No, it’s just you refusing change and being unwilling to adapt.
I'm following Apple very closely and I'm buying its products from 1988. I didn't even prefer to go to a job if they had PCs. Consider that, do you think all those years I was unwilling to adapt and refusing changes?
Because of my work I'm discussing Mac and macOS users' matters. I didn't find even one user that is happy for this change.
Not without reason, the Apple system with system preferences was, yes still was until Monterey, the best way for a Not-A-Nerd-User to have a clear image about to do what, for everything in preferences. Now in Ventura even the strong users are confused.
I'm still a pro-Apple in everything, and when friends and a lot acquaintances ask me about which platform and computer to buy, I certainly tell them that the best solution is an Apple Mac.
I see your account and I realize that you are the 'Master Of The Knowledge' (when you don't attack people here). So, could you please give us your lights of knowledge about why the 'Ventura system settings' are better than 'Monterey System Preferences'? Or at least why the 'Monterey System Preferences' are worst than 'Ventura settings'?
Cause if you don't have valid argument cases about that, you are just one of those who blindly follow what a company does, and that everything they do is divine written in stone.
This is outrageous! The whole point of using applications like Dropbox is to offload files that bloat the internal SSD. This will definitely be a dealbreaker for any upgrades to macOS. I’m glad I read about this - I’ll be sending Apple a huge complaint.
Dropbox is primarily used for offloading locally-stored files to the cloud. For most users, this is a non-issue.
That's a bold and incorrect statement that most people are only offloading.
The problem I'm having with this whole fiasco is Mac OS Ventura Beta was annocued may or june of 2022? So Apple just "sprang" this on you? How long did Dropbox know of these changes? I'm assuming they had time to address these issues, they just sat on their hands or did this start is 13.2? That's still Decemeber timeframe.
It might be worth looking at Maestral (https://www.maestral.app/) as an alternative to the official Dropbox client. The File Provider APIs are required if you want to have content that is partially online and partially offline, as it allows files to be downloaded seamlessly on demand. If all you want is the classic Dropbox experience - a local folder that syncs, this doesn’t require any special APIs nor have any limits on where data can be stored. Unfortunately Dropbox doesn’t seem to have much interest in this use case anymore and is all-in on content that is stored in the cloud and retrieved on-demand.
Also came here to suggest Maestral. I don’t use Dropbox like the people mentioned in the article but I switched to it a couple years ago simply because it’s so much more resource efficient than the official client.
I'm not sure if this has been addressed or not, but strictly speaking, macOS doesn't care whether a drive is external or not. You can use Advanced Options in Settings » Users & Groups to change your home folder to an external drive. This would make the new restrictions run the entire user from that external drive, which includes Dropbox files.
Still, that's surely not an ideal option for most users, so I hope Apple finds a solution for Dropbox.
In the meantime it looks possible to create a simple Automator Action to copy/move files in various folders between drives. This may allow one to get Dropbox items on a limited internal drive onto an external drive with little fuss, save for the extra time to copy via USB/TB.
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
I'm very happy that it's now inline with iPadOS. The fact that I had to learn a slightly new setup after 20 years isn't an issue, especially since it's well organized and I still search for anything I can't quickly find. Bring on the switchers!
when onedrive made this change all the comments said they were moving to dropbox. no one understood this was going to affect all of these services. i ended up buying a new mac with a larger internal ssd. i guess that’s what apple wanted.
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
I'm very happy that it's now inline with iPadOS. The fact that I had to learn a slightly new setup after 20 years isn't an issue, especially since it's well organized and I still search for anything I can't quickly find. Bring on the switchers!
I got the same sort of response when I expressed my dislike for the Butterfly keyboard. I got the same when I moaned the lack of the SD card slot. Indeed, I was mocked back then for NOT having been "a switcher". In the end, guess what happened?
Some things are not good enough to provoke us to be a switcher. Just because it is "inline with iPadOS" doesn't mean it is right or good for MacOS. Watch the Snazzy Labs video linked on page 1 of this thread for all the details of why the new System Settings UI is very BAD on macOS.
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
I'm very happy that it's now inline with iPadOS. The fact that I had to learn a slightly new setup after 20 years isn't an issue, especially since it's well organized and I still search for anything I can't quickly find. Bring on the switchers!
I got the same sort of response when I expressed my dislike for the Butterfly keyboard. I got the same when I moaned the lack of the SD card slot. Indeed, I was mocked back then for NOT having been "a switcher". In the end, guess what happened?
Some things are not good enough to provoke us to be a switcher. Just because it is "inline with iPadOS" doesn't mean it is right or good for MacOS. Watch the Snazzy Labs video linked on page 1 of this thread for all the details of why the new System Settings UI is very BAD on macOS.
Us? We are not switchers. Switchers would be people that are NOT currently using macOS, but switch to macOS, usually because of their experience with other Apple devices.
How exactly do you think a butterfly keyboard or lack of an SD card slot wold ever help create switchers?
PS: I watched that Snazzy Labs segment. Are you wanting me to ignore where he called the prior look a "very old very bad" design? I'm guessing you do. He can have issues with it. You can have issues with it. I happen to like both the old and new for different reasons and implore you to detail how a brand new System Settings app should look—not just a "I wish this was here" or "I wish they'd bring this back"—or at least show me another OS that has done better than macOS in this regard.
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Because of my work I'm discussing Mac and macOS users' matters. I didn't find even one user that is happy for this change.
Not without reason, the Apple system with system preferences was, yes still was until Monterey, the best way for a Not-A-Nerd-User to have a clear image about to do what, for everything in preferences. Now in Ventura even the strong users are confused.
I'm still a pro-Apple in everything, and when friends and a lot acquaintances ask me about which platform and computer to buy, I certainly tell them that the best solution is an Apple Mac.
I see your account and I realize that you are the 'Master Of The Knowledge' (when you don't attack people here). So, could you please give us your lights of knowledge about why the 'Ventura system settings' are better than 'Monterey System Preferences'?
Or at least why the 'Monterey System Preferences' are worst than 'Ventura settings'?
Cause if you don't have valid argument cases about that, you are just one of those who blindly follow what a company does, and that everything they do is divine written in stone.
Still, that's surely not an ideal option for most users, so I hope Apple finds a solution for Dropbox.
In the meantime it looks possible to create a simple Automator Action to copy/move files in various folders between drives. This may allow one to get Dropbox items on a limited internal drive onto an external drive with little fuss, save for the extra time to copy via USB/TB.
https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html
Seriously, I am a firm believer in submitting feedback. I did that a lot when the butterfly keyboard was alive and the SD card slot was absent. Guess what? They came back! So yeah, I do believe our feedback matters.
I refuse to upgrade macOS from Monterey to Ventura because of that bad UI alone. Snazzy Labs is with me. Are you?
Some things are not good enough to provoke us to be a switcher. Just because it is "inline with iPadOS" doesn't mean it is right or good for MacOS. Watch the Snazzy Labs video linked on page 1 of this thread for all the details of why the new System Settings UI is very BAD on macOS.
How exactly do you think a butterfly keyboard or lack of an SD card slot wold ever help create switchers?
PS: I watched that Snazzy Labs segment. Are you wanting me to ignore where he called the prior look a "very old very bad" design? I'm guessing you do. He can have issues with it. You can have issues with it. I happen to like both the old and new for different reasons and implore you to detail how a brand new System Settings app should look—not just a "I wish this was here" or "I wish they'd bring this back"—or at least show me another OS that has done better than macOS in this regard.