets substantially better with every new phone.  (And the removable lens camera business is quickly becoming a specialist, niche business.  Only about 9.1 million will be sold this calendar year worldwide from the Japanese companies.   Apple sells that many phones in 19 days and Apple only has 10-15% of worldwide unit sales.)  

    And the main aspect of quality photography is not the equipment anyway -- it's the eye of the photographer.  

    That $1000 phone does a hell of a lot more than take photos.   But if it doesn't provide value to you, that's fine.  I'm still using an iPhone 6.   But the difference between us is that I don't take my anecdotal experience and apply it to the entire market (and I still use a DSLR, so the camera on the phone is less important to me).   $1000 is indeed a lot of money for a phone, but my bet is that Apple's new phones will do quite well and that "Joe Sam" will want these phones, especially if they didn't upgrade in the last year or two.  Keep a $1000 phone two years and that's $9.62 a week.  Keep it three years and we're talking $6.41 a week.   That's less than coffee money.   

    edited September 19 tmaymuthuk_vanalingamStrangeDayswatto_cobrarundhvid
  • Reply 33 of 36
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,058member
    razorpit said:
    and was paid how much by Apple ??????????
    Apple doesn’t pay to get good reviews. Their devices are already some of the best in the world, and they know it. Tell me, how much is China or Samsung paying you to sow distrust in this photographer’s abilities?
    Common, da Holland has 5 whole posts, what would ever give you that idea?
    The phrase is “Come on”, not “common”.
    Thank you for bringing to my attention my fingers were moving faster than my brian.




    Yep, did it just for you...
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 34 of 36
    razorpit said:
    razorpit said:
    and was paid how much by Apple ??????????
    Apple doesn’t pay to get good reviews. Their devices are already some of the best in the world, and they know it. Tell me, how much is China or Samsung paying you to sow distrust in this photographer’s abilities?
    Common, da Holland has 5 whole posts, what would ever give you that idea?
    The phrase is “Come on”, not “common”.
    Thank you for bringing to my attention my fingers were moving faster than my brian.




    Yep, did it just for you...
    Lol. I thought it was auto-correct which messed up with your brian, err brain.
    avon b7
  • Reply 35 of 36
    I’m pretty sure the reason the night mode takes multiple frames is to allow noise subtraction.

    This is impressive on the new iPhones but yeah, there are other cameras that do this. OnePlus 7 Pro is pretty good at this too! Apple actually didn’t invent night mode...
  • Reply 36 of 36
    No, Apple didn't invent night mode for sure, but they did make it much better. Apple invented the tech behind iPhone's night mode.
    watto_cobra
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