The only two "beach ball makers" I had left were Internet Explorer and the Finder. Safari has taken care of IE, let's hope the new Finder is as stable as it is fast.
I would sure as #$@ hope so. I mean..what, I get a NEW Mac..only ot have it get trounced months later? I know there will be a big pefromance difference betweetn the G5 adn G4 - but panther should *have* to be faster than jag on a G4..please steve?
Will there be more AltiVec G4 optimization? Will it be faster on PowerBook G4s? I was skeptical that Jag would be faster on my iBook but daaaamn it was so I expect Panther to as much of an improvement on the PowerBook G4.
The PDF engine just underwent a *HUGE* speed boost.
Ie, Quartz just got sped up tremendously.
I hope you are right, but performance improvements in Preview could also mean that only this particular application has been heavily optimized. Unless someone knowing more about the new system says otherwise...
I hope you are right, but performance improvements in Preview could also mean that only this particular application has been heavily optimized. Unless someone knowing more about the new system says otherwise...
If I am not terribly mistaken, the app cannot be optimized anymore. An executable which is 128 KB and which only shows pages of PDF files (basically, only interacts with NSImage) is, in general, not subject to optimizations.
Every version of Mac OS X since Public Beta has added more features, yet increased speed. Compare to Windows, where every new version adds 'features', but at the cost of decreased speed - and relies on faster PC hardware to make up the difference.
panther FLIES !! no doubt about it. Runing on my G4 867 with 1gb and its like using a new machine.
Also much faster without QuartzExtreme ( tried on G4 450/640Mb RAM) but screen is not as snappy.
From my own perspective, the biggest difference is in keyboard responsiveness when typing. Remember those grumbles about how slow typing into Terminal was ? ? well not anymore ! It's easily a match for my 2GHz PIV running XP.
The quality of this release is excellent too. The attention to detail everywhere is astounding. Everything I've tried so far has worked: bluetooth, downloading pix off USB camera into Image Capture is probably 3X faster, Wacom tablet, SMS from AddressBook via Bluetooth, X11 ? you name it.
New Finder is fab ?_can't live without it already.
The only problem I think is with the continuous iDisk synchronization ? seems to keep resynching and bogging down the Finder.
Apple have done an amazing job, it's like they stripped out the old vinyl interior and covered everything with the best leather !
What this OS must be like on a G5 I have no idea but it must be amazing ?
Forgot to mention, the overall feel is much more mac OS9 like, from the labels to the menus, to the keyboard shortcuts .. This must finally be the release that wins over all those OS9 die-hards.
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Originally posted by sc_markt
Anybody know?
(Note: I'm not complaining, I'm just curious)
Uhmmm... Heeelllooooo???
To be honest, otherwise, there wouldn't be much incentive to upgrade. I'm not particularly bowled over by the new features in Panther.
No mention of Quartz Extreme or it's successor which was supposed to boost 'snappiness'.
Anyone know if it is 'snappier' that is has better user responsiveness?
Originally posted by rmendis
Anyone have 'stats' on what sort of speed imporovements to expect when going from Jaguar to Panther.
To be honest, otherwise, there wouldn't be much incentive to upgrade. I'm not particularly bowled over by the new features in Panther.
No mention of Quartz Extreme or it's successor which was supposed to boost 'snappiness'.
Anyone know if it is 'snappier' that is has better user responsiveness?
Er, missed the whole Preview portion did you?
Preview uses the PDF engine in Quartz.
So do many many things in the graphics system.
The PDF engine just underwent a *HUGE* speed boost.
Ie, Quartz just got sped up tremendously.
Originally posted by Kickaha
Er, missed the whole Preview portion did you?
Preview uses the PDF engine in Quartz.
So do many many things in the graphics system.
The PDF engine just underwent a *HUGE* speed boost.
Ie, Quartz just got sped up tremendously.
Well, perhaps PDF rendering got sped up.
How come Apple didn't make an issue out of speed improvements then?
What i wish to know if it is snappier...that has largely to do with Mac OS X event handling, i imagine.
Originally posted by Kickaha
Preview uses the PDF engine in Quartz.
So do many many things in the graphics system.
The PDF engine just underwent a *HUGE* speed boost.
Ie, Quartz just got sped up tremendously.
I hope you are right, but performance improvements in Preview could also mean that only this particular application has been heavily optimized. Unless someone knowing more about the new system says otherwise...
Originally posted by PB
I hope you are right, but performance improvements in Preview could also mean that only this particular application has been heavily optimized. Unless someone knowing more about the new system says otherwise...
If I am not terribly mistaken, the app cannot be optimized anymore. An executable which is 128 KB and which only shows pages of PDF files (basically, only interacts with NSImage) is, in general, not subject to optimizations.
Originally posted by costique
If I am not terribly mistaken, the app cannot be optimized anymore.
So, you say that the Preview example is probably a good indication of heavy system-level optimizations? Good to hear that.
I am running an iBook 500... maybe just a faint glimmer of hope?
Maybe it will run without any speed hits? That wouldn't be too bad.
Even if it runs only a touch slower... maybe I could "get used to" that?
C'mon someone, throw me a bone!
Now we have faster Mac hardware too. Holy crap.
Quartz is a LOT more complex than PDFs. And it's OpenGL-accelerated, which I imagine complicates things.
Preview simply displays 2D pdfs, and lets you scroll up and down. What slows down Quartz noticeably is stuff like resizing windows (ugh).
However, I'd have to say that on my 'book, Quartz is pretty "snappy." And apparently Panther has more Quartz Extreme goodness.
Unix never looked so beautiful!
Also much faster without QuartzExtreme ( tried on G4 450/640Mb RAM) but screen is not as snappy.
From my own perspective, the biggest difference is in keyboard responsiveness when typing. Remember those grumbles about how slow typing into Terminal was ? ? well not anymore ! It's easily a match for my 2GHz PIV running XP.
The quality of this release is excellent too. The attention to detail everywhere is astounding. Everything I've tried so far has worked: bluetooth, downloading pix off USB camera into Image Capture is probably 3X faster, Wacom tablet, SMS from AddressBook via Bluetooth, X11 ? you name it.
New Finder is fab ?_can't live without it already.
The only problem I think is with the continuous iDisk synchronization ? seems to keep resynching and bogging down the Finder.
Apple have done an amazing job, it's like they stripped out the old vinyl interior and covered everything with the best leather !
What this OS must be like on a G5 I have no idea but it must be amazing ?