Trump confirms he reduced tariffs to help Tim Cook

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    As I said a long time ago, intelligent people are in charge snd apple will be ok. The president will have a way to navigate Apple through some difficult decidd add jobs. And it has come to pass. 

    Cook was wise to open the door of discussion dnd thr president has been wise in response. 

    I know it’s popular in this particular online space to detract from the president no matter what he does, but the fact is tarriffs are necessary -yet it’s sldd add o necessary to protect Americans and American companies. The idea is to put the pressure on other countries, particularly China - and not on American companies. 

    It’s not changing mindset. It’s continuing forward motion, msnuevering as needed. That’s only good stuff snd Apple is the better for it. As this year marks time for my iPhone upgrade and early next is my next Mac purchase, I am a pretty happy potential customer right about now. 
     Well said.  Most people do not comprehend what is going on with the tariff machinations.  I have said all along Trump will not harm Apple and other significant US companies. He is using very hard nosed and sometimes reckless tactics to get to his end goal.  
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  • Reply 22 of 30
    As I said a long time ago, intelligent people are in charge snd apple will be ok. The president will have a way to navigate Apple through some difficult decidd add jobs. And it has come to pass. 

    Cook was wise to open the door of discussion dnd thr president has been wise in response. 

    I know it’s popular in this particular online space to detract from the president no matter what he does, but the fact is tarriffs are necessary -yet it’s sldd add o necessary to protect Americans and American companies. The idea is to put the pressure on other countries, particularly China - and not on American companies. 

    It’s not changing mindset. It’s continuing forward motion, msnuevering as needed. That’s only good stuff snd Apple is the better for it. As this year marks time for my iPhone upgrade and early next is my next Mac purchase, I am a pretty happy potential customer right about now. 
     Well said.  Most people do not comprehend what is going on with the tariff machinations.  I have said all along Trump will not harm Apple and other significant US companies. He is using very hard nosed and sometimes reckless tactics to get to his end goal.  
    Yes, so well said. It's like poetry.

    But remind us what "his end goal" is.
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  • Reply 23 of 30
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,842member
    ilarynx said:
    This article helps to explain the small pockets of minions supporting the chaotic tariffs:

    The strange link between Trump’s tariffs and incel ideology

    Meet the lonely men who think the tariffs will get them girlfriends.

    https://apple.news/AjEvNnQFnTpKbDNMkKkowsA
    Interesting read. HRC's "basket of deplorables" comment continues to accurately describe Trump's base. 
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,097member

    Cook was once described by Steve Jobs as not being a "product person," but he's unquestionably a politician. He apparently kept the working relationship going with Trump before the last election, and he is confirmed to have personally donated $1 million to the president's inauguration.

    I'll do more than question it, I'll flat out assert that he is not a politician.

    Politicians (at least when the term is used pejoratively, as it seems to here) don't stand for anything, say whatever they need to say, and shift with the slightest breeze.

    That isn't Tim Cook. Exhibit 1: https://www.apple.com/diversity/ ;

    Perhaps we can agree that he is politically astute, but that doesn't make him a politician.
    I agree with your assertions. What Tim Cook is doing, at least when he's wearing his Tim Apple Super CEO suit, is not politics but doing everything he can to ensure the success of his company and all of its stakeholders. However, what Tim Apple does probably does not reflect what Tim Cook, the man, would do in order to maintain his own personal integrity, reputation, value system, and generally how to exist peacefully as a citizen of the world.

    The problem for Tim Cook is that every time the president mentions his name or insinuates a real connection with Tim Cook, the man, Tim takes a hit in the things that many people and especially Apple customers value in him, including his reputation and integrity. Tim Cook was hand picked to take the helm when Steve Jobs stepped back. That is a really big deal considering Steve Jobs is the one who restored Apple's reputation, integrity, competitiveness, differentiation from the crowded PC world, and a willingness to always make sure customers were delighted with the products he help bring to market. 

    The current president has significantly damaged the reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability of the United States. In the same way, every time another leader in the private sector gets anointed as a "True Trump Buddy" their reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability takes a big hit. In some cases it gets obliterated as we've seen with Elon Musk and Zuckerberg.

    Apple will pay a price for this, we just don't know how large or how fire-walled or DMZ'd it can be kept  between the real person and who they play when they step into their corporate role. 
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  • Reply 25 of 30
    Hey Tim, how does it feel to have a fascist fish hook in your butt?
    How is this post still up?  If there is going to be moderation, it’s obvious it only applies to certain viewpoints. Wow. 
    I agree with you on this post. You have to click "Flag this" option against the post, for a moderator to take a look at it. I just did it. I am fairly confident that it would be taken out.
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  • Reply 26 of 30
    Appleishappleish Posts: 777member
    Thus why my family has agreed to not buy Apple products for the next four years. If we need to replace something, we'll get it refurbished from a third party.
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    qwerty52qwerty52 Posts: 384member
    The question is: Why Tim Cook needs a help? He never needed before. 
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  • Reply 28 of 30
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    dewme said:

    Cook was once described by Steve Jobs as not being a "product person," but he's unquestionably a politician. He apparently kept the working relationship going with Trump before the last election, and he is confirmed to have personally donated $1 million to the president's inauguration.

    I'll do more than question it, I'll flat out assert that he is not a politician.

    Politicians (at least when the term is used pejoratively, as it seems to here) don't stand for anything, say whatever they need to say, and shift with the slightest breeze.

    That isn't Tim Cook. Exhibit 1: https://www.apple.com/diversity/ ;

    Perhaps we can agree that he is politically astute, but that doesn't make him a politician.
    I agree with your assertions. What Tim Cook is doing, at least when he's wearing his Tim Apple Super CEO suit, is not politics but doing everything he can to ensure the success of his company and all of its stakeholders. However, what Tim Apple does probably does not reflect what Tim Cook, the man, would do in order to maintain his own personal integrity, reputation, value system, and generally how to exist peacefully as a citizen of the world.

    The problem for Tim Cook is that every time the president mentions his name or insinuates a real connection with Tim Cook, the man, Tim takes a hit in the things that many people and especially Apple customers value in him, including his reputation and integrity. Tim Cook was hand picked to take the helm when Steve Jobs stepped back. That is a really big deal considering Steve Jobs is the one who restored Apple's reputation, integrity, competitiveness, differentiation from the crowded PC world, and a willingness to always make sure customers were delighted with the products he help bring to market. 

    The current president has significantly damaged the reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability of the United States. In the same way, every time another leader in the private sector gets anointed as a "True Trump Buddy" their reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability takes a big hit. In some cases it gets obliterated as we've seen with Elon Musk and Zuckerberg.

    Apple will pay a price for this, we just don't know how large or how fire-walled or DMZ'd it can be kept  between the real person and who they play when they step into their corporate role. 
    i believe Cook knows this and will sacrifice himself by retiring as soon as this Trump administration is replaced by a saner president, hopefully Democrat.  Tim will look back at these years with remorse for what he had to do to bring Apple through them.  There’s no winning, so he’s taking the path of least losing, knowing his entire career will be get a red mark.  But he’s willing to take that hit to minimize the damage and attempt to keep Apple competitive in a global market.  
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,543member
    dewme said:

    Cook was once described by Steve Jobs as not being a "product person," but he's unquestionably a politician. He apparently kept the working relationship going with Trump before the last election, and he is confirmed to have personally donated $1 million to the president's inauguration.

    I'll do more than question it, I'll flat out assert that he is not a politician.

    Politicians (at least when the term is used pejoratively, as it seems to here) don't stand for anything, say whatever they need to say, and shift with the slightest breeze.

    That isn't Tim Cook. Exhibit 1: https://www.apple.com/diversity/ ;

    Perhaps we can agree that he is politically astute, but that doesn't make him a politician.
    I agree with your assertions. What Tim Cook is doing, at least when he's wearing his Tim Apple Super CEO suit, is not politics but doing everything he can to ensure the success of his company and all of its stakeholders. However, what Tim Apple does probably does not reflect what Tim Cook, the man, would do in order to maintain his own personal integrity, reputation, value system, and generally how to exist peacefully as a citizen of the world.

    The problem for Tim Cook is that every time the president mentions his name or insinuates a real connection with Tim Cook, the man, Tim takes a hit in the things that many people and especially Apple customers value in him, including his reputation and integrity. Tim Cook was hand picked to take the helm when Steve Jobs stepped back. That is a really big deal considering Steve Jobs is the one who restored Apple's reputation, integrity, competitiveness, differentiation from the crowded PC world, and a willingness to always make sure customers were delighted with the products he help bring to market. 

    The current president has significantly damaged the reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability of the United States. In the same way, every time another leader in the private sector gets anointed as a "True Trump Buddy" their reputation, trustworthiness, and reliability takes a big hit. In some cases it gets obliterated as we've seen with Elon Musk and Zuckerberg.

    Apple will pay a price for this, we just don't know how large or how fire-walled or DMZ'd it can be kept  between the real person and who they play when they step into their corporate role. 
    i believe Cook knows this and will sacrifice himself by retiring as soon as this Trump administration is replaced by a saner president, hopefully Democrat.  Tim will look back at these years with remorse for what he had to do to bring Apple through them.  There’s no winning, so he’s taking the path of least losing, knowing his entire career will be get a red mark.  But he’s willing to take that hit to minimize the damage and attempt to keep Apple competitive in a global market.  
    I doubt there will be any red mark for Tim. Not when our nation's biggest, most prestigious law firms, which should be ramparting the rule of law, quickly fell on bended knee to Trump, capitulating to extortion, choosing profits over the Constitution and agreeing to do one BILLION dollars worth (and counting) of free legal work for Trump's "causes," and there isn't a cause that sleazeball has that isn't corrupt. Same for some of our most elite universities in terms of acquiescing to Trump. Tim wrote a million dollar personal check to Trump's inauguration and that was it, as far as we know. He literally bought the survival of Apple--at least for now!--with his own money. Let's be real: Apple would not survive long-term, 145% tariffs on the 95% of its products that still come out of China. It's not like Tim agreed to a single Orwellian demand from Trump, or to give up its DEI policies or provide access to its vast quantities of consumer data or cooperate with ICE, etc. I suspect that Tim persuaded Trump that destroying what is arguably America's most visible global brand, one of America's most popular companies domestically and one of the greatest "rags to riches" success stories in America's capitalist system was truly not in Trump's best interests. I see no shame or blame in anything Tim has done. 

    One last but very important thing: the collapse of law firms to Trump has left the ACLU without the additional help it had from these firms during Trump's first term, and ACLU lawyers now face the tsunami of lawlessness unleashed by Trump much more on their own. ACLU is 100% funded by donors, so if you care about your democracy, it should be clear to you that court actions are the only defense we have, so now would be the time to join ACLU and donate. The foundation of their funding comes from regular people who give $25 every month--that's the same price as a friggin' Netflix 4K subscription, so maybe not living under a dictatorship is more important than the next season of Stranger Things? If you can't do the monthly, at least donate something--and if you're not willing to do that, then don't pretend that you care. www.aclu.org
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  • Reply 30 of 30
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,644member
    The words "intelligence" and "wisdom" are not part of Trump's and his sycophants' vocabulary. But "avarice" greed, malice, petty, vengeful, ego and similar are. There are no truly good adjectives to describe this president  and his gang of thieves. Maybe if measles wiped out some of those key players I'd have something positive to say.

    Monetary donations in the past usually ranged from lobbying to outright bribes. In this administration, it's bribes and blackmail with no that a payee will get what they've been wanting. Maybe they're worth billions and billions... Donating money for fear you or your company will be economically knee-capped isn't donating. It's protection money. A shakedown. Especially when payment is demanded by someone (Trump obviously) who's been declared untouchable except by impeachment. That's tragically not going to happen.

    Cook 'donated' that $M not because that's the way business is done. But because he new it absolute necessary to try to prevent Apple suffering significant economic damage. Without any speech or grandstanding he paid the required tribute out of his pocket to try to insulate Apple from any capitulation. Obviously few people realize that.

    Republicans whine that Biden conducted 'lawfare' against Trump ignoring that it was fair law. What The Felon is doing is not fair law and in many instances – unlawful. He doesn't care and further ignores the fair law of courts. Sychophants claim this is how "strong leaders work".

    There's no small irony that in The Art of the Deal there is no art nor no deal. Only base criminality taken to whole new heights by a convicted felon. He'll exact revenge on anyone who's "crossed" him even in the pettiest of manners, and by those who aid and abet him.

    The real shame is everyone knew it was coming. He said so. He warned us through word and action the first time. He said he would do it again when running the second time. We were warned — twice. People still voted for him or didn't vote at all. It's a too small comfort that some who voted for him or stayed home and didn't vote are now whining that actions he's taken that they previously championed have hurt them economically.

    How do you like him now.
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