Sheesh, Dual 867 or better? There's only one model you can even buy right now that meets those requirements. They're definitely going to have to bring those down if they even want to sell a single copy at $129. Otherwise, people will just have to get Panther free with their new G5's.
Sounds definitive enough for me... And, it'll probably get me another year out of the old iBook. Still that's a lot of additional processing power just for debug code... maybe they've got all that running in a separate SMP thread or something, so if you've got a DP 867, it runs like a single 867.
"I can't tell you how much I like exposé. I programmed my middle mouse button to act as the trigger (in the exposé pane of the System Preferences) and it works flawlessly. It is so wonderful when I'm working with 20-30 open windows.
We installed it on a DP450/512 with a Rage128 card (read: no QE) and the performance was nothing short of amazing. I loaded up the system and tried to bog it down but it kept on plugging.
Most noticible observation: all apps open dramatically faster.
I recall the new Quicktime codec wants a 1 Ghz G4 to do full screen video. I suspect many users will be feeling the pain soon.
I posted this elsewhere, but it seems pertinent here, too.
"Pixlet lets high-end digital film frames play in real time with any Panther Mac, without investing in costly, proprietary playback hardware"
I suppose it all depends how much you have things compressed, but that's quite the statement if they are planning on supporting old 266 MHz G3 iBooks and iMacs.
If Panther will run on my Sage iMac I'll be so freaking happy. Fast User Switching and Expose are worth the price tag. If a G3 450 isn't enough I may have a very hard time not upgrading my Mac.
I suppose it all depends how much you have things compressed, but that's quite the statement if they are planning on supporting old 266 MHz G3 iBooks and iMacs.
I saw someone install the preview on a DP533 tonight and it works amazingly well. The read me documentation states nothing about requiring a DP867 or recomending a DP1Ghz.
In fact I hear it states this in the Panther read me:
Quote:
Power Mac G4
Power Macintish G3 (Blue & White)
Powerbook G4
Powerbook G3 with built in USB
iMac and eMac
iBook
So it seems beige G3, Wallstreet, and Lombard powerbooks are out of luck with this Developer preview and possibly Panther all together.
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Originally posted by der Kopf
Like the title says... I'm still stuck with a 600 MHz G3 and am wondering if this will be enough to let the panther roam free.
If we believe what is said here, Panther
requires DP 867 or better, and DP1GHz is recommended. This probably holds only for the developer preview version.
Originally posted by PB
Panther requires DP 867 or better, and DP1GHz is recommended
Wow! That would leave a LOT of people in the cold. Not to mention righteously PISS OFF very many people.
I would expect to start seeing this situation a year from now.
As Steve said they want to finish out the transition to OS X this year.
Originally posted by der Kopf
Wow! That would leave a LOT of people in the cold. Not to mention righteously PISS OFF very many people.
Well, it's still in alpha, so I'd take those with a grain of salt.
They sure are high though. I'm beginning to wonder if the minimum spec may become something like a G4, or G3 w/ Quartz Extreme.
Originally posted by PB
If we believe what is said here, Panther
requires DP 867 or better, and DP1GHz is recommended. This probably holds only for the developer preview version.
I recall the new Quicktime codec wants a 1 Ghz G4 to do full screen video. I suspect many users will be feeling the pain soon.
Originally posted by BobtheTomato
I recall the new Quicktime codec wants a 1 Ghz G4 to do full screen video. I suspect many users will be feeling the pain soon.
Yeah, but not close to everyone will be watching such high quality video.
Originally posted by der Kopf
Wow! That would leave a LOT of people in the cold. Not to mention righteously PISS OFF very many people.
Thats apples style.
Originally posted by PB
DP 867 or better, and DP1GHz is recommended.
Sheesh, Dual 867 or better? There's only one model you can even buy right now that meets those requirements. They're definitely going to have to bring those down if they even want to sell a single copy at $129. Otherwise, people will just have to get Panther free with their new G5's.
No, seriously, it'll come down. Remember folks, THIS ISN'T FOR YOU... this is for developers. Period. They're used to this.
However, by 2004 there's no more need to support beige G3s and bondi iMacs.
500mhz or better, how's that for arbitrary?
Originally posted by groverat
500mhz or better, how's that for arbitrary?
Sounds definitive enough for me... And, it'll probably get me another year out of the old iBook. Still that's a lot of additional processing power just for debug code... maybe they've got all that running in a separate SMP thread or something, so if you've got a DP 867, it runs like a single 867.
"I can't tell you how much I like exposé. I programmed my middle mouse button to act as the trigger (in the exposé pane of the System Preferences) and it works flawlessly. It is so wonderful when I'm working with 20-30 open windows.
We installed it on a DP450/512 with a Rage128 card (read: no QE) and the performance was nothing short of amazing. I loaded up the system and tried to bog it down but it kept on plugging.
Most noticible observation: all apps open dramatically faster.
Oh yeah, and preview finally is fast."
Exposé does not require QE.
Originally posted by BobtheTomato
I recall the new Quicktime codec wants a 1 Ghz G4 to do full screen video. I suspect many users will be feeling the pain soon.
I posted this elsewhere, but it seems pertinent here, too.
"Pixlet lets high-end digital film frames play in real time with any Panther Mac, without investing in costly, proprietary playback hardware"
I suppose it all depends how much you have things compressed, but that's quite the statement if they are planning on supporting old 266 MHz G3 iBooks and iMacs.
Originally posted by bauman
I suppose it all depends how much you have things compressed, but that's quite the statement if they are planning on supporting old 266 MHz G3 iBooks and iMacs.
Pixlet is a codec meant for pro video editing.
In fact I hear it states this in the Panther read me:
Power Mac G4
Power Macintish G3 (Blue & White)
Powerbook G4
Powerbook G3 with built in USB
iMac and eMac
iBook
So it seems beige G3, Wallstreet, and Lombard powerbooks are out of luck with this Developer preview and possibly Panther all together.
Originally posted by groverat
DP867 or better is not going to happen. No way no freaking how. It makes no sense.
However, by 2004 there's no more need to support beige G3s and bondi iMacs.
500mhz or better, how's that for arbitrary?
NOOOOOOOo i have a bondi imac as a second comp. and i want panther on it.
PS that 1 mhz better be bull shit cuz i got a 800mhz imac
Plus 500mhz min. would leave alot of peeps out