Apple tied with fifth-place Asus in Q2 global PC market

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in macOS edited July 2022
Apple slipped to fifth place in total PC shipments during the second quarter of 2022 amid a broader decline in the entire market.

MacBook Pro
MacBook Pro


Shipments of Apple's Mac fell by 22.5% year-over-year in Q2 2022. That's higher than the 15.3% hit that the entire PC market took during the same period, according to new data from research firm IDC.

In total, global PC shipments fell to 71.3 million units. IDC says that it was the second straight quarter of lower shipments following two years of explosive growth during the coronavirus pandemic.

Q2 2022 PC shipments via IDC
Q2 2022 PC shipments via IDC


Apple shipments clocked in at 4.8 million units during Q2 2022, basically tying it in fifth place with Asus, which had 4.7 million shipments. In first through fourth were Lenovo, HP, Dell, and Acer, in that order.

Although the market anticipated some slowing in growth, IDC says that the decline was worse than expected because of worsening supply and logistical issues from Covid-19 lockdowns in China and persistent macroeconomic headwinds.

"Fears over a recession continue to mount and weaken demand across segments," said Jitesh Ubrani, IDC research manager. "Consumer demand for PCs has weakened in the near term and is at risk of perishing in the long term as consumers become more cautious about their spending and once again grow accustomed to computing across device types such as phones and tablets."

Despite the overall decline, the total PC volume is still comparable to the beginning of the pandemic. The market is also still well above pre-pandemic levels.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 11
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Well, something is screwy. We keep reading that Mac sales are up, and now, that they are down.
    FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 11
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    Please keep in mind the top 4 on that list sells some PCs and laptops for under $300

    Apple lowest is $1k

    To put it in context 
    Beatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 11
    kiowawakiowawa Posts: 17member
    Wait until the numbers come in and include the latest MacBook Air!!  I have a feeling that new laptop will move like few before it.  
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 11
    danoxdanox Posts: 2,853member
    Apple makes? 75% of the profit share that is all that counts……and 1000% of a in house OS something else that counts even more.
    edited July 2022 watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 11
    So where's all the hand-wringing about HP?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 11
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,480member
    I’m sure if it were Apple at 4.7 and the other at 4.8 there would be no tie mention. Apple would have been listed as 6th not tied for 5th. Funny how that works. 
    Beatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 11
    thadecthadec Posts: 97member
    So where's all the hand-wringing about HP?
    Why hand-wring when HP sold over 13 million to Apple's less than 5 million? Also, everyone spent 2 years claiming that the switch to Apple Silicon was going to turbocharge sales. Now it is finally obvious that - despite specious claims to the contrary - pretty much the only people buying Apple Silicon Macs are the same ones that bought Intel ones. So there is no "bigger storyline" to HP going back and forth with Dell to be the #2 PC maker to Lenovo as usual. But with Apple, the whole "ARM is the future and x86 - especially Intel - is doomed!" storyline of the past 1-2 years is going to now quietly recede. By next year, when both Intel Raptor Lake and AMD Zen 5 products will be on the shelves, those folks are going to start denying that they ever predicted the x86 collapse and Intel bankruptcy fantasies in the first place.
    edited July 2022 muthuk_vanalingamgrandact73
  • Reply 8 of 11
    thadecthadec Posts: 97member
    Madbum said:
    Please keep in mind the top 4 on that list sells some PCs and laptops for under $300

    Apple lowest is $1k

    To put it in context 
    Get real. The only "under $300" PCs run ChromeOS.
    1. IDC doesn't count Chromebooks as PCs so they aren't listed in the above figures. 
    2. Even if they did, ChromeOS sales are generally a little more/a little less than macOS sales. 

    Unlike ChromeOS, which can run on 4 GB RAM, 32 GB of flash storage and an Intel Celeron, AMD Athlon or low end ARM CPU, Windows 11 needs 8 GB RAM, and Intel Core i3 or AMD Ryzen 3 and a 128 GB SSD to do anything at all. That runs about $450. While Windows devices cheaper than that do exists they don't sell that well. 
    Finally the Mac Mini starts at $700. Not $450 like a Ryzen 3 desktop but not "lowest $1K" either. 

    So end the nonsense narratives fueled by false information. The truth: Apple Silicon didn't change squat and Mac remains the minor player in the "PC" space that it was before. Apple is:
    1. iPhone 
    2. services
    3. iPad
    4. wearables (Apple Watch and Airpods)  
    5. Mac 
    6. smart devices (Apple TV and HomePod)

    Yes, the Mac generates more revenue than the wearables division. But the wearables division is more influential: far more people buy the Apple Watch and especially AirPods than Macs.

    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 9 of 11
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    thadec said:
    Madbum said:
    Please keep in mind the top 4 on that list sells some PCs and laptops for under $300

    Apple lowest is $1k

    To put it in context 
    Get real. The only "under $300" PCs run ChromeOS.
    1. IDC doesn't count Chromebooks as PCs so they aren't listed in the above figures. 
    2. Even if they did, ChromeOS sales are generally a little more/a little less than macOS sales. 

    Unlike ChromeOS, which can run on 4 GB RAM, 32 GB of flash storage and an Intel Celeron, AMD Athlon or low end ARM CPU, Windows 11 needs 8 GB RAM, and Intel Core i3 or AMD Ryzen 3 and a 128 GB SSD to do anything at all. That runs about $450. While Windows devices cheaper than that do exists they don't sell that well. 
    Finally the Mac Mini starts at $700. Not $450 like a Ryzen 3 desktop but not "lowest $1K" either. 

    So end the nonsense narratives fueled by false information. The truth: Apple Silicon didn't change squat and Mac remains the minor player in the "PC" space that it was before. Apple is:
    1. iPhone 
    2. services
    3. iPad
    4. wearables (Apple Watch and Airpods)  
    5. Mac 
    6. smart devices (Apple TV and HomePod)

    Yes, the Mac generates more revenue than the wearables division. But the wearables division is more influential: far more people buy the Apple Watch and especially AirPods than Macs.

    Not sure why you’re so angry but continuous increase in Mac sales is more than “didn’t change squat”. What a joke.

    And quit the bull**** there’s plenty of Windows virus machines under 200 bucks.
    edited July 2022 watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 11
    danox said:
    Apple makes? 75% of the profit share that is all that counts……and 1000% of a in house OS something else that counts even more.
    And you pay for it. Isn't it funny? I switched to ASUS (monitor 3 years go and now built PC PN50 mini barebone based which is smaller than Mac Mini and more powerful serving up to four 4K displays at the same time) for $950. Try to get  this with 64GB fastest RAM  on the market (at the time - 2021) and decent 1TB SSD and see how much it costs with Apple.
    edited July 2022
  • Reply 11 of 11
    1348513485 Posts: 347member
    melgross said:
    Well, something is screwy. We keep reading that Mac sales are up, and now, that they are down.
    IDC has no magical source for Apple computer sales data, never have. And they don't count iPads as computers. The very best that can be said is it's speculative. 
    danox said:
    Apple makes? 75% of the profit share that is all that counts……and 1000% of a in house OS something else that counts even more.
    And you pay for it. Isn't it funny? I switched to ASUS (monitor 3 years go and now built PC PN50 mini barebone based which is smaller than Mac Mini and more powerful serving up to four 4K displays at the same time) for $950. Try to get  this with 64GB fastest RAM  on the market (at the time - 2021) and decent 1TB SSD and see how much it costs with Apple.
    We're happy for you. And if you built your own house it should be cheaper than buying a new one already built. 
    watto_cobra
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