Tantalizing details of Jony Ive's AI device leak after OpenAI meeting

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    anthogag said: I suspect the overriding impetus for these clowns is to be billionaires.  
    Yup. CEO creates startup with mystery device and then sells the startup for billions to his own company? Hmmmm....
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  • Reply 22 of 57
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,877member
    So..  a device which collects data and even if I use iPhone or MacBook, this device will absorb and collect data from all users when connecting it with Apple products which makes Apple‘s privacy obsolete. 

    And this device gets smarter and smarter by learning with collected data. 
    It will be a personal device while Apple makes generally purposed devices. 


    I see that Apple stock is underperforming as the worst stock performer YTD among Magnificant 7.

    Rotten Apple will feel the pressure. Better now than late: Tim Cook needs to step down as he can’t afford to doom Apple further and further since Vision Pro.


    So Apple is in trouble because two clowns get on the stage a la Qualcomm/Microsoft last year and announce something (nothing) that requires software and hardware which preforms like vaporware but is far beyond anything Apple has done to date, and the hardware would be better than Apple Silicon and the OS driving it will be better than any of the five operating systems Apple has released in the last 25 years? Oh and at the end Apple is also doomed too. :smile:

    Note: Microsoft’s effort came up so far short of Apples Rosetta one (let alone Rosetta two) and the CPU/SOC designed by Qualcomm also came up short of the M1 processor in overall actual performance in software/hardware, which is why Microsoft is now also doubling down on their AI efforts this year and downplaying the hardware aspects, Microsoft has even gone so far as canceled some of the Surface hardware recently. (Microsoft hardware solutions are so bad that many in the geek crowd are crying that Apple should emulate it with a touch screen MacOS on an M4 iPad).

    The biggest difference is that Apple’s computers/devices actually sell at a profit from day one there are no giveaways. The Microsoft hardware solutions (over 12 years?) are all lost leader unprofitable Me-too products. 


    Like the Microsoft/Qualcomm current mashup, which is a lost leader and is an unprofitable Me-too product this 6 billion dollar Bromance will end in tears. (but Johnny will now be a multiple billionaire). The OpenAI Sam/Jonnie show is just looking to hold on until the initial public offering.
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  • Reply 23 of 57
    cabassicabassi Posts: 31member
    I can't help but be intrigued by this. I hope it ends up being great.

    That said, there's a lot of big, arrogant talk. Altman says LoveFrom is the densest collection of talent that's ever existed in the world, and Ive just nods along. The cynical take is this is two men longing to be significant. Ive wants to recapture the significance he felt from helping develop the iPhone and other Apple products. Altman wants to win the AI war. 

    The grandiosity of Ive and Altman's video smacks of Imran Chaudri talking about the Humane AI Pin (before we knew what it was). 

    It feels desperate. Again, I hope I'm wrong. 
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  • Reply 24 of 57
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,877member
    cabassi said:
    I can't help but be intrigued by this. I hope it ends up being great.

    That said, there's a lot of big, arrogant talk. Altman says LoveFrom is the densest collection of talent that's ever existed in the world, and Ive just nods along. The cynical take is this is two men longing to be significant. Ive wants to recapture the significance he felt from helping develop the iPhone and other Apple products. Altman wants to win the AI war. 

    The grandiosity of Ive and Altman's video smacks of Imran Chaudri talking about the Humane AI Pin (before we knew what it was). 

    It feels desperate. Again, I hope I'm wrong. 

    Holding on until the initial public offering Sam is doing everything he can to get across the finish line because there is no moat for AI….
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  • Reply 25 of 57
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    danox said:
    So..  a device which collects data and even if I use iPhone or MacBook, this device will absorb and collect data from all users when connecting it with Apple products which makes Apple‘s privacy obsolete. 

    And this device gets smarter and smarter by learning with collected data. 
    It will be a personal device while Apple makes generally purposed devices. 


    I see that Apple stock is underperforming as the worst stock performer YTD among Magnificant 7.

    Rotten Apple will feel the pressure. Better now than late: Tim Cook needs to step down as he can’t afford to doom Apple further and further since Vision Pro.


    So Apple is in trouble because two clowns get on the stage a la Qualcomm/Microsoft last year and announce something (nothing) that requires software and hardware which preforms like vaporware but is far beyond anything Apple has done to date, and the hardware would be better than Apple Silicon and the OS driving it will be better than any of the five operating systems Apple has released in the last 25 years? Oh and at the end Apple is also doomed too. :smile:

    Note: Microsoft’s effort came up so far short of Apples Rosetta one (let alone Rosetta two) and the CPU/SOC designed by Qualcomm also came up short of the M1 processor in overall actual performance in software/hardware, which is why Microsoft is now also doubling down on their AI efforts this year and downplaying the hardware aspects, Microsoft has even gone so far as canceled some of the Surface hardware recently. (Microsoft hardware solutions are so bad that many in the geek crowd are crying that Apple should emulate it with a touch screen MacOS on an M4 iPad).

    The biggest difference is that Apple’s computers/devices actually sell at a profit from day one there are no giveaways. The Microsoft hardware solutions (over 12 years?) are all lost leader unprofitable Me-too products. 


    Like the Microsoft/Qualcomm current mashup, which is a lost leader and is an unprofitable Me-too product this 6 billion dollar Bromance will end in tears. (but Johnny will be a billionaire). The OpenAI Sam/Jonnie show is just looking to hold on until the initial public offering.
    I'm guessing that this is going to be a consumer oriented CRISPR, so that we can reconfigure ourselves for the dystopian future...
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  • Reply 26 of 57
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,501member
    tht said:
    If we are talking Star Trek stuff, there's a gazillion more things I'd want over whatever OpenAI is trying to do. Replicator. Replicator, man. Food, whatever object fits in the replicator, drinks. Giving me food in 1 minute, without any prep whatsoever, no cleanup, would save me like 3 hours a day. A transporter. An FTL starship. Inertial dampeners. Whatever energy source that is powering this stuff. You notice that there aren't any bathrooms in Star Trek? On any scifi property? What's up with that? Nobody needs to poop. ;)

    Last thing I'd want is the ship computer voice interface or a phaser.


    I just want to say "Earl Gray, hot" and have one appear, dammit.
    And Majel Barrett as my Siri voice since day one. :D
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  • Reply 27 of 57
    mikethemartianmikethemartian Posts: 1,727member
    Magic 8 Ball
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  • Reply 28 of 57
    The company Cubic.ai was working on this concept, check out the youtube video "Cubic: Your Personal AI with Personality".

    A Cube in the home, and a pendant while on the move. a glimpse into a possible future.

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  • Reply 29 of 57
    Kumingakuminga Posts: 55member
    So a AI box that we have in our phone already

    IVE has been a nothing since leaving Apple, let’s be honest here

    i am more excited about the Tesla robot 
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  • Reply 30 of 57
    tiredskillstiredskills Posts: 136member
    Couldn't be more obvious that this is going to be trash.
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  • Reply 31 of 57
    thttht Posts: 6,010member
    mike1 said:
    tht said:
    If we are talking Star Trek stuff, there's a gazillion more things I'd want over whatever OpenAI is trying to do. Replicator. Replicator, man. Food, whatever object fits in the replicator, drinks. Giving me food in 1 minute, without any prep whatsoever, no cleanup, would save me like 3 hours a day. A transporter. An FTL starship. Inertial dampeners. Whatever energy source that is powering this stuff. You notice that there aren't any bathrooms in Star Trek? On any scifi property? What's up with that? Nobody needs to poop. ;)

    Last thing I'd want is the ship computer voice interface or a phaser.

    I just want to say "Earl Gray, hot" and have one appear, dammit.
    And Majel Barrett as my Siri voice since day one. :D
    My memory is sketchy here. Picard always said "Tea. Earl Gray. Hot."?

    It's relevant to how software would respond to input, because "Earl Gray, hot" could mean something completely different, especially if you are Mr. Gray. ;)
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  • Reply 32 of 57
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,795member
    avon b7 said:
    My guess is a thin (very thin?) puck-like device with a thin (very thin?) LED strip around the base.

    Brushed metal (caressible) or glass (lickable). 

    Internal wireless connectivity (no ports) and using mics/speakers from other devices. 

    Cloud processing plus subscription. Bingo! 

    Honesty, the 'sci-fi dream' is what it's always been: AI with an interface of some kind. Ideally voice and a screen. That's it.

    Would a humanoid robot be a plus? Yes for some situations, but if it's going to sell in hundreds of millions, I'll rule that option out.



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  • Reply 33 of 57
    dutchlorddutchlord Posts: 326member
    No way I will buy such a device
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  • Reply 34 of 57
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,214member
    Watched their video. It was just another SV circle jerk, how it couldn’t happen anywhere else, yada yada, while they sniff each other’s farts. Seen this show before. 
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  • Reply 35 of 57
    blastdoor said:
    The main devices from Star Trek were communicators, tablets, phasers, and tricorders. I’m guessing it’s not a phaser, so it must be a tricorder. 
    Tricorders famously have screens, because human beings spend a LOT of cognitive power on visuals.  Lots of evolution along those lines.
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  • Reply 36 of 57
    AI needs a physical presence to sell people in on.  And the rich people like to give money to their friends.  Ive wasn't a billionaire yet.  Now he is.  

    They all want to live forever.  It's the one thing their money can't buy.  Hence AI and crazy hardware that can model more and more.
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  • Reply 37 of 57
    fred1fred1 Posts: 1,168member
    This is perfect. I’ve been looking for a way to remove the last shreds of privacy that I have. /s

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  • Reply 38 of 57
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,658member
    Likely a speaker with a screen. An ai Alexa. 

    What else is a third device “on your desk?”

    doesn’t sound like a wearable. 

    Saw the Ive and Altman commercial yesterday on YouTube. They sounded very bullish on this as if it were the next great thing. 

    As much as I don’t personally care for where technology is heading as it removes humans from the equation more and more, my interest is piqued concerning this. As it always is when Jony Ive is involved. The man always produces the best hardware designs, whether it’s a computer, a music player, a smartphone, a tablet, a watch, wireless earbuds, and even a paper red nose. Whatever he makes, it’s either revolutionary or st worst, best in class. 
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  • Reply 39 of 57
    BittySonbittyson Posts: 79member
    Because everyone, or even anyone, wants to carry another device around when an iPhone can do whatever you need.  Or if you can only use ChatGPT in the future from this new device, something kinda tells me ChatGPT won’t survive very long in that environment.  SMH.  Trying to justify an investment by throwing around Monopoly given by brainless partners.
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  • Reply 40 of 57
    sunman42sunman42 Posts: 349member
    Afarstar said:
    They’re building the ultimate snooping device. 
    It will track your every movement, everything you say and will spit out more AI garbage than you could ever imagine. 
    While it servers will be burning the planet down.
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