Looking at that list can you not see how a manufacturer can both be contracted to assemble sub-par designs and poor materials, as well as assemble high-quality designs and materials?
My daughter was buying one and I told her not to... but then I looked at it and drove it.
They make them a lot better now.
I could see this happening.
Apple would be very unwise to partner with Hyundai, unless they intend on taking advantage of their robotics expertise (they very recently acquired Boston Dynamics).
Though we have 1 Hyundai in our extended family, most think Kia does a better job of design. Ready to be a tad more adventuresome than Hyundai. Just sayin'... Though, come to to think of it, we have more Dodge pickups than anything else. :-]
It is normal this days. For example under Volkswagen Group you have next to Volkswagen also Audi, Skoda, SEAT, Porsche .....
Not quite. All of those are now brands are completely controlled, if not 100% owned, by Volkswagen. Sure, they each have their own management teams to manage the brands. More similar to how GM used to own Chevy, Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Hummer, Saab, GMC and Saturn. The ownership arrangement between Hyundai and Kia is different as explained in the link above and other reading I did afterwards.
Hyundai certainly seems to produce far better and quite competitive vehicles these days vs. back when they started selling in the U.S. ... but ... Hyundai being afraid of an Apple tie-in potentially hurting the Hyundai brand is truly hilarious
Hyundai certainly seems to produce far better and quite competitive vehicles these days vs. back when they started selling in the U.S. ... but ... Hyundai being afraid of an Apple tie-in potentially hurting the Hyundai brand is truly hilarious
Might hurt their brand in Korea, a country where chaebols control everything.
Kia's 2021 Telluride is Consumer Report's #1 Midsized SUV out of 25 tested. Their design and quality have become world class and their vehicles tend to be excellent values, too. Not bad for a relative newcomer to the automotive world. I suspect Apple has made an excellent choice in a partner if these reports are true.
Kia's 2021 Telluride is Consumer Report's #1 Midsized SUV out of 25 tested. Their design and quality have become world class and their vehicles tend to be excellent values, too. Not bad for a relative newcomer to the automotive world. I suspect Apple has made an excellent choice in a partner if these reports are true.
I haven’t found Consumer Reports credible for several decades.
Kia's 2021 Telluride is Consumer Report's #1 Midsized SUV out of 25 tested. Their design and quality have become world class and their vehicles tend to be excellent values, too. Not bad for a relative newcomer to the automotive world. I suspect Apple has made an excellent choice in a partner if these reports are true.
I haven’t found Consumer Reports credible for several decades.
If it makes you feel any better, the Telluride took the same honors from Car and Driver in 2020.
Proposed models include Puma, Leopard, Mojave, Catalina, and the flagship of the line Big Sur which will have all the bells and whistles. Sure sounds better than Tesla’s S, X, Y, 3.
Jokes aside. Tesla's model designations are intentional. Listed properly, they would spell "sexy" in leetspeak. S 3 X Y. Fun fact, Model 3 only exists because Ford wouldn't let Telsa use Model E as a designation. Rumor has it all of Tesla's vehicle together spell SEXY CARS. Models S, 3, X, Y. C- Cybertruck, A- All terrain quad, R- Roadster, S- Semi truck. No idea if it's true, but it does seem like something 420 Elon would do.
In one of his presentations, Elon Musk actually describes how Ford wouldn't let them use the name 'Model E' and then goes on to say "so Ford killed sex!"
I'm not sure why so many find Kia and Hyundai connection confusing. They acquired Kia (and LG Semi-Conductor) in 1997 when Japan's economy collapsed. It would be like not understanding how Apple can make both AirPods Max and Beats Solo3 Wireless.
So why would Japan’s economy tanking lead to a Korean Company taking over another one or two Korean companies?
Also FYI — 1997 was the Asian Financial Crisis. Much more than just Japan.
Anyone find it ironic that Apple would partner with a korean car company after the billions of dollars spent fighting Samsung?
When you look at Tesla, they biggest hurdles they've had to overcome have been manufacturing related. If apple is going to make a car, partnering with an existing automaker makes a ton of sense. They can take advantage of the other company's experience and expertise in manufacturing and assembly and focus on what they do best - the user interface and operating system design.
As many others have pointed out, Hyundai and Kia have come a long way from building cheap, 2nd rate economy cars. Their cars are now considered quite good and Hyundai's luxury brand, Genesis has gotten very good reviews.
I'm not sure why so many find Kia and Hyundai connection confusing. They acquired Kia (and LG Semi-Conductor) in 1997 when Japan's economy collapsed. It would be like not understanding how Apple can make both AirPods Max and Beats Solo3 Wireless.
So why would Japan’s economy tanking lead to a Korean Company taking over another one or two Korean companies?
Also FYI — 1997 was the Asian Financial Crisis. Much more than just Japan.
It's a typo, clearly meaning to be S. Korea. Japan was less affected that other Asian countries.
Anyone find it ironic that Apple would partner with a korean car company after the billions of dollars spent fighting Samsung?
When you look at Tesla, they biggest hurdles they've had to overcome have been manufacturing related. If apple is going to make a car, partnering with an existing automaker makes a ton of sense. They can take advantage of the other company's experience and expertise in manufacturing and assembly and focus on what they do best - the user interface and operating system design.
As many others have pointed out, Hyundai and Kia have come a long way from building cheap, 2nd rate economy cars. Their cars are now considered quite good and Hyundai's luxury brand, Genesis has gotten very good reviews.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Major_customers
Looking at that list can you not see how a manufacturer can both be contracted to assemble sub-par designs and poor materials, as well as assemble high-quality designs and materials?
https://www.hyundainews.com/en-us/bios/albert-biermann
That definitely falls into the "learn something new everyday" category. Thanks.
Not quite. All of those are now brands are completely controlled, if not 100% owned, by Volkswagen. Sure, they each have their own management teams to manage the brands. More similar to how GM used to own Chevy, Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Hummer, Saab, GMC and Saturn. The ownership arrangement between Hyundai and Kia is different as explained in the link above and other reading I did afterwards.
Also FYI — 1997 was the Asian Financial Crisis. Much more than just Japan.
When you look at Tesla, they biggest hurdles they've had to overcome have been manufacturing related. If apple is going to make a car, partnering with an existing automaker makes a ton of sense. They can take advantage of the other company's experience and expertise in manufacturing and assembly and focus on what they do best - the user interface and operating system design.
As many others have pointed out, Hyundai and Kia have come a long way from building cheap, 2nd rate economy cars. Their cars are now considered quite good and Hyundai's luxury brand, Genesis has gotten very good reviews.