Apple Maps trials updated maps for UK and Ireland

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Apple has started to test its update for Apple Maps that brings more detailed information to the navigation app, with a small number of users spotting the new map data being used in the United Kingdom and Ireland.

Apple Maps update for the UK and Ireland [via Justin O'Beirne]
Apple Maps update for the UK and Ireland [via Justin O'Beirne]


During WWDC 2020, Apple announced it would be bringing its improved Apple Maps to more countries, expanding on its existing work in the United States. Its first international expansion, as part of iOS 14, will cover the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Canada, and would occur sometime later in 2020.

According to Justin O'Beirne, who has been keeping track of the update's rollout in different areas, there have been some sightings of the refreshed map for the UK. Testing was spotted on August 22, but it seems to only be visible to a very small number of users, with polling pointing to only 3% of Apple devices having access.

Apple initially visited the UK and Ireland in June 2015 with its mapping vehicles, with the last subregions of each country traversed by May 2019.

Analysis of Apple's previous testing of Maps expansions reveals it takes between 16 days and 49 days performing public testing ahead of a general release. Given the relatively small size of the UK and Ireland compared to other expanded areas, it seems plausible that the testing cycle will be on the quicker end of the spectrum, though the range would also coincide with an anticipated public release of iOS 14.

There is no sign of similar testing covering an update to Canada's maps at the time of publication, but it is likely to occur soon if Apple is to meet its late-2020 deadline.

Along with more detailed maps outside the US, the Apple Maps update will also include enhanced cycling directions, improvements to recommendations for where to visit or eat, and EV routing.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 8
    Google Maps is way more detailed still. Also, it seems very incomplete in the Netherlands.
    And the lack of Street View (Look Around is nice, but it’s San Francisco and a few other cities...) is a problem.

    What’s happening with this 2 trillion dollar company? One retired guy traveling the world in an old VW van with his make-shift Lidar scanner, submitting bits and bits of data when he’s not fishing, fixing his engine or buying dog food for his three-legged German Shepard? 
    elijahgOferentropys
  • Reply 2 of 8
    edac2edac2 Posts: 29member
    If you only care about roads and highways, Google Maps wins hands down. But if you want to know where trains are, or even something as simple as borders (ANY border), Apple Maps is far superior. I liken it to an engineer (Google) vs designer (Apple) approach to cartography. The failure of Apple is its insistence on using Apple-only apps for its maps, and worse, a proprietary and confusing language of navigation controls. In order to gain any traction, Apple Maps needs to be browser-based like Google Maps. DuckDuckGo uses Apple Maps, but without the 3D feature. The Apple Maps app for iOS offers a 3D view, but the Google Maps app does not; you have to use the separate Google Earth app for that feature.
    OferCheeseFreezeGG1
  • Reply 3 of 8
    edac2 said:
    If you only care about roads and highways, Google Maps wins hands down. But if you want to know where trains are, or even something as simple as borders (ANY border), Apple Maps is far superior. I liken it to an engineer (Google) vs designer (Apple) approach to cartography. The failure of Apple is its insistence on using Apple-only apps for its maps, and worse, a proprietary and confusing language of navigation controls. In order to gain any traction, Apple Maps needs to be browser-based like Google Maps. DuckDuckGo uses Apple Maps, but without the 3D feature. The Apple Maps app for iOS offers a 3D view, but the Google Maps app does not; you have to use the separate Google Earth app for that feature.
    This is a really good point. They do seem to support it (see link), but for some reason they ‘hide’ it more vs really leverage it through what Google does so successfully: web REST APIs.

    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/mapkitjs
  • Reply 4 of 8
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,759member
    edac2 said:
    If you only care about roads and highways, Google Maps wins hands down. But if you want to know where trains are, or even something as simple as borders (ANY border), Apple Maps is far superior. I liken it to an engineer (Google) vs designer (Apple) approach to cartography. The failure of Apple is its insistence on using Apple-only apps for its maps, and worse, a proprietary and confusing language of navigation controls. In order to gain any traction, Apple Maps needs to be browser-based like Google Maps. DuckDuckGo uses Apple Maps, but without the 3D feature. The Apple Maps app for iOS offers a 3D view, but the Google Maps app does not; you have to use the separate Google Earth app for that feature.
    Apple Maps is missing huge numbers of businesses too. Businesses add (and maintain) their details manually on Google Maps, but there's no easy way to do that with Apple Maps, you have to go through the report menu in the Maps app. Then all the data gets verified by Apple and after about a week, gets updated. Unlike Google Maps, there's no way for a business to "own" a pin. They recently added a lot of businesses seemingly from Companies House - despite which lots of businesses are still missing, but a lot of which shouldn't be listed on Apple Maps. A sibling runs a company from my house for tax purposes, and so now when I ask Siri to take me home for example, it says getting directions to <company name> rather than the house name. Siri suggestions that I'd like to drive home show the company name rather than home, too. 
    edited August 2020 caladanian
  • Reply 5 of 8
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,168member
    If only Apple used some of its scarce financial reserves to actually seriously get data world wide, instead of waiting for the next ice age.
    elijahgcaladanian
  • Reply 6 of 8
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Why is the front page counting five comments for this article?

    There’s only two (three now). 
  • Reply 7 of 8
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,563member
    Rayz2016 said:
    Why is the front page counting five comments for this article?

    There’s only two (three now). 
    I count six (seven now). 

    You blocked any users or pissed anyone off?
    caladanian
  • Reply 8 of 8
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    spheric said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    Why is the front page counting five comments for this article?

    There’s only two (three now). 
    I count six (seven now). 

    You blocked any users or pissed anyone off?
    Ah! Right! Yeah, I forgot about that. I block loads of people and piss everyone off. I hadn’t realised it was a count of messages I can see rather than an overall message count. 

    Duh! 🙄
    caladanianwatto_cobra
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