Reminds me about how much I love the west (used to live in Colorado.)
Course, IIRC, a bunch of self absorbed rich folk (*cough* Oprah *cough* Tom Cruise) have bought up half the land in the state, and now It'll cost you a testicle and a few large appendages just to get a three walled shack and an outhouse.
It?s funny how it?s always easier to appreciate things after they?re gone.
My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.
And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Isn't it though?!
Them Europeans have always hated the good ?ol U.S. of A. Well, I know that egypt place ain?t exactly in europe. But it?s close enough.
Is surprises me though to hear that homer feller wrote all that anti american stuff, himself being from the greatest country in the world. His job at that powerplant must be wearing him somethin? awful for him to do something like that.
As a Gulf War vet I have to dissagree with your bashing of Scott. I do not take pride that I took the life of my fellow man but it was my job. No one forced me to do it I voluenteered, I joined out of respect for the countless men who died in past wars. If it was not for there sacrafice you wouldn't have the rights to protest. It's a double edeged knife, men had to die to give you your rights. Think about that.
Now don't flame me for my opinion, because as we all know opinions are like @rse holes, everybody has one and they all stink.
Bah. Poetry sucks. What about John Nash, David Bomberg, Fernand Leger, Otto Dix....Basel, Underwood, Severini, et al?
Now that's art. And only a smiggen from what WW1 created.
Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.
here is a painter who has a lot of work at the Visionary Art Museum (museum dedicated to Outsider Artists) in Baltimore that has an intesly powerfull vision of the world as essentially being about Warfare . . . and therefore being tantamount to being in hell . . . I can't remember his name but if I can track it down I will . . .
My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.
And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.
I thought this was an 'art inspired by war' thread, not just anti-war art.
In 1942 my father, George Rarey, a young cartoonist and commercial artist, was drafted into the Army Air Corps. He flew a P-47 before he drove a car. During his service he kept a cartoon journal of the daily life of the fighter pilots. A few weeks after D-Day he was killed in combat over France.
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*all together now* ... all we are saying, is Give Peace a Chance.
War - Edwin Starr, Springsteen, U2... take your pick
Two Tribes... Frankie Goes to Hollywood
much of Tolkien's Lord of The Rings was a response to WWI...
how many films could i start to name
Now that's art. And only a smiggen from what WW1 created.
No postings of the art and poetry that's now allowed after the US/UK/Aussies/Pols/nottheFrench freed the artists in Iraq from Saddam?
What fun would that be?
Originally posted by thuh Freak
for war, I'm partial to Robert Zimmerman.
Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.
Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.
Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.
Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.
When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.
I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.
But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.
So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.
No, that's not the US cavalry chasing him.
"Ridden Down"
Originally posted by ena
"Ridden Down"
Beautiful, in that sad sort of way.
Wow.
Reminds me about how much I love the west (used to live in Colorado.)
Course, IIRC, a bunch of self absorbed rich folk (*cough* Oprah *cough* Tom Cruise) have bought up half the land in the state, and now It'll cost you a testicle and a few large appendages just to get a three walled shack and an outhouse.
It?s funny how it?s always easier to appreciate things after they?re gone.
Though the names and countries have changed
the actions remain the same...
" Stars And Stripes Of Corruption "
Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
I couldn't wait
I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
My heart began to pound
Yahoo! It really exists
The American International Pictures logo
I looked up at that Capitol Building
Couldn't help but wonder why
I felt like saying "Hello, old friend"
Walked up the hill to touch it
Then I unzipped my pants
And pissed on it when nobody was looking
Like a great eternal Klansman
With his two flashing red eyes
Turn around he's always watching
The Washington monument pricks the sky
With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom
The symbols of our heritage
Lit up proudly in the night
Somehow fits to see the homeless people
Passed out on the lawn
So this is where it happens
The power games and bribes
All lobbying for a piece of ass
Of the stars and stripes of corruption
Makes me feel so ashamed
To be an American
When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
Trying to start another Viet Nam
Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home
The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the Japanese"
"America's back," alright
At the game it plays the worst
Strip mining the world like a slave plantation
No wonder others hate us
And the Hitlers we handpick
To bleed their people dry
For our evil empire
The drug we're fed
To make us like it
Is God and country with a band
People we know who should know better
Howl, "America rules. Let's go to war!"
Business scams are what's worth dying for
Are the Soviets our worst enemy?
We're destroying ourselves instead
Who cares about our civil rights
As long as I get paid?
The blind Me-Generation
Doesn't care if life's a lie
so easily used, so proud to enforce
The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
Tell me who's the real patriots
The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?
Or the people with the guts to work
For some real change
Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
Our real test of strength is caring
Not the toys of war we sell the world
Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
Old glory for a blanket
As you suck on your thumbs
Real freedom scares you
'Cos it means responsibility
So you chicken out and threaten me
Saying, "Love it or leave it"
I'll get beat up if I criticize it
You say you'll fight to the death
To save your worthless flag
If you want a banana republic that bad
Why don't you go move to one
But what can just one of us do?
Against all that money and power
Trying to crush us into roaches?
We don't destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first
From the inside out
We can start by not lying so much
And treating other people like dirt
It's easy not to base our lives
On how much we can scam
And you know
It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs
I'm thankful I live in a place
Where I can say the things I do
Without being taken out and shot
So I'm on guard against the goons
Trying to take my rights away
We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws
Let kids learn communication
Instead of schools pushing competition
How about more art and theater instead of sports?
People will always do drugs
Let's legalize them
Crime drops when the mob can't price them
Budget's in the red?
Let's tax religion
No one will do it for us
We'll just have to fix ourselves
Honesty ain't all that hard
Just put Rambo back inside your pants
Causing trouble for the system is much more fun
Thank you for the toilet paper
But your flag is meaningless to me
Look around, we're all people
Who needs countries anyway?
Our land, I love it too
I think I love it more than you
I care enough to fight
The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
If we don't try
If we just lie
If we can't find
A way to do it better than this
Who will?
Originally posted by Scott
Another anti-American thread?
My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.
And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Isn't it though?!
Them Europeans have always hated the good ?ol U.S. of A. Well, I know that egypt place ain?t exactly in europe. But it?s close enough.
Is surprises me though to hear that homer feller wrote all that anti american stuff, himself being from the greatest country in the world. His job at that powerplant must be wearing him somethin? awful for him to do something like that.
stress stress stress
Now don't flame me for my opinion, because as we all know opinions are like @rse holes, everybody has one and they all stink.
Originally posted by 709
Bah. Poetry sucks. What about John Nash, David Bomberg, Fernand Leger, Otto Dix....Basel, Underwood, Severini, et al?
Now that's art. And only a smiggen from what WW1 created.
Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.
here is a painter who has a lot of work at the Visionary Art Museum (museum dedicated to Outsider Artists) in Baltimore that has an intesly powerfull vision of the world as essentially being about Warfare . . . and therefore being tantamount to being in hell . . . I can't remember his name but if I can track it down I will . . .
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.
And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.
It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
Very funny.
Originally posted by bunge
[With God on Our Side]
I hadn't heard that one. Thanks for pointing it out. (and thank you [mutella], for allowing me to [sample] it).
Originally posted by pfflam
Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.
I thought this was an 'art inspired by war' thread, not just anti-war art.
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In 1942 my father, George Rarey, a young cartoonist and commercial artist, was drafted into the Army Air Corps. He flew a P-47 before he drove a car. During his service he kept a cartoon journal of the daily life of the fighter pilots. A few weeks after D-Day he was killed in combat over France.