This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
Again, why do you believe that Quest will not have any sales and/or why Meta will decide to kill their Quest development and scrap all the units they're trying to sell?
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
Again, why do you believe that Quest will not have any sales and/or why Meta will decide to kill their Quest development and scrap all the units they're trying to sell?
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
What is there to prove the UI and the its performance or lack of says everything, no different than a Windows phone, a BlackBerry or a Nokia phone once the iPhone came out, all of them were dead men walking, which is why Google upon seeing the first iPhone changed their whole strategy, 180°.
Remember folks, this is just an early prototype of the eventual "Apple iGlasses". This one built for programmers and developers to get their hands on something that works before they roll out the final product, which will look more like a pair of Ray-Ban's and you will wear all day! Maybe in five or six years.
5 or 6 years til iGlasses? HAH! Take a look at VR headsets from the early 90s--Apple's Vision Pro is somewhat smaller and certainly sleeker, but the form factor hasn't changed all that much in 30 years. All of the tech jammed into the Vision Pro isn't going to be miniaturized to fit into a glasses form factor withing 5, 6, 10 years or more. Also, glasses would give you the equivalent of a heads-up display, which isn't what the Vision Pro is about. VR or mixed VR only works if your field of vision is totally immersed by the VR screens. Too much "reality" and too much light leaks in through glasses to give you a VR experience.
I disagree. There are 2 things in my opinion that keep this item looking the same way. The screen and the battery.
Look at the progress of the iPhone. From 2097 til now and what apple has done with miniaturization of Face ID and the chip set and other components. If you look at the tear downs, you’ll see the only reason iPhone is “big” is because of the screen and the battery. The chip and the flex board and Face ID and cameras fit into a much more compact package.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
I expect that Meta will see sales with continued loss of pricing power as the value proposition declines. Comparative performance of Quest is very poor against the Vision Pro, and will only worsen on the Vision Pro release. Future Quest buyers will expect price concessions, even with performance upgrades.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
Again, why do you believe that Quest will not have any sales and/or why Meta will decide to kill their Quest development and scrap all the units they're trying to sell?
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
What is there to prove the UI and the its performance or lack of says everything, no different than a Windows phone, a BlackBerry or a Nokia phone once the iPhone came out, all of them were dead men walking, which is why Google upon seeing the first iPhone changed their whole strategy, 180°.
Are you incapable or understanding something this basic or do you really see the world as binary with a heavy dose of exaggeration and hyperbole attached to basic business principles?
Note that Blackberry is still not "dead" as you claimed and while their business is a far cry from what it once was they still exist as a company, but to reiterate my original point to your foolishness, their revenue and profit rose dramatically in 2007 and peaked in 2012 with the Blackberry phone BECAUSE of the iPhone bringing a positive eye to the smartphone market for the average person—not in spite of, as you claim—and it wasn't until just 5 years ago that they were at revenue levels below what they were pre-iPhone. Of course, this is all above your consideration based on this fucking conversation where you claim that Meta will not have any more Quest sales because the $3500 Apple Vision Pro was announced for a 2024 release.
This thing seems like a neat, fun thing to have, but not essential.
I could see it getting more adoption were it a pair of glasses. But as it is, it’s a VR/AR headset. Just not the way I want to work - or even play.
And having some heavy thing on your head just isn’t going to be conducive to much time spent.
The really strange thing is Apple wanted to show that it can one-up everyone else by having the computer in the headset. That’s great and everything, but there’s still a big problem:
the headset is still tethered to an external device - a battery pack. Other competitors tether their devices too - to computers and consoles and power.
And that’s the bite here. If you’re going to tether to something, might as well go full turkey and make some gains in the headset itself. Allow the computing and power to both be done on the tethered device.
That way, the headset can be much lighter, slimmer, and perhaps just be a pair of sealed sunglasses instead of a scuba lookalike - with optional top head strap. Seriously.
The better thing would be to have had this thing as a pair of sunglasses with actual pass through display (no cameras needed) and airplay the visuals from your Mac, iPhone, etc.
every Mac user would have one at that point. It would be lightweight, not require crazy head strap contraptions from the 1970s, and be much lower cost. Every Mac user would buy one. It would be called the Apple Vision.
Then, Apple could push it and release a pro version that was standalone. Then a Max that was for the true nerds among us.
But the idea that even after all of the investment and software dev, it’s STILL just a big ol’ headset that is STRAPPED to your noggin and also requires you to WEAR THE BATTERY AND CABLE just means it all didn’t amount to much in the real world. It’s basically the same as everybody else with better graphics and more thoughtfulness in the OS.
It seems much more like a concept than a final product.
Apple really did make the best headset. It’s just that headsets aren’t really that great.
Hopefully they can get back to making the Mac great again.
Somebody wearing a device capable of video recording, facing my direction, is like a person pointing it's phone at me. The difference is, that you can recognize the person holding the phone that way, that it's probably recording.. and you can make your choice stepping out of that space, or ask the person like what's going on. While with the person wearing headset, you can't tell. You should always assume he does. I'm not seeing any defensible people using such device in the public space. I would be rigorously asking them to put it off, no matter how they will be proclaiming they're not recording, or object mesh scanning, or if Apple will make some green dot appearing on the exterior. And I will be as rigorous, as when I met a guy with google glass, sitting in front of me in public transport. Count with some broken, hell expensive glasses and try to sue.
Apple Vision Pro is great, impressive product, for minor community of in-house users.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
Again, why do you believe that Quest will not have any sales and/or why Meta will decide to kill their Quest development and scrap all the units they're trying to sell?
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
What is there to prove the UI and the its performance or lack of says everything, no different than a Windows phone, a BlackBerry or a Nokia phone once the iPhone came out, all of them were dead men walking, which is why Google upon seeing the first iPhone changed their whole strategy, 180°.
Are you incapable or understanding something this basic or do you really see the world as binary with a heavy dose of exaggeration and hyperbole attached to basic business principles?
Note that Blackberry is still not "dead" as you claimed and while their business is a far cry from what it once was they still exist as a company, but to reiterate my original point to your foolishness, their revenue and profit rose dramatically in 2007 and peaked in 2012 with the Blackberry phone BECAUSE of the iPhone bringing a positive eye to the smartphone market for the average person—not in spite of, as you claim—and it wasn't until just 5 years ago that they were at revenue levels below what they were pre-iPhone. Of course, this is all above your consideration based on this fucking conversation where you claim that Meta will not have any more Quest sales because the $3500 Apple Vision Pro was announced for a 2024 release.
Two more testimonials posted by people who have experienced a Apple Vision Pro, with Apple’s ability to create a whole new ecosystem, combined with the ability to design, and engineer, both SOC’s and OS, Meta’s Quest has no chance, Apple has re-shuffle the deck again with a Apple Vision Pro.
All five incumbents in the smartphone industry at the time we’re dead men walking, and it took them three years after Jan 2007 for them to realize it, that whatever it was that they were doing wasn’t going to work anymore. BlackBerry and Microsoft tried to hold on, for about five years, and if you read up on the history of BlackBerry, you can understand why, Philipe fought on, Blackberry had to fight tooth and nail in court, and with governmental agencies, to finally put all the pieces together to even release a BlackBerry. (one of their adversaries in court was Qualcomm)
Google, however, not being one of the incumbents (a newcomer) and having Eric Schmidt embedded in a strategic location , did a 180° turn overnight. (wonder why?)
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Why don't you explain why you don't think Meta's sales have now dissolved into nothing instead of pushing a YouTuber's video without any explanation. I went into detail as to why I believe that Meta will now sell more Quest units than every before for a certain timeframe as a result of Apple Vision Pro, but you're saying they will no longer have sales or dissolve that entire department and product category, I guess.
The person in charge of the software (and the entire software team) for the Quest, look at the video the UI interface is complete crap, what do you think gonna happen next monday or maybe this weekend? Zuckerberg‘s gonna hug him and say nice job dudes thumbs up?
Again, why do you believe that Quest will not have any sales and/or why Meta will decide to kill their Quest development and scrap all the units they're trying to sell?
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
What is there to prove the UI and the its performance or lack of says everything, no different than a Windows phone, a BlackBerry or a Nokia phone once the iPhone came out, all of them were dead men walking, which is why Google upon seeing the first iPhone changed their whole strategy, 180°.
Are you incapable or understanding something this basic or do you really see the world as binary with a heavy dose of exaggeration and hyperbole attached to basic business principles?
Note that Blackberry is still not "dead" as you claimed and while their business is a far cry from what it once was they still exist as a company, but to reiterate my original point to your foolishness, their revenue and profit rose dramatically in 2007 and peaked in 2012 with the Blackberry phone BECAUSE of the iPhone bringing a positive eye to the smartphone market for the average person—not in spite of, as you claim—and it wasn't until just 5 years ago that they were at revenue levels below what they were pre-iPhone. Of course, this is all above your consideration based on this fucking conversation where you claim that Meta will not have any more Quest sales because the $3500 Apple Vision Pro was announced for a 2024 release.
Two more testimonials posted by people who have experienced a Apple Vision Pro, with Apple’s ability to create a whole new ecosystem, combined with the ability to design, and engineer, both SOC’s and OS, Meta’s Quest has no chance, Apple has re-shuffle the deck again with a Apple Vision Pro.
All five incumbents in the smartphone industry at the time we’re dead men walking, and it took them three years after Jan 2007 for them to realize it, that whatever it was that they were doing wasn’t going to work anymore. BlackBerry and Microsoft tried to hold on, for about five years, and if you read up on the history of BlackBerry, you can understand why, Philipe fought on, Blackberry had to fight tooth and nail in court, and with governmental agencies, to finally put all the pieces together to even release a BlackBerry. (one of their adversaries in court was Qualcomm)
Google, however, not being one of the incumbents (a newcomer) and having Eric Schmidt embedded in a strategic location , did a 180° turn overnight. (wonder why?)
Apple both redefined the smartphone market and took it from being a geek toy/business tool to being a device that everyone could benefit from, but as I've proved time and time again, Blackberry's sales IMPROVED greatly AFTER the iPhone's announcement and BECAUSE of its existence, not in spite of it. Meta will likely have a similar path with unit sales because of Apple Vision Pro no matter how many times you claim they will have no more sales ever again.
Additionally, you note that Google shifted how they were creating a smartphone OS to follow the path created by the iPhone and they took up the vacuum left behind by the iPhone's entrance into the market. As I said earlier, if there's a need for a cheaper smartphone because of the iPhone then there will be a market for less expensive VR/AR because of Vision Pro. That could be Google again, but it also could be Meta or someone else who follows Apple's lead and makes something similar but much worse in every way and cheaper. The market will not simply be Apple Vision Pro at 100% of the market.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Clickbait nonsense. You don't kill a competitor with a product announcement, you kill them with consistent delivery and taking away their customers.
Ridiculously premature to be making such proclamations, and more fool you for buying into it. Maybe the Quest will die, but right here right now they're the market leading incumbent. Beyond moronic to pronounce them dead when Apple has yet to ship a single unit.
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Clickbait nonsense. You don't kill a competitor with a product announcement, you kill them with consistent delivery and taking away their customers.
Ridiculously premature to be making such proclamations, and more fool you for buying into it. Maybe the Quest will die, but right here right now they're the market leading incumbent. Beyond moronic to pronounce them dead when Apple has yet to ship a single unit.
The Quest has had the rug pulled out from underneath them, they have been disrupted, and there’s nothing they can do between now and early next year, the physical product has not been shipped, but Apple has laid the ground work across all of their existing devices, whether it be, the OS, the introduction of LiDAR, or the development software.
Apple has torpedoed the Quest, every day, every week, every month leading up to Apple release of the Vision Pro, nails will be hammered into the coffin of the Quest, these nails will be announcements of joy by Apple developers, who have moved their app over seamlessly into the Vision Pro ecosystem, these nails will continue long after the release of the Vision Pro to the public, because the public will join in and hammer even more nails into the Quest’s dead corpse.
P.S. That skeleton avatar that was created by Zuckerberg of himself fits quite well…..
This is another Apple buying opportunity, just that simple. Most people are still in the dark about the Apple Vision Pro……. But Zuckerberg isn’t he is slowly coming to the realization that the Quest is over.
I don’t think Quest is over. Just as cheap Android phones and cheap Windows PCs have a place in the market, so will cheap VR solutions.
Neither the Meta nor Quest branding will be what buyers look to for state of the art VR solutions, and Meta will now (likely) never be able to corner the market ifor high-end VR or AR, bo matter how much money they throw at it while Apple gets a healthy profit from their investment and likely the only company making it a viable product, which will just further more advancements for Apple.
if anything, Quest will get a sales boost BECAUSE of Apple Vision Pro as it puts a spotlight on VR. The same happened to the Blackberry. It was clearly the beginning of the end for them, but they had they had their best sales AFTER the iPhone was on the market. Partially because they were pushing their clearly inferior products to carriers almost nothing, but also because it put a spotlight on the smartphone market.
Clickbait nonsense. You don't kill a competitor with a product announcement, you kill them with consistent delivery and taking away their customers.
Ridiculously premature to be making such proclamations, and more fool you for buying into it. Maybe the Quest will die, but right here right now they're the market leading incumbent. Beyond moronic to pronounce them dead when Apple has yet to ship a single unit.
The Quest has had the rug pulled out from underneath them, they have been disrupted, and there’s nothing they can do between now and early next year, the physical product has not been shipped, but Apple has laid the ground work across all of their existing devices, whether it be, the OS, the introduction of LiDAR, or the development software.
Apple has torpedoed the Quest, every day, every week, every month leading up to Apple release of the Vision Pro, nails will be hammered into the coffin of the Quest, these nails will be announcements of joy by Apple developers, who have moved their app over seamlessly into the Vision Pro ecosystem, these nails will continue long after the release of the Vision Pro to the public, because the public will join in and hammer even more nails into the Quest’s dead corpse.
P.S. That skeleton avatar that was created by Zuckerberg of himself fits quite well…..
Think of how annoying it is when someone announces a product and the media calls it an "Apple [name] killer." It's always comes across poorly, but you didn't just say that Quest is going to be killed by Apple, but that Quest is already dead.
Despite trying to lead you to a reasonable observation and statement you've now doubled down with even more statements about nails being hammered in coffins. 🤦♂️
At first I thought, good, I only use glasses for reading, not distance. So I shouldn’t need the Zeiss add-ons. Then I thought, wait, you’re not REALLY looking in the distance—just virtually. You’re really looking at something (a tiny screen) about an inch away from your eye. How can anybody focus on that? Guess I’ll have to wait for a try-on/fitting session at my local Apple Store next year to find out whether I’ll need the lenses or not. Wondering how much they’ll add to the cost.
I have the same problem, and it probably is going to cost the same as getting a new pair of glasses, however, I did notice some of the You Tubers, who got a chance to use the Vision pro wore glasses and had to take them off to test out the system.
There are companies now that make prescription inserts for every major headset, and a few of the minor ones. They almost all cost less than $100. If Apple's cost significantly more than that, it will be because Apple has made it technically or legally hard to duplicate, so they don't have to worry about competition. Unless there is something about such an insert that is patentable (I honestly don't know), I fully expect one of the existing companies to be producing inserts even before the device is released.
And for Apple that company's name is Zeiss. Apple announced that partnership in the keynote.
And unless Apple has somehow patented a shape that looks a good bit like a bunch of other headset lens insert shape (based on what was shown in the keynote), and they make the price competitive with similar items already on the market, I fully expect Zeiss to not be alone in making inserts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Wc0cEQs_M 7:22 into the video……a Scott Forstall moment reminiscent of Apple Maps, actually worse.
Pointing out that they are a sub-par VR experience isn't proof that they are "dead", as you put it. As previously mentioned, Blackberrys sold more units after the iPhone was announced and for several years after its release BECAUSE the iPhone gave the nice category gravitas. I expect Apple Vision Pro to do the same for Meta Quest and none of that is me claiming that Meta Quest is a good experience, but I don't think Android or Windows is either, but that's another discussion about what will fill in the non-Apple path Apple makes. It may even be a revamped Meta device that takes up the mantel as the cheaper, other option.
Note that Blackberry is still not "dead" as you claimed and while their business is a far cry from what it once was they still exist as a company, but to reiterate my original point to your foolishness, their revenue and profit rose dramatically in 2007 and peaked in 2012 with the Blackberry phone BECAUSE of the iPhone bringing a positive eye to the smartphone market for the average person—not in spite of, as you claim—and it wasn't until just 5 years ago that they were at revenue levels below what they were pre-iPhone. Of course, this is all above your consideration based on this fucking conversation where you claim that Meta will not have any more Quest sales because the $3500 Apple Vision Pro was announced for a 2024 release.
the headset is still tethered to an external device - a battery pack. Other competitors tether their devices too - to computers and consoles and power.
every Mac user would have one at that point. It would be lightweight, not require crazy head strap contraptions from the 1970s, and be much lower cost. Every Mac user would buy one. It would be called the Apple Vision.
It seems much more like a concept than a final product.
I'm not seeing any defensible people using such device in the public space. I would be rigorously asking them to put it off, no matter how they will be proclaiming they're not recording, or object mesh scanning, or if Apple will make some green dot appearing on the exterior. And I will be as rigorous, as when I met a guy with google glass, sitting in front of me in public transport. Count with some broken, hell expensive glasses and try to sue.
Apple Vision Pro is great, impressive product, for minor community of in-house users.
Google, however, not being one of the incumbents (a newcomer) and having Eric Schmidt embedded in a strategic location
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWrO76Vd0mU Tom’s Guide…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMpX3pUqRo Matti Haapoja Film Maker
Additionally, you note that Google shifted how they were creating a smartphone OS to follow the path created by the iPhone and they took up the vacuum left behind by the iPhone's entrance into the market. As I said earlier, if there's a need for a cheaper smartphone because of the iPhone then there will be a market for less expensive VR/AR because of Vision Pro. That could be Google again, but it also could be Meta or someone else who follows Apple's lead and makes something similar but much worse in every way and cheaper. The market will not simply be Apple Vision Pro at 100% of the market.
Ridiculously premature to be making such proclamations, and more fool you for buying into it. Maybe the Quest will die, but right here right now they're the market leading incumbent. Beyond moronic to pronounce them dead when Apple has yet to ship a single unit.
Despite trying to lead you to a reasonable observation and statement you've now doubled down with even more statements about nails being hammered in coffins. 🤦♂️