Congress plans legislation to regulate contact tracing apps

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The U.S. Senate plans to unveil bipartisan legislation Monday to introduce regulations on COVID-19 contact tracing and exposure notification apps.

Senate lawmakers are planning a bill to introduce federal regulations on contact tracing apps.
Senate lawmakers are planning a bill to introduce federal regulations on contact tracing apps.


The so-called "Exposure Notification Privacy Act" would include federal regulations around COVID-19 contact tracing efforts by the tech industry, which are focused on tracking who a user comes into contact with and alerting them if one of those contacts tests positive for the virus.

Democrat and Republican lawmakers, led by Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), say that the legislation is necessary to ensure that contact tracing isn't forced onto unwilling participants and that any data collected is protected, The Washington Post reported.

Some of the privacy protections in the legislation include requiring companies to work with public health agencies on apps and obtain explicit consent before tracking a user's location. It would also keep collected data from being used for commercial purposes, and would give the government more power to penalize breaches of privacy and security.

Efforts into researching and developing digital contact tracing have boomed during the global health crisis. In May, Apple and Google launched a developer framework that public health agencies can use to build apps that track the spread of COVID-19.

The Apple-Google API already does away with many of the concerns listed by Cantwell. It's exclusively opt in, stores user data in a decentralized manner and doesn't collect personally identifiable information or location data. Similarly, only vetted health authorities can build apps using the platform.

As of publication time, no U.S. state has released an app using the Apple-Google API, however. Several states, including Alabama, North Dakota and South Carolina, have signaled that they are exploring solutions built using the framework.

Other contact tracing platforms have fewer privacy protections in place. Utah's proprietary solution, developed by a social media company, collects GPS, location and Bluetooth data to track virus spread.

The bill does appear to at least partly aimed at employer-created contact tracing technology, specifically to address concerns that workers may be forced into installing tracking software onto their personal devices. Businesses would be barred from discriminating against employees who don't participate.

The Post points out that public confidence in contact tracing is low, with nearly half of Americans saying that they're unlikely to use it. Experts maintain that contact tracing apps will rely on a significant portion of the population using them to be effective.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 17
    viclauyycviclauyyc Posts: 849member
    So is it effectively ban the central database kinda app?
    PetrolDavewatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 17
    viclauyyc said:
    So is it effectively ban the central database kinda app?
    Central database apps should be banned IMHO
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 17
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    Welcome to 1984. Just 40 years later.
  • Reply 4 of 17
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Well, if you don't install the damn things you don't have to worry. They day they make installation mandatory is the time to worry.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 17
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    Ridiculous...
    Google and Facebook already know more about you -- and store and sell that information -- than your mother does.  And none of it has any socially redeeming value to society.

    So, why are we all so concerned and worried about apps that could save tens of thousands of American lives?   It kinda suggests that profits at Google and Facebook are more important to America than American lives.
  • Reply 6 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Ridiculous...
    Google and Facebook already know more about you -- and store and sell that information -- than your mother does.  And none of it has any socially redeeming value to society.

    So, why are we all so concerned and worried about apps that could save tens of thousands of American lives?   It kinda suggests that profits at Google and Facebook are more important to America than American lives.
    LOL. Every so often you seem entirely clueless, things go in one ear and out the other....
    What personal information is Google selling? 
  • Reply 7 of 17
    Inform yourself about how such an app can help TTIQ (Test, Trace, Isolate, Quarantine) and protect privacy:  https://github.com/DP-3T/documents .  This is the Swiss Covid app.  It is now being tested.  Once the Swiss Parliament passes the legislature that provides the legal framework for using the app, it will be rolled out, probably around the end of June or the beginning of July.  The developers worked with Apple and Google on the development of the Exposure Notification framework.
  • Reply 8 of 17
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    Ridiculous...
    Google and Facebook already know more about you -- and store and sell that information -- than your mother does.  And none of it has any socially redeeming value to society.

    So, why are we all so concerned and worried about apps that could save tens of thousands of American lives?   It kinda suggests that profits at Google and Facebook are more important to America than American lives.
    LOL. Every so often you seem entirely clueless, things go in one ear and out the other....
    What personal information is Google selling? 

    Is it that you think personal insults improve your case -- which is pretty much laughable?
  • Reply 9 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    gatorguy said:
    Ridiculous...
    Google and Facebook already know more about you -- and store and sell that information -- than your mother does.  And none of it has any socially redeeming value to society.

    So, why are we all so concerned and worried about apps that could save tens of thousands of American lives?   It kinda suggests that profits at Google and Facebook are more important to America than American lives.
    LOL. Every so often you seem entirely clueless, things go in one ear and out the other....
    What personal information is Google selling? 

    Is it that you think personal insults improve your case -- which is pretty much laughable?
    So after researching it for yourself you figured out Google doesn't sell any personal information. Mission accomplished.

    I'm sure you'd rather others believe what you say rather than sighing "On no, here's comes George again". Now if you repeat that old falsehood it will just be you knowingly spreading misinformation and you certainly wouldn't do that, right? 

    You're welcome. Baby steps. 
    edited June 2020
  • Reply 10 of 17
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    So Google just collects all your personal information for hell of it huh?
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    edited June 2020
  • Reply 11 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    Bull to what? Serious question.

    Obviously you have nothing that disputes what I said about Google so whatever it is that's "Bull!" must be intended as personal.
    So if you were to repeat "Google sells personal information" it would plainly be a lie since you now know better and you wouldn't ever intentionally lie, correct?
    edited June 2020
  • Reply 12 of 17
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    Bull to what? Serious question.

    Obviously you have nothing that disputes what I said about Google so whatever it is that's "Bull!" must be intended as personal.
    So if you were to repeat "Google sells personal information" it would plainly be a lie since you now know better and you wouldn't ever intentionally lie, correct?

    LOL.... Your shift to self-pity is pitiful....

    I'll wait for an actual response.
  • Reply 13 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    gatorguy said:
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    Bull to what? Serious question.

    Obviously you have nothing that disputes what I said about Google so whatever it is that's "Bull!" must be intended as personal.
    So if you were to repeat "Google sells personal information" it would plainly be a lie since you now know better and you wouldn't ever intentionally lie, correct?

    LOL.... Your shift to self-pity is pitiful....

    I'll wait for an actual response.
    There's questions I asked you, the clue is that little curly thing at the end of a sentence, but you rarely ever answer them.  Avoiding the questions, missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, distraction, logical fallicies? Yeah, you have those types of replies down pat.

    It doesn't really matter because most of us recognize why you avoid them. Questions can be hard and sometimes require more than "because George says so".
    edited June 2020
  • Reply 14 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Getting back on topic the Google/Apple tracing API is getting a burst of interest with even the early reacting Singapore considering a change to using it rather than their TraceTogether implementation. Australia who had chosen to follow the Singapore design with identifiable people and tracking has seen horrible results in the month following the app release with just one single successful Covid-19 tracing result so far. They are likely to change tactics and integrate the Apple/Google API instead.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-europe-tech/europe-pins-hopes-on-smarter-coronavirus-contact-tracing-apps-idUSKBN23B1OA

    If the US Congress has concerns about Apple/Google collecting pesonal information via their API it's for one of two reasons:
    1. Politics and gamesmanship or
    2. Ignorance, and understandably so since neither company has done a great job explaining it. 


    edited June 2020
  • Reply 15 of 17
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    Bull to what? Serious question.

    Obviously you have nothing that disputes what I said about Google so whatever it is that's "Bull!" must be intended as personal.
    So if you were to repeat "Google sells personal information" it would plainly be a lie since you now know better and you wouldn't ever intentionally lie, correct?

    LOL.... Your shift to self-pity is pitiful....

    I'll wait for an actual response.
    There's questions I asked you, the clue is that little curly thing at the end of a sentence, but you rarely ever answer them.  Avoiding the questions, missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, distraction, logical fallicies? Yeah, you have those types of replies down pat.

    It doesn't really matter because most of us recognize why you avoid them. Questions can be hard and sometimes require more than "because George says so".

    Still waiting for a something other than personal attacks and insults.   But you have nothing.   Just a blind, unwavering defense of Google no matter what they do.
  • Reply 16 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    Nice try!   But bull!

    By the way, you really need to rename yourself to     G O O G L E   G U Y

    Bull to what? Serious question.

    Obviously you have nothing that disputes what I said about Google so whatever it is that's "Bull!" must be intended as personal.
    So if you were to repeat "Google sells personal information" it would plainly be a lie since you now know better and you wouldn't ever intentionally lie, correct?

    LOL.... Your shift to self-pity is pitiful....

    I'll wait for an actual response.
    There's questions I asked you, the clue is that little curly thing at the end of a sentence, but you rarely ever answer them.  Avoiding the questions, missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, distraction, logical fallicies? Yeah, you have those types of replies down pat.

    It doesn't really matter because most of us recognize why you avoid them. Questions can be hard and sometimes require more than "because George says so".

    Still waiting for a something other than personal attacks and insults.   But you have nothing.   Just a blind, unwavering defense of Google no matter what they do.
    Wait no longer.

    I know you've been consistent in your claims that we must give up some personal privacy in order to have an effective contact tracing system. You've said on numerous occasions that our names and locations are essential to a successful and effective effort, with the Google/Apple API essentially useless.  Am I correct? 
    edited June 2020
  • Reply 17 of 17
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    @GeorgeBMac , I see you've been active in several other threads since the post but neglected to respond to this one. Perhaps you've overlooked the question, thus the ping. 
    edited June 2020
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