What just happened here

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Wait a second. I was informed by someone in the know that new PBG4s should've been out at Macworld Tokyo.....what just happened? I'm not making this up and there is no reason they shouldnt have new ones out anywayz. Motorola has the same G4 used in the 550 & 667 available NOW at up to 800 MHz at least. Plus, there are new graphics options such as the Radeon Mobility 7500 and new GeForce 4 Go (which is shipping already, Toshiba has a laptop out with it). So what gives here? Also higher resolution displays could be done. I don't get this at all.
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  • Reply 1 of 39
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    No new CPUs. Simple enough.
  • Reply 2 of 39
    agent302agent302 Posts: 974member
    You shouldn't be surprised. That Maccentral interview with Joswiak told us that the 4 quadrants weren't going to be updated, and they weren't, so they didn't lie to us. I would think a new Powerbook would come sometime between now and WWDC though (which happens to start May 6)
  • Reply 2 of 39
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>Wait a second. I was informed by someone in the know that new PBG4s should've been out at Macworld Tokyo.....what just happened?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Uh... looks like your friend doesn't understand English, cause Apple announced there wouldn't be new CPUs anytime soon. Get over it.



    Edit: Hehe... two people beat me to it.



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  • Reply 4 of 39
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    Well whatever. I still wasn't believing that quote. And if you check that thread at Macworld where the guy who was at the keynote did updates, he said that someone came by him and said they opened up the screens and there were iMacs, iBooks, and Powerbooks.....what the heck? Seriously there's no reason they couldnt announce new modesl so why are they doing this. I have no reason to lie about being told about the new models though.
  • Reply 5 of 39
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    Maybe they'd like to sell the overstock first. For me, the PB G4 needs a new screen the most, though it was improved at the last rev. For now, I'm still sticking to my G3 firewire for the road. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />



    Of course, I'd love to be able to get a G4 laptop that had ADC capability so I could come home and plug 'er in!
  • Reply 6 of 39
    agent302agent302 Posts: 974member
    [quote]Originally posted by Cubit:

    <strong>Maybe they'd like to sell the overstock first. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sounds pretty plausible, given that the ship time at the Apple Store is only 1-2 days. Give it a month, and there might be new models (though that's just my completely unknowledgeable guess). Anyway, when they release new models, I will buy one, so here's hoping!
  • Reply 7 of 39
    tarbashtarbash Posts: 278member
    Maybe the 7445 is almost done and ready to go and Apple wants to wait for that at speeds up to 867+.



    I still say May like I always have.
  • Reply 8 of 39
    max8319max8319 Posts: 347member
    if anything, i thought the ibooks might get updated because there was/is a thread over at macnn with a lot of people who said that the ibooks were "EOL"
  • Reply 9 of 39
    rupertrupert Posts: 69member
    Maybe Apple didn't want to contradict the "no new cpus" statement. I recall a similar statement made before Apple expo paris last September. Sure enough, no new hardware (computers) at that event. However, in mid-October, the 600 iBook and the 550/667 Powerbooks made their way to market.



    Perhaps the new portables are going to show up in mid-April. April would be 2 months from the "no new cpus" statement. This could be possible.



    Or maybe mid-May. At any rate, there is time for an annoucement before MWNY. Remember last year when the white, 500 MHz iBooks were announced on May 1st...



    -'pert
  • Reply 10 of 39
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>Motorola has the same G4 used in the 550 & 667 available NOW at up to 800 MHz at least. Plus, there are new graphics options such as the Radeon Mobility 7500 and new GeForce 4 Go (which is shipping already, Toshiba has a laptop out with it). So what gives here? Also higher resolution displays could be done. I don't get this at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The PowerBook is old enough now that Apple isn't going to refresh it. They're going to redesign it.



    They might be waiting for the 7445. They might be debugging an all-new motherboard. They might have the motherboard totally finished, but they're deep into the intricate process of making it all run cool.



    An Apple Event in late April or May doesn't seem that far-fetched.
  • Reply 11 of 39
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    Sounds like Tiger needs a new source!
  • Reply 12 of 39
    LOL, new Titanium revision, w/ ultra-high resolution display announced April 24.



    May 15: "Due to component costs and inflated LCD prices, the Titanium powerbooks will increase $300 in price effective immediately."





    Way to go Apple, raise those prices so you can pump up your market share.
  • Reply 13 of 39
    agent302agent302 Posts: 974member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>LOL, new Titanium revision, w/ ultra-high resolution display announced April 24.



    May 15: "Due to component costs and inflated LCD prices, the Titanium powerbooks will increase $300 in price effective immediately."





    Way to go Apple, raise those prices so you can pump up your market share.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Those who know nothing about economics shouldn't comment on it. The Tibooks have a much higher margin than the iMacs do, thus, they can absorb the component price hikes in the 'books but not in the iMacs. :head exploding:
  • Reply 14 of 39
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by agent302:

    <strong>



    Those who know nothing about economics shouldn't comment on it. The Tibooks have a much higher margin than the iMacs do, thus, they can absorb the component price hikes in the 'books but not in the iMacs. :head exploding:</strong><hr></blockquote>



    the ibooks don't and yet their price didn't change.
  • Reply 15 of 39
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    All the "new" bubbles are gone from the Apple Store. So I guess everything is due for a price hike, err upgrade.



    Except the iMac I guess, since its "Revision B" now. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 16 of 39
    tarbashtarbash Posts: 278member
    Applenut, the iBooks also use smaller, cheaper LCDs, plus with the iMac price hike, this probably eases any profit loss on the iBook line.



    Amen Agent. At least someone here has good economic sense and knows what it takes to steer a business through component/input shortages.
  • Reply 17 of 39
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>



    the ibooks don't and yet their price didn't change.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The price jumped on the iMacs due to the increased demand for 15" LCD's, and possibly the increase in memory prices (though Apple never really decreased their prices for RAM when it hit bottom a few months ago).
  • Reply 18 of 39
    How about some evidence on the iMac's profit margins?



    If the iMac's 15" LCD display costs too much to keep the iMac's price down, then we should see price increases on other 15" LCD displays on the market. How about some evidence?



    I think the price hike has NOTHING to do with manufacturing costs, and EVERYTHING to do with the low supply. Since Apple cannot build enough iMacs, they are trying to make up for lost profits by increasing prices. Component shortages are to blame, along with bad management at Apple.



    Apple totally missed out on a great opportunity to expand their market share. Alas, rather than keep the iMac prices down and move larger volumes, Apple has chosen to sell smaller volumes of iMacs at higher prices. An incredibly stupid move, since market share should be Apple's #1 priority right now.



    What I would like to know is, what does someone do if they want a desktop Mac, but don't want so spend more than $1000-$1200? Apparently Apple doesn't want their business. And no, the CRT iMac is not an option, it is so outdated and pathetic nobody wants them.
  • Reply 19 of 39
    gamblorgamblor Posts: 446member
    I agree with JYD, except:



    [quote] What I would like to know is, what does someone do if they want a desktop Mac, but don't want so spend more than $1000-$1200? Apparently Apple doesn't want their business. And no, the CRT iMac is not an option, it is so outdated and pathetic nobody wants them.

    <hr></blockquote>



    I don't think Apple sees it as a worth-while market to target right now. People interested in machines at that price point are definitely going to be consumers, and the "sweet spot" (where the hump of the bell curve is centered) for consumers is $1500-$2000. Apple markets the new iMac to them quite nicely.



    Eventually Apple will expand (back) into the lower markets, but right now, the iMac just costs too much to make it worth while.
  • Reply 20 of 39
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    i am mostly wondering when the ibook will go g4 to complement its consumer desktop counterpart. my guess is that they can't put a g4 in the ibook until they can get faster g4's in the tibook (667 low-end, 800 high?).



    just remember that wwdc is geek-mecca for the apple community, and the tibook speaks to that demographic. so my bet is that tibooks go up at wwdc, with ibooks up at macworld july shortly thereafter.



    of course, i am just pulling that outta my ass.
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