Apple Pro Display XDR 'game changer' for 'Jumanji' studio

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in Current Mac Hardware edited July 2020
Apple's Pro Display XDR is a great monitor for professional production, a major animation studio who worked on the movie 'Jumanji: The Next Level' claims, with usage of the new Mac Pro and the display during a real-world project demonstrating the benefits of using the screen without paying excessively for a reference monitor.




The Mac Pro and the Pro Display XDR are intended for use in creative industries, including Hollywood movies and game development, among other fields with high workloads. While so far the bulk of opinions on the new high-level hardware have been from critics and reviewers, companies that actually need to use the hardware in production are starting to offer their views on the hardware.

One of the first major opinions comes from Lunar Animation, a UK-based studio which works on CGI and visual effects for films, commercials, and games. In a post to its website, it is also one of the first firms to take advantage of the Mac Pro and the Pro Display XDR for a project, with high praise offered for the monitor.

Billing the Pro Display XDR as "the real game changer," the studio writes it gives the firm "an ability that we previously didn't have in the studio.: This is in the form of a "phenomenally accurate visual representation of the content we were making," allowing Lunar to "deliver something we were truly confident in."

Apple's Pro Display XDR provided the studio with "essentially" a reference monitor, a piece of hardware that would typically cost tens of thousands of dollars to acquire. While the Pro Display XDR is extremely close to what a reference monitor is capable of displaying, it also does so at a considerably lower cost.

As the firm's final deliverables were EXR files, the Pro Display XDR provided the range for animators to "see past the maximum brightness of a standard iMac display." Knowing the final files were accurate saved the studio the extra cost of "spending money to rent out a facility to check the files," something Lunar couldn't afford to do due to the "tight turnaround" needed for the work.

The Pro Display XDR is $4,999 for the normal glossy version, rising to $5,999 for the nano-etched matte version. The Pro Display Stand is available separately, at a cost of $999.

The Pro Display XDR "is now an invaluable tool that were going to be using on all projects moving forward," the studio insists.






While the biggest praise was saved for the Pro Display XDR, the studio was also pleased with the Mac Pro, namely the increased performance the workstation offers above other Macs the company uses, including the iMac Pro.

In one example, creating the two-minute end credits for the film required the use of 28 high-resolution photorealistic objects, with each having high-resolution textures and geometry. Previously, the iMac Pro the team used wasn't capable of handling all of the assets with high resolution texture maps as the Mac kept running out of graphics RAM.

Switching over from the Radeon Pro Vega 64 with 16GB of HBM2 memory in the 10-core iMac Pro to the 16-core Mac Pro with two Radeon Pro Vega II cards with 32GB of HBM2 memory each and the Apple Afterburner card, the team discovered the benefits of reduced limitations in hardware.

The same scene opened perfectly due to using multiple times the amount of graphics memory, but then they were also surprised to see it playing back in real-time without pre-caching. Unlocking the scene from 24 frames per second, animators saw it play at up to 134 frames per second.
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  • Reply 1 of 46
    I normally don't like action flicks, but I loved the last one. The new one was a little bit disappointing, but I usually expect that from a siquel. 
    Metriacanthosaurus
  • Reply 2 of 46
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    It’s becoming more and more clear that the XDR monitor is a really good bargain for professionals. The overpriced meme simply doesn’t hold water. Not that the facts will stop the usual suspects from hammering away at it, though.
    tmayrazorpitStrangeDayspscooter63watto_cobraguscatnetmagewilliamlondonMisterKitcornchip
  • Reply 3 of 46
    Mine arrives first week of January (possibly second week). Can't wait.
    rezwitswatto_cobrawilliamlondonMisterKitcornchipmagman1979chasmjony0
  • Reply 4 of 46
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Now, are finally getting who this equipment is aimed at?
    pscooter63gilly33watto_cobranetmagewilliamlondoncornchipmagman1979jony0
  • Reply 5 of 46
    Rayz2016 said:
    Now, are finally getting who this equipment is aimed at?
    Yea! Clearly me!


    ... and those who actually need view color correct HDR content, either for production or review. 

    But still, me!
    mwhitewatto_cobraguscatcy_starkmancornchipSpamSandwichchasmjony0
  • Reply 6 of 46
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,099member
    Waiting for haters like sjworld to chime (whine) in and tell us all why the XDR (and stand) is an overpriced POS. 

    No amount of real-world validations by actual pros will convince these wannabes that this will implode the $40k reference monitor industry.
    gilly33watto_cobraguscatStrangeDayslkruppcornchipmagman1979chasmjony0
  • Reply 7 of 46
    lkrupp said:
    It’s becoming more and more clear that the XDR monitor is a really good bargain for professionals. The overpriced meme simply doesn’t hold water. Not that the facts will stop the usual suspects from hammering away at it, though.
    It's becoming more clear that Apple has a hit home run with this pro Mac products that were introduced this year.  I'm not in the target market but it's great to see pro users getting what they want
    gilly33watto_cobraguscatwilliamlondonMisterKitcornchipSpamSandwichmagman1979pscooter63jony0
  • Reply 8 of 46
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
  • Reply 9 of 46
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    You don't need a Mac Pro to be able to use the Pro XDR display

    "Pro Display XDR is compatible with the following Mac models running macOS Catalina 10.15.2 or later:
    • Mac Pro (2019) with MPX Module GPUs
    • 15-inch MacBook Pro (2018 or later)
    • 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
    • 21.5-inch iMac (2019)
    • 27-inch iMac (2019)
    • Any Mac model with Thunderbolt 3 ports paired with Blackmagic eGPU or Blackmagic eGPU Pro"

    https://www.apple.com/ca/pro-display-xdr/specs/
    edited December 2019 watto_cobraguscatnetmagecornchipmagman1979pscooter63chasmjony0
  • Reply 10 of 46
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    I wish I had the cash to "kinda settle" for a new Mac Pro. I just upgraded my trashcan Mac Pro to max out with 64 GB of fast memory and 2 TB of flash. That will have to do for now. Maybe I'll hit the lottery or something.
    edited December 2019 watto_cobracornchiprezwits
  • Reply 11 of 46
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    You don't need a Mac Pro to be able to use the Pro XDR display

    "Pro Display XDR is compatible with the following Mac models running macOS Catalina 10.15.2 or later:
    • Mac Pro (2019) with MPX Module GPUs
    • 15-inch MacBook Pro (2018 or later)
    • 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
    • 21.5-inch iMac (2019)
    • 27-inch iMac (2019)
    • Any Mac model with Thunderbolt 3 ports paired with Blackmagic eGPU or Blackmagic eGPU Pro"

    https://www.apple.com/ca/pro-display-xdr/specs/
    And of course any PC that supports TB3 with a video card that push that resolution.
    watto_cobraguscatmuthuk_vanalingamcornchip
  • Reply 12 of 46
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,099member
    I wonder if the next iMac Pro will incorporate the same cheesegrate design of the XDR?
    watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 13 of 46
    Appleish said:
    Mine arrives first week of January (possibly second week). Can't wait.
    Got mine yesterday. Amazing overkill. But don’t regret the purchase. And no, I’m not the target group. But I simply appreciate the quality. I think Apple will sell plenty.
    watto_cobraguscatwilliamlondonEPmac74cornchipmagman1979pscooter63
  • Reply 14 of 46
    ...are things like 'Jumanji' really the highest and best use for all this technology...?

    edited December 2019 williamlondon
  • Reply 15 of 46
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    ...are things like 'Jumanji' really the highest and best use for all this technology...?
    The last one grossed nearly $1 billion worldwide in theater tickets and the newly released one is already over $320 million, and each is costing the studios $100–$150 million to make.

    That quality monitor sounds like a no brainer for editing an expensive, popular, and high grossing feature film.
    fastasleeproundaboutnownetmageStrangeDayschiamagman1979pscooter63
  • Reply 16 of 46
    Soli said:
    ...are things like 'Jumanji' really the highest and best use for all this technology...?
    The last one grossed nearly $1 billion worldwide in theater tickets and the newly released one is already over $320 million, and each is costing the studios $100–$150 million to make.

    That quality monitor sounds like a no brainer for editing an expensive, popular, and high grossing feature film.
    ...I guess, and yet does virtual everything risk becoming a new effective populist reality as the planet burns...?
    edited December 2019 williamlondon
  • Reply 17 of 46
    Soli said:
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    You don't need a Mac Pro to be able to use the Pro XDR display

    "Pro Display XDR is compatible with the following Mac models running macOS Catalina 10.15.2 or later:
    • Mac Pro (2019) with MPX Module GPUs
    • 15-inch MacBook Pro (2018 or later)
    • 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
    • 21.5-inch iMac (2019)
    • 27-inch iMac (2019)
    • Any Mac model with Thunderbolt 3 ports paired with Blackmagic eGPU or Blackmagic eGPU Pro"

    https://www.apple.com/ca/pro-display-xdr/specs/
    And of course any PC that supports TB3 with a video card that push that resolution.
    I was under the impression that Apple-branded displays and displays designed for Macs (LG UltraFine 4K / 5K) only work with Macs.  Or is that incorrect?
    edited December 2019
  • Reply 18 of 46
    Soli said:
    ...are things like 'Jumanji' really the highest and best use for all this technology...?
    The last one grossed nearly $1 billion worldwide in theater tickets and the newly released one is already over $320 million, and each is costing the studios $100–$150 million to make.

    That quality monitor sounds like a no brainer for editing an expensive, popular, and high grossing feature film.
    ...I guess, and yet does virtual everything risk becoming a new effective populist reality as the planet burns...?
    Are you suggesting there’s something wrong with arts and entertainment?
    netmagewilliamlondonStrangeDayschiamagman1979pscooter63
  • Reply 19 of 46

    Soli said:
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really want to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    You don't need a Mac Pro to be able to use the Pro XDR display

    "Pro Display XDR is compatible with the following Mac models running macOS Catalina 10.15.2 or later:
    • Mac Pro (2019) with MPX Module GPUs
    • 15-inch MacBook Pro (2018 or later)
    • 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
    • 21.5-inch iMac (2019)
    • 27-inch iMac (2019)
    • Any Mac model with Thunderbolt 3 ports paired with Blackmagic eGPU or Blackmagic eGPU Pro"

    https://www.apple.com/ca/pro-display-xdr/specs/
    And of course any PC that supports TB3 with a video card that push that resolution.
    Are there any?
    cy_starkman
  • Reply 20 of 46
    Soli said:
    rezwits said:
    Seems like studios will "kinda settle" by getting a Mac Pro, i.e. this will be something they don't really wa hi nt to go BACK to for some places.

    But the XDR Display SEEMS to be the reason they will really really want to be ok settling...

    I have read a few comments from people that just really only want the display!  ha
    You don't need a Mac Pro to be able to use the Pro XDR display

    "Pro Display XDR is compatible with the following Mac models running macOS Catalina 10.15.2 or later:
    • Mac Pro (2019) with MPX Module GPUs
    • 15-inch MacBook Pro (2018 or later)
    • 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
    • 21.5-inch iMac (2019)
    • 27-inch iMac (2019)
    • Any Mac model with Thunderbolt 3 ports paired with Blackmagic eGPU or Blackmagic eGPU Pro"

    https://www.apple.com/ca/pro-display-xdr/specs/
    And of course any PC that supports TB3 with a video card that push that resolution.
    I was under the impression that Apple-branded displays and displays designed for Macs (LG UltraFine 4K / 5K) only work with Macs.  Or is that incorrect?
    That is incorrect.
    netmagecy_starkmancornchip
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