'Apple Car' may automatically configure seats, keep displays private

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  • Reply 21 of 28
    qwerty52 said:
    These things are certainly very interesting and useful for the users, but they will for sure push up the total price of the car.
    Maybe it should have zero features to make it cheaper! 🙄
    You don’t understand. This features are nice and make your live easy, but they aren’t a game changer. How many times you have changed the position of your driver seat since you bought your car and do you remember when was the last time you did it..........?
    What I mean is: It is more interesting if the car is expensive because of its longer range, then of its not so important features
    razorpit
  • Reply 22 of 28

    rcomeau said:
    Sorry, but these are stupid and not innovative in any way.

    What the heck are you trying to hide on your dashboard screen and from whom? Your wife sitting next to you? You are in a private, closed environment. Someone not wearing shutter glasses can see the screen perfectly well, just at 50% brightness. How stupid are you going to look wearing shutter glasses over your regular (for those of us who wear glasses) to drive a car? By the way, shutter glasses are 30 years old, so hardly new. They were among the first 3D glasses (Stereopgraphics) and the method was swapping left-right news in two alternating buffers. Pretty simple to have both shutters on/off at the same time (instead of alternating) so again, nothing new.
    Try reading the article again, specifically about shared screens with multiple users' content on them. Dummy content to obscure from outside observers. It's for passengers, not drivers.
    Really, maybe Apple car feature rumours should be limited to features that might actually be appealing to someone. This throw all the noodles to the wall to see what sticks method hardly makes anyone excited at the prospect of an Apple car (on top of the rumour that Kia will be making them?). Not getting me excited at least.

    Or they can just write about the myriad patents that have been coming out for the past five years and you can skip over the ones you're not interested in? Some of us are interested in the patents, thank you very much. What gets you excited could not be less interesting to me.

    Sorry, I did not realize anyone looked at porn while driving and worry about people sitting next to you at a traffic light sticking their heads out the window and peeking at your screen? What would one want to hide? Is the battery charge state a national secret? Is that screen so expensive that you can't have two, if viewer-specific content is so important? Instead, you have to double the brightness (since your eyes are getting a 50% duty cycle of the screen) and you have to have specific shutter glasses that you cannot lose or break by sitting on them accidentally. Anyone else in the car will have a distractingly bright screen in their face unless they are to wear the glasses.

    There are a million things Apple can do better than other companies, but this is not anywhere on any reasonable person's list. BTW, these forums are here exactly for al of us to comment with our opinions. None of our opinions matter to Apple, so it is really for the entertainment of us exchanging ideas and opiions.
    qwerty52razorpit
  • Reply 23 of 28
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,195member
    Apple thinks memory seats and memory steering wheel is innovation?  Cars that have memory seats and a power adjusting steering wheel with push-to-start keyfobs have done that for years.  It recognizes which keyfob started the car and automatically adjusts the steering wheel and driver seat automatically.  My 2016 Maxima did that, as well as any other vehicle that shares the same features.

    Apple's Digital Key is dumb.  My keyfob is far more convenient because I never have to take it out of my pocket to start the car or unlock the doors.  Apple's innovation is requiring you to place the phone on a charge pad to start the car?  Hey Apple, you might as well invent the physical key...and then you can lend that key to friends so they can wreck your car drop your policy limits to the minimum for 'permissive use'.  No one leaves their house without their keys.
    When will you realize you’re responding to speculation? Some of what’s been reported is rumor, some is patent filings, but none of it is product marketing material. You simply have no idea what the final product will or won’t do. Nobody here does. 
    edited January 2021 SpamSandwichwatto_cobrabyronl
  • Reply 24 of 28
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 1,906member
    rcomeau said:

    rcomeau said:
    Sorry, but these are stupid and not innovative in any way.

    What the heck are you trying to hide on your dashboard screen and from whom? Your wife sitting next to you? You are in a private, closed environment. Someone not wearing shutter glasses can see the screen perfectly well, just at 50% brightness. How stupid are you going to look wearing shutter glasses over your regular (for those of us who wear glasses) to drive a car? By the way, shutter glasses are 30 years old, so hardly new. They were among the first 3D glasses (Stereopgraphics) and the method was swapping left-right news in two alternating buffers. Pretty simple to have both shutters on/off at the same time (instead of alternating) so again, nothing new.
    Try reading the article again, specifically about shared screens with multiple users' content on them. Dummy content to obscure from outside observers. It's for passengers, not drivers.
    Really, maybe Apple car feature rumours should be limited to features that might actually be appealing to someone. This throw all the noodles to the wall to see what sticks method hardly makes anyone excited at the prospect of an Apple car (on top of the rumour that Kia will be making them?). Not getting me excited at least.

    Or they can just write about the myriad patents that have been coming out for the past five years and you can skip over the ones you're not interested in? Some of us are interested in the patents, thank you very much. What gets you excited could not be less interesting to me.

    Sorry, I did not realize anyone looked at porn while driving and worry about people sitting next to you at a traffic light sticking their heads out the window and peeking at your screen? What would one want to hide? Is the battery charge state a national secret? Is that screen so expensive that you can't have two, if viewer-specific content is so important? Instead, you have to double the brightness (since your eyes are getting a 50% duty cycle of the screen) and you have to have specific shutter glasses that you cannot lose or break by sitting on them accidentally. Anyone else in the car will have a distractingly bright screen in their face unless they are to wear the glasses.

    There are a million things Apple can do better than other companies, but this is not anywhere on any reasonable person's list. BTW, these forums are here exactly for al of us to comment with our opinions. None of our opinions matter to Apple, so it is really for the entertainment of us exchanging ideas and opiions.

    If the car becomes a mobile meeting room then there are many sensitive things that aren't porn* that could be on the screen for the occupants.
    Families might have home movies, business users financial information. Your financial adviser might set up an office in one and be discussing sensitive information with you parked in front of your house for the neighbours walking by to see.

    Driveless changes the entire nature of the car.

    *People will watch porn in their cars every new technology ever invented has been used to titillate and find an early market. That's just life. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 28
    mattinoz said:
    rcomeau said:

    rcomeau said:
    Sorry, but these are stupid and not innovative in any way.

    What the heck are you trying to hide on your dashboard screen and from whom? Your wife sitting next to you? You are in a private, closed environment. Someone not wearing shutter glasses can see the screen perfectly well, just at 50% brightness. How stupid are you going to look wearing shutter glasses over your regular (for those of us who wear glasses) to drive a car? By the way, shutter glasses are 30 years old, so hardly new. They were among the first 3D glasses (Stereopgraphics) and the method was swapping left-right news in two alternating buffers. Pretty simple to have both shutters on/off at the same time (instead of alternating) so again, nothing new.
    Try reading the article again, specifically about shared screens with multiple users' content on them. Dummy content to obscure from outside observers. It's for passengers, not drivers.
    Really, maybe Apple car feature rumours should be limited to features that might actually be appealing to someone. This throw all the noodles to the wall to see what sticks method hardly makes anyone excited at the prospect of an Apple car (on top of the rumour that Kia will be making them?). Not getting me excited at least.

    Or they can just write about the myriad patents that have been coming out for the past five years and you can skip over the ones you're not interested in? Some of us are interested in the patents, thank you very much. What gets you excited could not be less interesting to me.

    Sorry, I did not realize anyone looked at porn while driving and worry about people sitting next to you at a traffic light sticking their heads out the window and peeking at your screen? What would one want to hide? Is the battery charge state a national secret? Is that screen so expensive that you can't have two, if viewer-specific content is so important? Instead, you have to double the brightness (since your eyes are getting a 50% duty cycle of the screen) and you have to have specific shutter glasses that you cannot lose or break by sitting on them accidentally. Anyone else in the car will have a distractingly bright screen in their face unless they are to wear the glasses.

    There are a million things Apple can do better than other companies, but this is not anywhere on any reasonable person's list. BTW, these forums are here exactly for al of us to comment with our opinions. None of our opinions matter to Apple, so it is really for the entertainment of us exchanging ideas and opiions.

    If the car becomes a mobile meeting room then there are many sensitive things that aren't porn* that could be on the screen for the occupants.
    Families might have home movies, business users financial information. Your financial adviser might set up an office in one and be discussing sensitive information with you parked in front of your house for the neighbours walking by to see.

    Driveless changes the entire nature of the car.

    *People will watch porn in their cars every new technology ever invented has been used to titillate and find an early market. That's just life. 
    People work with sensitive stuff on planes and other confined environments all the time and no one is peeking at your screen. A simple film that limits the view angle for the few of us that might have very sensitive stuff on their screens is plenty good enough. No one outside your car or in the car next to you is gong to be able to read the screen and a simple window shade ($5 rather than ridiculous shutter glasses that all occupants would have to wear works too). Sounds as useful as a cone of silence (google that f you are under 40, you'll love it). How do people in cars not manage this supposed information security nightmare with their iPads today?
    edited January 2021
  • Reply 26 of 28
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 1,906member
    rcomeau said:
    mattinoz said:
    rcomeau said:

    rcomeau said:
    Sorry, but these are stupid and not innovative in any way.

    What the heck are you trying to hide on your dashboard screen and from whom? Your wife sitting next to you? You are in a private, closed environment. Someone not wearing shutter glasses can see the screen perfectly well, just at 50% brightness. How stupid are you going to look wearing shutter glasses over your regular (for those of us who wear glasses) to drive a car? By the way, shutter glasses are 30 years old, so hardly new. They were among the first 3D glasses (Stereopgraphics) and the method was swapping left-right news in two alternating buffers. Pretty simple to have both shutters on/off at the same time (instead of alternating) so again, nothing new.
    Try reading the article again, specifically about shared screens with multiple users' content on them. Dummy content to obscure from outside observers. It's for passengers, not drivers.
    Really, maybe Apple car feature rumours should be limited to features that might actually be appealing to someone. This throw all the noodles to the wall to see what sticks method hardly makes anyone excited at the prospect of an Apple car (on top of the rumour that Kia will be making them?). Not getting me excited at least.

    Or they can just write about the myriad patents that have been coming out for the past five years and you can skip over the ones you're not interested in? Some of us are interested in the patents, thank you very much. What gets you excited could not be less interesting to me.

    Sorry, I did not realize anyone looked at porn while driving and worry about people sitting next to you at a traffic light sticking their heads out the window and peeking at your screen? What would one want to hide? Is the battery charge state a national secret? Is that screen so expensive that you can't have two, if viewer-specific content is so important? Instead, you have to double the brightness (since your eyes are getting a 50% duty cycle of the screen) and you have to have specific shutter glasses that you cannot lose or break by sitting on them accidentally. Anyone else in the car will have a distractingly bright screen in their face unless they are to wear the glasses.

    There are a million things Apple can do better than other companies, but this is not anywhere on any reasonable person's list. BTW, these forums are here exactly for al of us to comment with our opinions. None of our opinions matter to Apple, so it is really for the entertainment of us exchanging ideas and opiions.

    If the car becomes a mobile meeting room then there are many sensitive things that aren't porn* that could be on the screen for the occupants.
    Families might have home movies, business users financial information. Your financial adviser might set up an office in one and be discussing sensitive information with you parked in front of your house for the neighbours walking by to see.

    Driveless changes the entire nature of the car.

    *People will watch porn in their cars every new technology ever invented has been used to titillate and find an early market. That's just life. 
    People work with sensitive stuff on planes and other confined environments all the time and no one is peeking at your screen. A simple film that limits the view angle for the few of us that might have very sensitive stuff on their screens is plenty good enough. No one outside your car or in the car next to you is gong to be able to read the screen and a simple window shade ($5 rather than ridiculous shutter glasses that all occupants would have to wear works too). Sounds as useful as a cone of silence (google that f you are under 40, you'll love it). How do people in cars not manage this supposed information security nightmare with their iPads today?

    Yes, but in those cases, the information is not generally being shared. This would seem to me to be about expanded opportunities more than existing ones. Glass has very different needs when non of the occupants are driving.
  • Reply 27 of 28
    Maybe even have an auto toilet 
  • Reply 28 of 28
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,191member
    qwerty52 said:
    These things are certainly very interesting and useful for the users, but they will for sure push up the total price of the car.
    And that doesn't happen with current production vehicles?

    cornchip said:
    Well the seats & steering wheel changing by detecting what iPhone is in the driver’s seat is one of those “obvious idea obvious” things. but still pretty cool.. obviously. 
    There's still more, as noted in the article — adjust the mirrors, radio station presets (if anybody still listens to the radio, but Apple would probably want you to listed to Apple music) set environmental controls, unlock an extra 100HP but restrict output for young drivers, etc. In a multi driver family sometimes/often using the same car automatically making a plethora of personalizations would be huge. So cars do some of this now, manually with multi-position switches. 

    rcomeau said:
    Sorry, but these are stupid and not innovative in any way.
    That applies to the entirety of your post.

    Apple thinks memory seats and memory steering wheel is innovation?
    You're talking out your ass. The article doesn't say or imply that. It appears Apple thinks that they have a better way of automating those features and my guess is that it could be done easily and cheaper for a multi-driver family than trying to get the same functionality out of several fobs.

    Who know what the finished product will and won't do. But we can always count on so many experts who don't know jackshit to criticize it before it even is announced let alone shipped.
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