Freedom of Religion
So all the talk I've been hearing has been about the reconstruction of Iraq. My question is: will there be freedom of religion?
I doubt it. In all honesty, freedom of religion is not a tenet of Islam. (I studied the rise of Islam in college.) So how "free" will Iraq be? Opinions?
Personally, I have no problems with someone being Muslim, as long as they are willing and sincere. How many people in the Middle East would convert (not necessarily to Christianity either) if they didn't have a gun pointed at their heads? Rebuttals?
I doubt it. In all honesty, freedom of religion is not a tenet of Islam. (I studied the rise of Islam in college.) So how "free" will Iraq be? Opinions?
Personally, I have no problems with someone being Muslim, as long as they are willing and sincere. How many people in the Middle East would convert (not necessarily to Christianity either) if they didn't have a gun pointed at their heads? Rebuttals?
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Though if they manage a democracy, there may be some kind of religious tolerance, as there are a number of competing sects and faiths in Iraq...and not all are small enough to be easily marginalized.
Will iraq remain a "quasi-secular" state?
Will it be more secular (like turkey)?
Or less (with a state religion, sunni or shi'a)?
I don't get the question.
Originally posted by New
What kind of freedom of religion are you talking about?
I think he meant the kind of freedom that allows you to be a christian, or a buddhist, or whatever, and not be prosecuted for it.
Originally posted by der Kopf
I think he meant the kind of freedom that allows you to be a christian, or a buddhist, or whatever, and not be prosecuted for it.
oh, like the right you had in Iraq before the war?
Originally posted by New
oh, like the right you had in Iraq before the war?
Hey, don't shoot the pianist. I have not offered my opinion on the matter at hand, only on what the original poster might have said.
Originally posted by New
oh, like the right you had in Iraq before the war?
You mean like the right that killed off most of the Jews in Iraq? That one? I'm sure you like it.
Originally posted by Scott
You mean like the right that killed off most of the Jews in Iraq? That one? I'm sure you like it.
Most jews in iraq wern't killed, ignorant.
Originally posted by Fangorn
In all honesty, freedom of religion is not a tenet of Islam.
I can't think of any really succesful religion that says it's okay not to believe in it, especially not as a core value of the religion. In fact the fast spreading ones are those that encourage their members to seek out converts.
If you're talking historically then I believe muslims have a record of getting along with other religions on a par with christians, for example.
Since history doesn't support your the claim that Islam and religious freedom are incompatible then perhaps a better question would be what, if anything, has changed about these Islam and other religions and their respective followers if you now claim one to be more (or less) able to get along with other religions.
I was going to post an informative link from the where is raed? weblog about the rise of fundamentalism in Iraq since the end of the first Persian Gulf Distraction but the site appears dead. I'll perhaps try again later.
Originally posted by New
Most jews in iraq wern't killed, ignorant.
thats true.. only the ones that didnt leave quick enough.
Originally posted by The General
thats true.. only the ones that didnt leave quick enough.
You can call it what you want.
I'm not claiming that the conditions for jews in Iraqi wern't bad during events in the region that led to the establishment of Israel and the following wars.
But Scotts claim, that most were killed, is totally untrue.
A jewish history-page on the jews of iraq...
don't isolate it to islam.
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
don't isolate it to islam
But its so much easier to back up a simplistic and racist worldview if we do.
Originally posted by New
You can call it what you want.
I'm not claiming that the conditions for jews in Iraqi wern't bad during events in the region that led to the establishment of Israel and the following wars.
But Scotts claim, that most were killed, is totally untrue.
A jewish history-page on the jews of iraq...
Yes , but they have been largely persecuted. Not strange if you consider that the Hitlerian system was a model for Saddam, like Staline who was his model.
The yellow identity cards and others, are directly inspired by the Nazis. Only international public opinion have prevented him to kill of them, emigrate then in an another countrie was simplier ...
Thanks for that link New, i have learn something today. I wish that i will learn something more positive tomorrow.