The base G5 ships with 256MB of RAM! Are they joking? Apple should cut the crap with default RAM and have the min be 1 GB. Period. These are PRO machines!
I agree, the standard RAM is inadequate and one drive bay is inconvenient. Especially that now the really are POWER machines they shouldn't have these weaknesses.
But the #1 problem is...surprise!--the price. Not that they arent worth it but it puts us in that same old bind but even more firmly--no way to get the screen you want without making a serious $ commitment.
I hope the iMac steps up with some more power and maybe minimal upgradeability. But even then, what if I want a 19" screen? I kind of have that feeling of disappointment when I saw the cube's price. But not nearly to that extent. They (the new Power Macs) are great machines after all.
Matsu must be at work still so I thought I'd get the ball rolling on the price bitching. You know, something refreshingly new.
My biggest complaint? I don't want it on my desk. It just doesn't look nice and it seems rather large. My quicksilver is still in my opinion the best looking powermac ever.
No matching keyboard and mouse? White and clear with aluminum? ick.
I'm a designer by the way...I know a lot of this doesn't matter, I am just pretty picky. I want it though
Price I can live with. One optical drive bay is a letdown, but I guess they couldn't fit another one. The case is ****ing packed as is. Not enough RAM on standard configurations. GeforceFX 5200 performance blows chunks. All machines should have a 9600 Pro or better, minimum. No built in bluetooth or AirPort. Same old mouse and keyboard. No hardware RAID. Side door and motherboard doesn't fold down. Low end model only has 4 RAM slots. No bundled speakers. Not shipping with Panther. Not available until August. Safari isn't multithreaded.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but does anyone else have a problem with Apple releasing the post potent personal computer ever, featuring the vaunted G5...
...and then giving it 512K L2 cache?? Unless there's an architecture limitation I'm not aware of (fie on me for suggesting it!) then someone at The Fruit Company has cracked under the pressure of The Big Announcement and turned to heroin.
Otherwise, I'm creamily happy ('cept for still no 15" AlBook )
I agree, the standard RAM is inadequate and one drive bay is inconvenient. Especially that now the really are POWER machines they shouldn't have these weaknesses.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but does anyone else have a problem with Apple releasing the post potent personal computer ever, featuring the vaunted G5...
...and then giving it 512K L2 cache?? Unless there's an architecture limitation I'm not aware of (fie on me for suggesting it!) then someone at The Fruit Company has cracked under the pressure of The Big Announcement and turned to heroin.
Otherwise, I'm creamily happy ('cept for still no 15" AlBook )
-K
Someone better at hardware than me could probably confirm this, but I believe that by reducing the bottlenecks between the CPU and main RAM, the requirement for a significant and expensive L2 cache is reduced.
The base G5 ships with 256MB of RAM! Are they joking? Apple should cut the crap with default RAM and have the min be 1 GB. Period. These are PRO machines!
I thought that was a bit of a joke too, it should be at least 512, or even better 0.
The base G5 ships with 256MB of RAM! Are they joking? Apple should cut the crap with default RAM and have the min be 1 GB. Period. These are PRO machines!
I sort of agree, except I'm more pragmatic and I say 512MB.
1GB is a lot if you're having to pay Apple prices for RAM. At least they're giving you the chance to go third-party and save a few bucks!!
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But the #1 problem is...surprise!--the price. Not that they arent worth it but it puts us in that same old bind but even more firmly--no way to get the screen you want without making a serious $ commitment.
I hope the iMac steps up with some more power and maybe minimal upgradeability. But even then, what if I want a 19" screen? I kind of have that feeling of disappointment when I saw the cube's price. But not nearly to that extent. They (the new Power Macs) are great machines after all.
Matsu must be at work still so I thought I'd get the ball rolling on the price bitching. You know, something refreshingly new.
No matching keyboard and mouse? White and clear with aluminum? ick.
I'm a designer by the way...I know a lot of this doesn't matter, I am just pretty picky. I want it though
...and then giving it 512K L2 cache?? Unless there's an architecture limitation I'm not aware of (fie on me for suggesting it!) then someone at The Fruit Company has cracked under the pressure of The Big Announcement and turned to heroin.
Otherwise, I'm creamily happy ('cept for still no 15" AlBook )
-K
I agree, the standard RAM is inadequate and one drive bay is inconvenient. Especially that now the really are POWER machines they shouldn't have these weaknesses.
By all means, buy a MDD G4.
You get 4 HD's and 2 optical drives.
I am sure this will suit your needs fine.
No El Capitan-style side door with hinges?
I think the way the fans and cooling system are configured, it would have made it harder if the motherboard came down with the door.
Seems like access is pretty good though.
Better than the El Capitan IMO.
:0)
keyboard the same as current?
Why no airport antena internally?
Originally posted by Kabeyun
Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but does anyone else have a problem with Apple releasing the post potent personal computer ever, featuring the vaunted G5...
...and then giving it 512K L2 cache?? Unless there's an architecture limitation I'm not aware of (fie on me for suggesting it!) then someone at The Fruit Company has cracked under the pressure of The Big Announcement and turned to heroin.
Otherwise, I'm creamily happy ('cept for still no 15" AlBook )
-K
Someone better at hardware than me could probably confirm this, but I believe that by reducing the bottlenecks between the CPU and main RAM, the requirement for a significant and expensive L2 cache is reduced.
Anybody want to confirm or deny?
Originally posted by i am monkey
The base G5 ships with 256MB of RAM! Are they joking? Apple should cut the crap with default RAM and have the min be 1 GB. Period. These are PRO machines!
I thought that was a bit of a joke too, it should be at least 512, or even better 0.
Originally posted by i am monkey
The base G5 ships with 256MB of RAM! Are they joking? Apple should cut the crap with default RAM and have the min be 1 GB. Period. These are PRO machines!
I sort of agree, except I'm more pragmatic and I say 512MB.
1GB is a lot if you're having to pay Apple prices for RAM. At least they're giving you the chance to go third-party and save a few bucks!!
Now that the System Bus is up to 1 FREAKIN GHZ, with 6.4 GB/sec MEMORY, the need for L3 cache is essentially gone.
G4s need the L2/L3 cache because they have pathetic bus speeds, so a high-speed cache makes a difference.
... shame on you Apple.... shame on you.
256MB goes for what, $30? So 8 x 256 = 2GB for $240?