Amercan military admits using torture agaisnt iraqis
Lets set a new record. How many times can you call me something that contains one or more of the words "euro", "liberal", "commie", "anti-american" and "french" in one thread 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...959538,00.html
US forces admitting the use of torture. And not being ashamed about it.
Do you really think this is jusitfied? And now when there is no imminent threath from the WoMD that maybe in Iraq?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...959538,00.html
US forces admitting the use of torture. And not being ashamed about it.
Do you really think this is jusitfied? And now when there is no imminent threath from the WoMD that maybe in Iraq?
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On a personal note,
"These people haven't heard heavy metal before. They can't take it. If you play it for 24 hours, your brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down and your will is broken."
That would explain a lot.
Originally posted by mrmister
very cute, anders.
Cute? I´m dead serious. THIS IS TORTURE and makes all talk about the spread of western democratic values sound hollow I just refuse to put the
Originally posted by BuonRotto
"These people haven't heard heavy metal before. They can't take it. If you play it for 24 hours, your brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down and your will is broken."
That would explain a lot.
Other than that it's in definite breach of the UN Charter and of the universal protocol on tasteful music and safe dB levels.
[I have sometimes thought it'd be pertinent to submit a few AI posters to extended exposure to Oum Kalsoum, if only to pre-empt future annoyances]
I believe Anders has reasonable grounds to sue the US government for these hideous war crimes, and I propose a special war tribunal to be set in Florence, Tuscany is really pleasant in this season.
I would however be suspicious of of the reliability of info from a preson whose ?brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down?; hell, I can't tell my left from my right after spending time with the extended family and its thousand screaming kids.
Of course, there are other, more subtle, more efficient methods which break the will of the source while leaving his mind clear and his body untouched.
now you wonder why the entertainment industry is so powerful
Originally posted by Anders the White
Cute? I´m dead serious. THIS IS TORTURE and makes all talk about the spread of western democratic values sound hollow I just refuse to put the
You are correct. This is torture. However, since I'm not a Republican I hate America and my opinion isn't valid.
Originally posted by Anders the White
Cute? I´m dead serious. THIS IS TORTURE?
Some people who suffered real torture would take offense here.
Not that you shouldn't be allowed to be offensive or anything.
Having to suffer loud bad music is not torture; having real acute pain inflicted on you for days, weeks, months? is.
Oh yes, real torture also doesn't have deadlines.
Originally posted by Immanuel Goldstein
Some people who suffered real torture would take offense here.
Not that you shouldn't be allowed to be offensive or anything.
Having to suffer loud bad music is not torture; having real acute pain inflicted on you for days, weeks, months? is.
Oh yes, real torture also doesn't have deadlines.
So you are one of those people that live in a world that is black and white.
Why can't both circumstances be torture of varying degrees? HMM??
Originally posted by Immanuel Goldstein
Some people who suffered real torture would take offense here.
Not that you shouldn't be allowed to be offensive or anything.
Having to suffer loud bad music is not torture; having real acute pain inflicted on you for days, weeks, months? is.
Oh yes, real torture also doesn't have deadlines.
This is real torture. We have been through this before. Its covered by the United Nations convention against torture.
"Just" because there is other more cruel forms for torture doesn´t make this less torture.
UN definition:
"...the term 'torture' means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity."
WMA definition:
??torture is defined as the deliberate, systematic or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons acting alone or on the orders of any authority to force another person to yield information, to make a confession, or for any other reason.?
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Even if you don't feel that these techniques are 'real' torture, this is still the kind of behavior the US Department of State deplores (when practiced by countries like Iran, Turkey or China) in its annual report on Human Rights practices.
.....although having to listen to Marilyn Manson and Mettalica's latest album would be painful....
I wonder if they've tried any of David Lee Roth's solo albums---that's almost too terrible to consider.
"Trust me, it works," a US "operative" told Newsweek magazine.
"In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney I Love You song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again."
I know my 2 year old makes life miserable some days, but I had no idea it was torture.
Originally posted by kneelbeforezod
Even if you don't feel that these techniques are 'real' torture, this is still the kind of behavior the US Department of State deplores in its annual report on Human Rights practices.
Well, we all know that there's a big rift between the State Department and the Defense Department anyway.