I've had a stressful week at work and it is ironic that this came up. An Apple rackmount server would save on stress! Quick and timely example (this kept me over two hours overtime yesterday, well this and mapping problems between servers.) On NT4 servers sharing data to a mac area create a list of the file in a log and if the server crashes or hangs (which they do!) then during the reboot it must reconstruct this log. Unfortunately yesterday this service never engaged during the reboot! Also NT4 servers, when sharing out mac files, get cranky when the drives have more that 65,000 (or there abouts)pieces of info being shared to macs.
Plus an Apple rackmount server would would be both very awesome and add brightness to the server room as well as replace the few poor, tired, Apple Workgroup Servers we have still plugging away.
[quote]WebObjects can be deployed on a Windows 2000 Server or on Solaris. [..]There is also a group of people trying to get WebObjects to run under linux, in which, your deployment options double exponentially.<hr></blockquote>
WebObjects 5 is a complete Java solution and it runs out of the box on Linux.
I'd love to buy a rackmountable Mac as an replacement for my G3 DSL/file/mp3/cam-server here at home just for bragging value :-)
Rackmounts are very interesting for audio/video production studios where half of the equipment is anyway rack mountable like all the pro tools stuff. Would be nice to put all the gear into one rack and the mac would look very sexy in there, wouldn't it.
WebObjects 5 is a complete Java solution and it runs out of the box on Linux.
I'd love to buy a rackmountable Mac as an replacement for my G3 DSL/file/mp3/cam-server here at home just for bragging value :-)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, you can't deploy it on Linux. Even if you ignore the fact that Linux isn't a supported deployment operating system from Apple...
Back in January I was looking to attempt to deploy WebObjects on a cheap linux server because, as you said, it's Java and it should work. Tell that to all the people on the Yahoo WebObjects group, it's not that easy. I should probably check back in and see if they have had any luck...
<strong>Rackmounts are very interesting for audio/video production studios where half of the equipment is anyway rack mountable like all the pro tools stuff. Would be nice to put all the gear into one rack and the mac would look very sexy in there, wouldn't it. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yup, and for me, doing live video performances (i.e prcessing PAL in realtime) I would need an AGP slot and a couple of PCI slots for capture/output cards. It would be a nice little rig that could take my rack switcher, rack midi interface and rack MOTU interface, as well as the broadcast equipment I will buy soon. About 8-10U... Nice for those guerilla sessions...
To be honest, I am surprised that the one thing nobody on here seems to be talking about is OSX Server. It is not purely a matter of "well why would I not use a cheapo linux box". OSX Server is now a second generation, mature, and stable server platform. A lot of the features that it offers, are singularly unique, both in their existence, and in their ease of implimentation. Net boot offers amazing oportunities to the education market, Quicktime Streaming Server also, as well as local and state government. I think that this is really at the core of Apples rackmount strategy. OSX Server has been a bastard child of sorts, now finally it has a box that can help it meet it's potential. Sure it can file serve, web serve, and host Web Objects, but as we have pointed out so much here in this forum, so can many other platforms. I think that this is great news, and will enable Apple to offer even greater "services" that are mac only going forward. I really feel that OSX Server, and a robust server to host it, has been the missing piece of the puzzle so to speak.
We will see, warpd. We are putting an eMac lab in this summer, and I have some server cabinet and a rack mount would work fine, but I would only use it to manage the lab. I don't need OSX server, but it may have some advantages.
The spin-off is the Mac may make a good DHCP server, and print server; for which we are evaluating Linux, but if the Mac server will work, well hey, screw Linux. And screw Win2k - how can a DHCP server get harder to use???(from NT4).
Very cool! Are you in a school environment?? If so you should really look into the possibilities that OSX Server offers. The Net Boot utility is an amazing way to cut down on IT overhead (work wise, not people wise! :-) I used to be an SE for an Apple sales channel, and set this up a lot for the state of Washington, and others. That was OSX Server 1.X, I am sure that it is only better now! As for DHCP serving, that has very little overhead, and the mac should handle that no problem. Robin.
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Plus an Apple rackmount server would would be both very awesome and add brightness to the server room as well as replace the few poor, tired, Apple Workgroup Servers we have still plugging away.
[quote]WebObjects can be deployed on a Windows 2000 Server or on Solaris. [..]There is also a group of people trying to get WebObjects to run under linux, in which, your deployment options double exponentially.<hr></blockquote>
WebObjects 5 is a complete Java solution and it runs out of the box on Linux.
I'd love to buy a rackmountable Mac as an replacement for my G3 DSL/file/mp3/cam-server here at home just for bragging value :-)
<strong>Originally posted by M3D Jack:
WebObjects 5 is a complete Java solution and it runs out of the box on Linux.
I'd love to buy a rackmountable Mac as an replacement for my G3 DSL/file/mp3/cam-server here at home just for bragging value :-)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, you can't deploy it on Linux. Even if you ignore the fact that Linux isn't a supported deployment operating system from Apple...
Last I checked, which was a few months back, someone had gotten WOStats and wotaskd to run under linux, however they were still unable to get any applications to launch. One journal I was following briefly was at: <a href="http://redshed.net/pontification/linuxJournal.html"; target="_blank">http://redshed.net/pontification/linuxJournal.html</a>;
Back in January I was looking to attempt to deploy WebObjects on a cheap linux server because, as you said, it's Java and it should work. Tell that to all the people on the Yahoo WebObjects group, it's not that easy. I should probably check back in and see if they have had any luck...
<strong>Rackmounts are very interesting for audio/video production studios where half of the equipment is anyway rack mountable like all the pro tools stuff. Would be nice to put all the gear into one rack and the mac would look very sexy in there, wouldn't it.
Yup, and for me, doing live video performances (i.e prcessing PAL in realtime) I would need an AGP slot and a couple of PCI slots for capture/output cards. It would be a nice little rig that could take my rack switcher, rack midi interface and rack MOTU interface, as well as the broadcast equipment I will buy soon. About 8-10U... Nice for those guerilla sessions...
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The spin-off is the Mac may make a good DHCP server, and print server; for which we are evaluating Linux, but if the Mac server will work, well hey, screw Linux. And screw Win2k - how can a DHCP server get harder to use???(from NT4).