EU advocacy group sues Apple because other streaming music services hiked prices

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  • Reply 21 of 28
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,100member
    nubus said:
    chasm said:
    The European Commission works very hard at making Europe really unattractive to non-EU businesses. Apple is no angel, but the obvious bias in favour of Spotify is kind of ridiculous, but luckily they don't have a leg to stand on if this case goes to court, so my prediction will be that Apple will eventually prevail in this particular case.
    US just fined Visa and MasterCard $30 bn for charging shops too much and causing price increases. A judge found $30 bn wasn't enough. The case of App Store is similar and could very well go to courts in the US. US, EU, and most of the world have antitrust regulation in place. EU under Vestager was known for being all open markets to the point where unions gave her a statue of a raised middle finger (a statue she kept on display at her office). The next 5 years are likely to be protectionism just as we have seen from US. But this case... it could happen in US and would give us more competition and better pricing.

    That was not a fine, that was a settlement in a lawsuit that's been going on for over 10 years now. If Visa and MasterCard didn't offer this $30B to settle the case, the lawsuit could very well go on for another 10 years. The US government haven't found Visa and MasterCard guilty of anything yet. 



    ihatescreennameswilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 28
    croprcropr Posts: 1,140member
    Until Apple released the iPhone I doubt Spotify even had personal streaming as a viable proposition (if they even existed then). Given Apple have charged right from the start, Spotify could just have said “We don’t want to use your expensive delivery system” and done it themselves. But they didn’t. And now they complain (or at least some people are).
    They did exist. Spotify was founded in 2006, 2 years before the iOS App Store was launched.

    The Spotify service was launched as a Windows application, later came a Mac version and a Web version and the rest.  The users of Spotify requested a native iOS app iso the web basedapp, which Spotify built.    

    But the main issue for Spotify that Apple did not allow that the native iOS app could link to the existing Spotify payment processor, used for all the other versions.   This was a serious cost increase for Spotify, not only because of the Apple 30% cut, but also because suddenly their administration backend and their support channel had to incorporate the Apple iOS adminstrative handling.

    muthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondon
  • Reply 23 of 28
    Looks like the EU has been busy pretending they’re the Daleks and forcing Apple to “Obey!”
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 28
    Poor babies. Can’t afford €36 a year more to listen to their tunes from a third-party service on iOS. I mean, nobody likes a price rise, but these punters could afford an iPhone sometime in the last several years, and they’re complaining about €36?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 28
    Since the EU believes Apple should open up it entire ecosystem, I believe the US should demand all EU-based companies do the same.  Seimens, Philips, Audi, and VW.  Every European automaker should be forced to send cars to the US without radios, air conditioners, and other accessories so that American mid-tier companies would have a fair shake at producing these components.
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 26 of 28
    Well, you are all forgetting that this is Apple in Europe, where all the courts become kangaroo courts and deliver their verdicts based on the desired outcome, not the law. These plaintiffs will prevail because the EU will want them to prevail.
    Grow up please.
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 27 of 28

    chasm said:
    The European Commission works very hard at making Europe really unattractive to non-EU businesses. Apple is no angel, but the obvious bias in favour of Spotify is kind of ridiculous, but luckily they don't have a leg to stand on if this case goes to court, so my prediction will be that Apple will eventually prevail in this particular case.

    How much longer the company will put up with the constant anti-Apple antics of the EU when Google is SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE VIOLATING EVERY EU DIRECTIVE ON PRIVACY remains to be seen. Apple would hate to give up the EU market but I have a feeling the loss of some products and services in the EU because of untenable regulations is going to be part of their future, which makes me feel bad for innocent EU consumers.
    Weren’t pundits saying that the EU was anti-American businesses? Is it now only anti-Apple but they love Google and MS?
    muthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 28 of 28
    nubus said:
    chasm said:
    The European Commission works very hard at making Europe really unattractive to non-EU businesses. Apple is no angel, but the obvious bias in favour of Spotify is kind of ridiculous, but luckily they don't have a leg to stand on if this case goes to court, so my prediction will be that Apple will eventually prevail in this particular case.
    US just fined Visa and MasterCard $30 bn for charging shops too much and causing price increases. A judge found $30 bn wasn't enough. The case of App Store is similar and could very well go to courts in the US. US, EU, and most of the world have antitrust regulation in place. EU under Vestager was known for being all open markets to the point where unions gave her a statue of a raised middle finger (a statue she kept on display at her office). The next 5 years are likely to be protectionism just as we have seen from US. But this case... it could happen in US and would give us more competition and better pricing.
    What the credit card companies have done over the years in question isn’t remotely similar to the situation with the App Store. Read the case files, please. 
    watto_cobra
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