Zoom macOS install 'shady,' plus video chats aren't end-to-end encrypted

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  • Reply 21 of 26
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Where is Apple on this? Aren’t we guaranteed buys them that anything downloaded through the Apple store is perfectly safe?

    That’s why the Mac version Isn’t on the Mac App Store. And even the App Store doesn’t guarantee safety. 

    If you have to use Zoom, use it on the iPad. 

    If people ask why Apple continues to lock down the MacOS, then this is why. 
    edited March 2020 JBSloughjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 26
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 11,565member
    sacto joe said:
    Near as I can tell, the only “questionable” issue here is the following:

    ”Zoom is reportedly doing what's called transport encryption. This makes the connection between the users and Zoom's servers encrypted, but doesn't prevent Zoom itself seeing the calls.”

    So if you have something private to say or show, don’t use Zoom! For the rest of us, no biggie. And for many meetings, for example helping people meet for church functions now that churches have closed their doors, it’s just fine.
    No, you've overlooked the preflight stage of installing to do the installer, before user permission is granted. 

    You've overlooked their lying about E2E, which is worse than simply offering it. 

    You've overlooked they were selling your data to Facebook until they were shamed.

    You've overlooked they were installing an insecure server which comprised your camera, until Apple *updated macOS* to expressly purge their software, like it does for malware. 

    ...all of this makes painfully obvious Zoom is a company which does not value the security nor privacy of its users.
    edited March 2020 cornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 23 of 26
    MplsPMplsP Posts: 3,250member
    sacto joe said:
    Near as I can tell, the only “questionable” issue here is the following:

    ”Zoom is reportedly doing what's called transport encryption. This makes the connection between the users and Zoom's servers encrypted, but doesn't prevent Zoom itself seeing the calls.”

    So if you have something private to say or show, don’t use Zoom! For the rest of us, no biggie. And for many meetings, for example helping people meet for church functions now that churches have closed their doors, it’s just fine.
    No, you've overlooked the preflight stage of installing to do the installer, before user permission is granted. 

    You've overlooked their lying about E2E, which is worse than simply offering it. 

    You've overlooked they were selling your data to Facebook until they were shamed.

    You've overlooked they were installing an insecure server which comprised your camera, until Apple *updated macOS* to expressly purge their software, like it does for malware. 

    ...all of this makes painfully obvious Zoom is a company which does not value the security nor privacy of its users.
    I have to agree but unfortunately many people like me are in a difficult position - in the current COVID era of remote conferencing, Zoom has become a near-standard for many meetings and since the organizer of the meeting chooses the platform, participants are frequently stuck with it.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 26

    DAalseth said:
    They may have, I know that they have a separate Government version. Zoomgov
    To be honest at this point I don't care if they have a Zoom CIA/NSA version. I don't trust them, and I won't use them.
    So, help us out here, what you trust/use?
    edited March 2020 watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 26

    Zoom is now under scrutiny for (lack of) privacy and porn hacks. Linked is a Yahoo New story.



    watto_cobra
  • Reply 26 of 26
    seneca72seneca72 Posts: 40member
    Folks are crawling all over Zoom in a way that it couldn't have expected, prior to the CV-19 crisis.  

    My University insists on people using Microsoft Teams, since they regard Zoom as a hacker's paradise.

    Zoom is leaking peoples’ email addresses and photos to strangers • VICE


    watto_cobra
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