iPhone 16 & iPhone 16 Pro -- What Apple's prototypes say is coming

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in iPhone edited August 20

Apple's iPhone 16 is less than a month away. Here's what's actually known about the upcoming model based on prototypes and leaked internal designs.

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Apple's iPhone 16 range is set to usher in a series of meaningful hardware improvements and features



As the iPhone 16 range inches closer to launch, rumors about the new iPhone lineup continue to emerge. With the rise of social media, it's become easy for just about anyone to disseminate claims and rumors about unreleased Apple products.

Since rumors often come from different sources with varying levels of credibility, it becomes difficult for the average user to know what to expect from a future Apple product. To make things easier for our readers, we've created a carefully curated list of new iPhone features based on verifiable information from people that we believe have first-hand knowledge.

AppleInsider has spoken to people familiar with Apple's internal prototypes and pre-production designs of the iPhone 16 range. Based on our findings, here's what we can expect from the iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, iPhone 16 Pro, and iPhone 16 Pro Max.

As mentioned previously, this article focuses only on information AppleInsider is able to independently verify. While it may not be all-encompassing, it provides our most accurate insight into the iPhone 16 lineup.

The iPhone 16 is getting an all-new Capture button with force-sensor technology



With the iPhone 15 range, Apple introduced curved edges and an all-new titanium alloy for the more expensive Pro models. The iPhone 16 lineup is expected to build upon these stylistic choices through the integration of new hardware features.

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The iPhone 16 range of devices will receive a new capacitive Capture button with force-sensor technology



One such addition is the introduction of an all-new Capture button, which is expected to debut across the entire iPhone 16 range. People familiar with the matter have told AppleInsider that Apple has tested this button on both the base model iPhone 16 as well as the larger iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max.

The existence of the Capture button, known internally under the codename Project Nova, was revealed in a September 2023 report. The article unveiled key details surrounding the project, such as the position of the button, its functionality and associated hardware components.

Prototype units of the iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, iPhone 16 Pro, and iPhone 16 Pro Max all feature the Capture Button on the right side of the device, below the power button. This is roughly where the mmWave cutout can be seen on current iPhone models sold within the United States.

Because of this, Apple has moved the mmWave cutout to the opposite side, meaning that iPhone 16 range will feature a mmWave cutout located below the volume buttons. Of course, this change only applies to US-market devices that feature mmWave hardware and does not apply to devices produced for sale in other regions.

What will the Capture button look like, and what will it be able to do?



Design-wise, the Capture button is unique in the fact that it's flush with the frame. It does not stick out the same way the power or volume buttons do.

In terms of functionality, the Capture button brings with it features that are not currently found on the remaining buttons of the iPhone 16 range or the buttons of its more recent predecessors.

Based on the button's internal name and its overall position, it's apparent that the Capture button is a camera-related button. This indicates that it will enable additional functionality in the area of photography and video recording.

The goal of Project Nova was to introduce an all-new capacitive button to the iPhone 16. The Capture button will be able to recognize gestures, allowing users to swipe to zoom or navigate between photo and video mode, for instance.

The new button is also pressure-sensitive. People familiar with the matter have told AppleInsider that the Capture button features "force-sensing technology," meaning that it will be able to recognize different degrees of pressure applied and later use this information. Users could have the option to press lightly on the button to focus or apply more pressure to take a photo, for example.

The Action button will no longer be a Pro-exclusive



For the standard iPhone 16, known under the project codename DeLorean and device identifier D47, Apple has introduced another button-related improvement. The multi-purpose Action button will finally make its way to the base model with the release of the iPhone 16.

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The base model iPhone 16 will receive the Action button currently found on the iPhone 15 Pro



The Action Button is a user-configurable button first introduced in 2023 with the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max. Unlike the single-purpose mute switch that it replaced, the Action Button can be configured to perform a pre-defined action selected by the user whenever it is pressed.

For instance, users can set up their Action Button to open the Camera app or toggle the device's flashlight, use it to start recording a voice memo, and much more.

Apple wants to make this hardware feature available to more devices, and the iPhone 16 is first in line for the Action button upgrade. According to people familiar with Apple's hardware development, the Action button is also expected to make its way to the fourth-generation iPhone SE, set for release in early 2025.

The Action button can be found even on the earliest prototypes of the base model iPhone 16. Initially, the iPhone 16 was also meant to receive a unified haptic volume button, developed as part of Project Bongo, though this idea has since been abandoned.

The standard iPhone 16 is getting a new look, thanks to its vertically aligned rear cameras



The base model iPhone 16 will also receive a significant change to the rear camera alignment. Unlike the diagonal layout found on the iPhone 15, the device will feature vertically aligned rear cameras.

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The iPhone 16 will have a new look thanks to the vertical alignment of the rear cameras



As revealed in a December 2023 report, Apple experimented with at least three different prototype designs. Apple's earliest prototypes featured camera bump designs that resembled previous iPhones, such as the 2020 iPhone 12 and the 2017 iPhone X.

In February of 2024, it was revealed that the company had settled on a final design for the iPhone 16 backplate. The final design features a slim, pill-shaped camera bump with two separate lenses aligned vertically.

Arranging the rear cameras vertically will allow for a new feature on the base model iPhone 16. The updated camera alignment will make Spatial Video recording possible while simultaneously giving the device a new look.

Spatial Video, originally introduced with the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max in 2023, is a form of immersive 3D video recording. With Spatial Video, users can record their favorite moments in three dimensions and play them back on their Apple Vision Pro headset.

The Spatial Video capture functionality is only available on the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max. The feature is not available on the base model iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, as these devices have a diagonal rear camera layout.

With the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, the Ultra Wide camera is located above the main camera. The base model iPhone 16 will have its rear cameras arranged in the same way, making Spatial Video possible.

The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are getting bigger this year



While the base model iPhone 16 will maintain the same 6.1-inch display size of the iPhone 15, both Pro models will receive an increase of roughly 0.2 inches in overall display size.

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The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro will feature larger displays compared to their predecessors



Preliminary dimensions for both devices, published in September of 2023, reveal that the iPhone 16 Pro will feature a 6.27-inch display, while the iPhone 16 Pro Max is expected to feature a 6.85-inch panel. Apple will likely round those numbers up to 6.3 and 6.9 inches, respectively.

The published dimensions reveal that the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max, or at least pre-production prototypes of the devices, are also somewhat wider than their iPhone 15 range counterparts. The width of the devices appears to match that of the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max, respectively.

This increase in dimensions will allow Apple to incorporate a tetraprism telephoto camera into the smaller iPhone 16 Pro, making it available on both Pro models in the 2024 iPhone range.

Currently, the tetraprism-equipped telephoto camera is only available on the larger iPhone 15 Pro Max, where it offers 5x optical zoom and 25x digital zoom. Earlier models, such as the iPhone 14 Pro Max, were limited to 3x optical zoom, meaning that the tetraprism telephoto camera presents a significant improvement.

With Apple's iPhone 16 range, the feature will be available on both iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max. The addition of this feature will lead to improved optical zoom, as the tetraprism-enhanced telephoto camera contains a folded glass structure that reflects light four times over, as is the case with the telephoto camera on the current iPhone 15 Pro Max.

The entire iPhone 16 range is expected to get Apple's latest chip



For the past two years, with the iPhone 14 and iPhone 15, Apple has equipped its base model iPhones with older hardware, making its latest system-on-chip exclusive to the Pro models. The iPhone 16 range is expected to break this established pattern in favor of something new.

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The entire iPhone 16 range is expected to receive a new system-on-chip this year



A December 2023 report revealed that early iOS 18 code contained references to four unreleased iPhones, all of which are powered by the same general chip. The as of yet unreleased system-on-chip is known under the identifier t8140, and is expected to be used across the entire iPhone 16 lineup -- base models included.

More recently, AppleInsider has learned of two codenames for the t8140 - Tahiti and Tupai, suggesting that Apple has developed two variants of the same chip for use in different devices within the iPhone 16 range.

The more powerful version, known under the codename Tahiti, will be used in the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max, while the iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, and iPhone SE 4 are expected to use the version of the chip codenamed Tupai. It's possible that Apple will choose to brand these chips as A18 and A18 Pro, which would be an easy way of distinguishing them while also continuing the Pro branding introduced with the A17 Pro.

The chips themselves are expected to feature significant improvements to the neural engine, which will allow Apple to implement more hardware-intensive Apple Intelligence features in the near future. RAM improvements over the standard A16 are also expected, as Apple Intelligence features require at least 8GB of unified memory to function.

Is the iPhone 16 range a worthwhile upgrade?



The iPhone 16 range brings with it multiple new features, making it an arguably compelling upgrade for users of older iPhones. This is especially true for the base model iPhone 16.

Upgrading from the standard iPhone 15 or iPhone 14, users will receive an all-new Capture Button, an Action button in place of the mute switch, increased processing power in the form of the A18 chip, along with a new vertical camera arrangement.

The aforementioned A18 system-on-chip could be considered one of the main reasons to upgrade since it is likely to usher in Apple Intelligence support for the base model iPhone 16. Currently, Apple Intelligence features, such as AI-powered email summarization and image generation, are only available on the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, as far as iPhones are concerned.

Users of the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max will be able to take advantage of even larger displays for a better content consumption experience. This is in addition to the previously-mentioned Capture button and tetraprism camera improvements, which will make the devices even better for photography and video capturing.

For some, though, rumors about the 2025 iPhone 17 range, or claims of alleged foldable iPhone may mean that it's not time for an upgrade just yet.



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  • Reply 1 of 33
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,608member
    Project Nova! Force Sensor Technology! Wow, sounds super impressive, very techy...

    Unless you understand what they intend offering is the iPhone version of a very UN-techy and decades-old camera shutter button where a half-press focuses (or refocuses) and the full press takes the photo or starts video. 
    It seems hardly worthy of an Apple "Project" moniker, where something like Project Purple or Project Titan springs to mind. Those were Apple Projects. 

    But long live "Project Bongo". You will not be forgotten.  /s
    williamh
  • Reply 2 of 33
    gatorguy said:
    Project Nova! Force Sensor Technology! Wow, sounds super impressive, very techy...

    Unless you understand what they intend offering is the iPhone version of a very UN-techy and decades-old camera shutter button where a half-press focuses (or refocuses) and the full press takes the photo or starts video. 
    It seems hardly worthy of an Apple "Project" moniker, where something like Project Purple or Project Titan springs to mind. Those were Apple Projects. 

    It wouldn't be Apple if they used a century old industry standard name like "shutter" for a button that takes pictures, now would it? 🤣

    muthuk_vanalingamgatorguywilliamlondon
  • Reply 3 of 33
    My 12 Mini is feeling its age especially its lousy battery life. 
  • Reply 4 of 33
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,608member
    My 12 Mini is feeling its age especially its lousy battery life. 
    My iPhone 11 battery life isn't what it used to be, but still acceptable. I can wait until next year when I expect there will be substantial improvements. This year's 16's are more of an iteration with a pinkie promise that a bunch of AI features and Siri improvements are coming sometime in 2025. The iPhone 17 will come with them active and operating. 
    edited August 20
  • Reply 5 of 33
    I was considering upgrading from my iPhone 13 Pro to an iPhone 16 Pro.
    Now, maybe not, especially if it’s going to get bigger. 

    I have nothing negative to say about my 13 Pro.
    It’s got 1TB and battery life is perfectly fine.

    I sometimes carry a Zendure SuperMini 10,000mAh power bank, but rarely need to recharge during the day. 
    Amazon has white ones for $9! Just got a second one!


  • Reply 6 of 33
    thttht Posts: 5,620member
    Is the capture button a mechanical button? Like Touch ID Standby/Power button on iPads, but flush?

    From the article, sounds like it is force sensing touch surface. And no mention of haptics?
  • Reply 7 of 33
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,608member
    tht said:
    Is the capture button a mechanical button? Like Touch ID Standby/Power button on iPads, but flush?

    From the article, sounds like it is force sensing touch surface. And no mention of haptics?
    Capacitive, and with feedback haptics.  That's assuming it made it into the final build, which it presumably did. 
  • Reply 8 of 33
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,296member
    If Apple can execute on what they presented at WWDC 2024 with Apple Intelligence and I think they can in comparison to their mixed up currently fumbling and bumbling competition I think they will do very well in the coming year. Particularly if they can deliver a one two punch with the release of the new M4 Mac computers, now is the time.
  • Reply 9 of 33
    thttht Posts: 5,620member
    gatorguy said:
    tht said:
    Is the capture button a mechanical button? Like Touch ID Standby/Power button on iPads, but flush?

    From the article, sounds like it is force sensing touch surface. And no mention of haptics?
    Capacitive, and with feedback haptics.  That's assuming it made it into the final build, which it presumably did. 
    Either way, hopefully Apple has a method to prevent accidental touches/presses.

    Accidental screenshots is pretty ease with the existing buttons, ever since they moved the power/standby button to side, and now there is are two more multi-functional buttons.
  • Reply 10 of 33
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    1. a memory increase over the 15 Pro. 8Gb still. Enough to last 5 years of expanding AI local models and OS updates.  Not so sure. 17 series rumoured to be 12Gb, and new pixel 9 Pro is 16Gb. Even the budget model 9 series is 12Gb. 

    2.  At least one of the cameras will remain a 12MP one. Probably the selfie one. Why? One for the 17 Pro apparently. New Pixel 9 Pro has ~50MP for all cameras. 

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    4. AI that matches the competition at launch. (Some don’t care, but since you are paying top whack your expectations should be high compared to the competition). 

    5. Notch replacement. You might not notice it much but I don’t see a huge cut out on Pixel or Galaxy phones , and they can still do Face ID equivalent plus they have ultrasonic finger touch as well (now fine & fast)

    other notable mentions … - promotion screens at the lower end like Android has had for probably 3yrs plus now. 
    - storage options that don’t nickel and dime you to get off the base model. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly .. that’s not saying as much as it used to when you look at the competition. If only it wasn’t such a pain to switch to & learn android. 

    williamlondonmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 11 of 33
    thttht Posts: 5,620member
    lewchenko said:
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    1. a memory increase over the 15 Pro. 8Gb still. Enough to last 5 years of expanding AI local models and OS updates.  Not so sure. 17 series rumoured to be 12Gb, and new pixel 9 Pro is 16Gb. Even the budget model 9 series is 12Gb. 

    2.  At least one of the cameras will remain a 12MP one. Probably the selfie one. Why? One for the 17 Pro apparently. New Pixel 9 Pro has ~50MP for all cameras. 

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    4. AI that matches the competition at launch. (Some don’t care, but since you are paying top whack your expectations should be high compared to the competition). 

    5. Notch replacement. You might not notice it much but I don’t see a huge cut out on Pixel or Galaxy phones , and they can still do Face ID equivalent plus they have ultrasonic finger touch as well (now fine & fast)

    other notable mentions … - promotion screens at the lower end like Android has had for probably 3yrs plus now. 
    - storage options that don’t nickel and dime you to get off the base model. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly .. that’s not saying as much as it used to when you look at the competition. If only it wasn’t such a pain to switch to & learn android. 

    Just switch to Android. That is the best possible feedback to Apple that their products aren't good enough for you.

    I'm not trolling you. Buy what makes you happy.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 12 of 33
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,081member
    lewchenko said:

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    Amusing, just not true.

    The iPhone 7 Plus, the closest possible comparison to the 15 Pro, only had a 5.5 inch display, dual lens camera and weighed 188 grams. The 15 Pro has a 6.1 inch display, a tri-lens camera system, a bigger battery and weighs... wait for it... 187 grams. 

    If we look at the standard iPhone 7, it only had 4.7 inch screen size plus dual cameras and weighed 138 grams. The closest comparison to that would be the iPhone 13 Mini, which had a 5.4" display (15% larger than the 7) and a bigger battery and weighed... wait for it... 140 grams. 

    Turns out that the old iPhones of yore were the real porkers, weighing as much as their modern iPhone counterparts, but with smaller displays and batteries, plus inferior cameras. 


    stompywilliamlondon
  • Reply 13 of 33
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,683member
    I've encountered a few bumpy roads jumping on board with first-generation Apple products. In all of these cases I've had a bit of regret for not waiting at least one more iteration to benefit from Apple's lessons learned, feedback, and large scale deployment prompting them to smooth out the rough spots and wrinkles and refine the basics. First iPad, first aluminum iMac, first Apple Watch, first HomePod, first iPod Touch, first iPad mini (to a less degree), 1st Apple Magic Mouse, etc., all fell into this pattern. In most cases I came back and bought the second of third-plus iteration, but never gave up because I saw the value in what Apple was trying to do and trusted they would stay on the path of continuous improvement. In a few cases, like the iPad Touch 2, the iPad 2, and the slim-front-humpy-back iMac 27", the later generations were spectacular.

    I'm not saying that Apple always misses the mark on their first generation products because some of them have done very well, like the first iPad Air, the first Retina equipped MacBook Pro 13", the Magic Trackpad, Mac Studio, etc. Of course the subsequent generations of most of the bumpy-1st's have gone on to get better and better over time, well, maybe not the Magic Mouse as much as I'd like it to.

    So ... the big question here for me is whether the iPhone 16s are the 1st generation "Apple Intelligence" iPhones (AI iPhones) or whether the iPhone 15s will be post facto declared to be the first "AI iPhone?" If the iPhone 15s are able to run all Apple Intelligence features without any restrictions then perhaps jumping on iPhone 16 isn't really taking another leap of faith on a 1st generation Apple product. I'm still leaning more in the direction of the iPhone 16s being the true 1st generation "AI iPhones." Of course this may not matter to a ton of potential buyers because an iPhone is an iPhone and iPhones are always a smart purchase. Even if some of the Apple Intelligence features are a little raw or unrefined at first on the iPhone 15s and iPhone 16s, most of the potholes should be able to be filled via software updates.

    No matter how you look at it, if you want to jump on the Apple Intelligence bandwagon with both feet, the iPhone 16s will probably deliver the best possible AI experience.  The iPhone 15s will be a half-step or full-step behind the iPhone 16s. A year from now, the iPhone 17s will probably blow the 15s and 16s out of the water in terms of the width, breadth, and performance of Apple Intelligence on an iPhone platform. That is of course subject to how well Apple Intelligence ensconces itself into iPhone users' personal relationship with their iPhones. The jury is still out on this because a very tiny percentage of prospective iPhone buyers have any understanding of what Apple Intelligence brings to their table, myself included, and I try to stay up to date on what's happening with Apple. 
    edited August 20
  • Reply 14 of 33
    tht said:
    lewchenko said:
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly …
    Just switch to Android. That is the best possible feedback to Apple that their products aren't good enough for you.
    Why would any of us willingly torture ourselves with generic Android dross? AND lose Apple system integration? 
    Classic cutting off of one’s nose to spite who? 

    One of the many major selling points of iPhone is it’s seamless integration with other Apple products. 
    Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods Pro and not, etc., etc.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 15 of 33
    “”For some, though, rumors about the 2025 iPhone 17range, or claims of alleged foldable iPhone may mean that it's not time for an upgrade just yet.””
    Stupid comment. There’s never a good time to upgrade as new models are only ever a year away. Just upgrade when the time is right for you. 
    tht
  • Reply 16 of 33
    thttht Posts: 5,620member
    dewme said:
    ...
    So ... the big question here for me is whether the iPhone 16s are the 1st generation "Apple Intelligence" iPhones (AI iPhones) or whether the iPhone 15s will be post facto declared to be the first "AI iPhone?" If the iPhone 15s are able to run all Apple Intelligence features without any restrictions then perhaps jumping on iPhone 16 isn't really taking another leap of faith on a 1st generation Apple product. I'm still leaning more in the direction of the iPhone 16s being the true 1st generation "AI iPhones." Of course this may not matter to a ton of potential buyers because an iPhone is an iPhone and iPhones are always a smart purchase. Even if some of the Apple Intelligence features are a little raw or unrefined at first on the iPhone 15s and iPhone 16s, most of the potholes should be able to be filled via software updates.

    No matter how you look at it, if you want to jump on the Apple Intelligence bandwagon with both feet, the iPhone 16s will probably deliver the best possible AI experience.  The iPhone 15s will be a half-step or full-step behind the iPhone 16s. A year from now, the iPhone 17s will probably blow the 15s and 16s out of the water in terms of the width, breadth, and performance of Apple Intelligence on an iPhone platform. That is of course subject to how well Apple Intelligence ensconces itself into iPhone users' personal relationship with their iPhones. The jury is still out on this because a very tiny percentage of prospective iPhone buyers have any understanding of what Apple Intelligence brings to their table, myself included, and I try to stay up to date on what's happening with Apple. 
    I wouldn't count on anything Apple Intelligence making a meaningful improvement on your computing experience in the near future. And, I doubt it will generate a bigger sales cycle.

    If you don't understand how it helps you, it means the people hyping it don't have an understanding how it helps people too. Therefore, be skeptical.

    From what we've seen so far, it's basically an advanced writing helper, image creation, audio/video creation tool. So, it may be useful to a certain niche of people, but basically not useful to the majority of the market. It goes right down the wheelhouse of today's media, and is getting much more hype due to that than it really deserves.

    Even for that niche, you really have to question whether people will continue to use it after the novelty wears off. Most of that niche wants to have their own voice, their own unique style for their creations. Creating their stuff with an LLM interpolator makes it generic, and gradually, people will recognize that for what it is. Just generic dreck.

    Eventually you'll have AI doctors and stuff like that. Like, an AI service that will diagnose and prescribe medicine or a course of action for you. Maybe in 5 years?
  • Reply 17 of 33
    thttht Posts: 5,620member
    tht said:
    lewchenko said:
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly …
    Just switch to Android. That is the best possible feedback to Apple that their products aren't good enough for you.
    Why would any of us willingly torture ourselves with generic Android dross? AND lose Apple system integration? 
    Classic cutting off of one’s nose to spite who? 

    One of the many major selling points of iPhone is it’s seamless integration with other Apple products. 
    Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods Pro and not, etc., etc.
    Just responding to a troll post. If certain features are important to people, they should really get a phone with those features. It's not hard.

    The 6 or 7 items listed is basically the same melange of criticisms for iPhones for 15 years now. iPhones have always had less RAM than competitors. Less cameras, less this of more that. It's the usual spec race that got Apple to say "specs don't matter". What matters is the user experience.

    Does the phone feel fast? Do the pictures look good? Does it do things users want? Is this or that feature something users really want? Hardware features all go to serve to answer these questions, and it is nothing but compromises. The big trick is putting in that right mix of features and suitable hardware+software to meet them. Apple obviously has a good track record of success here.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 18 of 33
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,608member
    tht said:
    tht said:
    lewchenko said:
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly …
    Just switch to Android. That is the best possible feedback to Apple that their products aren't good enough for you.
    Why would any of us willingly torture ourselves with generic Android dross? AND lose Apple system integration? 
    Classic cutting off of one’s nose to spite who? 

    One of the many major selling points of iPhone is it’s seamless integration with other Apple products. 
    Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods Pro and not, etc., etc.
    Just responding to a troll post. If certain features are important to people, they should really get a phone with those features. It's not hard...  It's the usual spec race that got Apple to say "specs don't matter". What matters is the user experience.
    Google actually says the same thing, they build phones designed for the user experience, not spec-humping. Yet apparently for some notable percentage of Apple users, specs do matter afterall, whether Apple or Google believes they shouldn't (Samsung doesn't weigh-in for some reason).

    There's no shortage of spec-sheet comparisons here at AppleInsider whenever an Apple competitor releases a new device, and those articles attract a lot of eyeballs and comments. 
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 19 of 33
    gatorguy said:
    tht said:
    tht said:
    lewchenko said:
    Best to mention what it’s not bringing to the table, but arguably should have these 5 things in the 16 pro series ….

    3. A diet. Yep , the pro phones are true porkers these days. Just go pick up an iPhone 6/7 series phone and feel that difference. Ah wait, next years 17 air / slim might give you that. 

    It will be the best iPhone yet, but honestly …
    Just switch to Android. That is the best possible feedback to Apple that their products aren't good enough for you.
    Why would any of us willingly torture ourselves with generic Android dross? AND lose Apple system integration? 
    Classic cutting off of one’s nose to spite who? 

    One of the many major selling points of iPhone is it’s seamless integration with other Apple products. 
    Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods Pro and not, etc., etc.
    Just responding to a troll post. If certain features are important to people, they should really get a phone with those features. It's not hard...  It's the usual spec race that got Apple to say "specs don't matter". What matters is the user experience.
    Google actually says the same thing, they build phones designed for the user experience, not spec-humping. Yet apparently for some notable percentage of Apple users, specs do matter afterall, whether Apple or Google believes they shouldn't (Samsung doesn't weigh-in for some reason).

    There's no shortage of spec-sheet comparisons here at AppleInsider whenever an Apple competitor releases a new device, and those articles attract a lot of eyeballs and comments. 
    Samsung doesn't weigh-in because their approach is all over the place. At the high end, their marketing team focusses the specs. And at the mid-range and low-end, they get beaten handily by Chinese OEMs on the specs. So they rely on software features, brand name, commission to sales people in the offline channels, paid reviewers etc in the mid-range and low-end segment.
    gatorguy
  • Reply 20 of 33
    schlackschlack Posts: 724member
    Another year, another miss for Apple. My iPhone 12 Mini will be four years old. It is two years past the point where I was willing to spend money to upgrade, yet still, there is no upgrade path that doesn't involve a giant phone. 
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