I posted this link a while ago. But here it is again it's an episode of computer chronicles from that movie archive site. They demo Copland in the episode. And now they finally have a QT stream instead of that crappy Real Player shite.
Holy Crap! Do not download the QT version of this episode. The sound is effed up. It sounds like a squirrel on a crystal meth bender. Or maybe you should download it, it's kinda funny.
It was supposed to be Mac OS 8... before Mac OS 8. Tons of R&D were wasted on it, at which point Rhapsody was the next big thing. Then, I remember being at the Apple Market Center when Jobs announced that Rhapsody was dead, and here comes Carbon. All of us there about passed out, watching another "next big thing" kick the bucket.
There was a Copland developer CD on ebay. I know the guy who bought it, he would probably burn you a copy for a price. You need two macs to run it though. Old school macs, like x100 series.
Keep in mind that the "demo" of Copland shown in that episode of Computer Chronicles is nothing more than a canned Director (remeber that app?) animation. The person "demo-ing" Copland is doing nothing more than talking while the animation plays. There is no actual running code shown.
You can find those demo animations on the web if you look hard enough. They came on a CD bundled with the Apple-published book "Mac OS 8 Revealed", among other things.
I really recommend the book "Apple Confidential" by Owen Linzmayer, if you'd like to learn more about Copland.
Apparently, Apple was able to get to a point where they had a working "tech demo" of Copland, which wasn't a Director app but an actual OS (it was still far from usable, though).
IIRC, when OSX/Rhapsody came to the forefront, the feature set was beyond even what Copland's successor, Gershwin, was to have.
When I worked at Apple 1994-1996, I was able to play with Copland for awhile. It did require two machines - but was usable for up to 15 minutes straight. I actually had it installed on my Mac in my cube there. The bootup screen was also REALLY cool. I do wish OS X had that bootup screen
It was actually pretty cool. More of a tech demo than anything else though. The search with v-twin was amazing. That's the one thing that actually worked properly I still wish we could save our searches like you could with Copland.
It was supposed to be Mac OS 8... before Mac OS 8. Tons of R&D were wasted on it, at which point Rhapsody was the next big thing. Then, I remember being at the Apple Market Center when Jobs announced that Rhapsody was dead, and here comes Carbon. All of us there about passed out, watching another "next big thing" kick the bucket.
Rhapsody dead? You do know that Mac OS X is mainly Rhapsody + Carbon.
Rhapsody dead? You do know that Mac OS X is mainly Rhapsody + Carbon.
Apple didn't waste R&D on Rhapsody.
I didn't say Rhapsody was a waste of R&D, now did I? What I said was that one day back in the 90's, after talking about how wonderful the Yellow Box was going to be, Jobs announced over a live satellite feed that we were changing strategies again. Hearing that back then was scary.
In the "demo" was that a precursor to fast-user switching or was it just a fancy appearance manager? When they show that, I thought I saw a Log Out button. Just asking because 1995 was the year the Apple first filed their patent for the concept.
Copland was supposed to catch up with all the other "serious" operating systems out there (Win9x was not a "serious" OS) and add multiple users. *Gasp* Even Copland! I think the way it was supposedly done was more akin to the OS 9 multiple users than to fast user switching in Panther.
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There was a Copland developer CD on ebay. I know the guy who bought it, he would probably burn you a copy for a price. You need two macs to run it though. Old school macs, like x100 series.
You can find those demo animations on the web if you look hard enough. They came on a CD bundled with the Apple-published book "Mac OS 8 Revealed", among other things.
Apparently, Apple was able to get to a point where they had a working "tech demo" of Copland, which wasn't a Director app but an actual OS (it was still far from usable, though).
IIRC, when OSX/Rhapsody came to the forefront, the feature set was beyond even what Copland's successor, Gershwin, was to have.
It was actually pretty cool. More of a tech demo than anything else though. The search with v-twin was amazing. That's the one thing that actually worked properly
Originally posted by LoCash
It was supposed to be Mac OS 8... before Mac OS 8. Tons of R&D were wasted on it, at which point Rhapsody was the next big thing. Then, I remember being at the Apple Market Center when Jobs announced that Rhapsody was dead, and here comes Carbon. All of us there about passed out, watching another "next big thing" kick the bucket.
Rhapsody dead? You do know that Mac OS X is mainly Rhapsody + Carbon.
Apple didn't waste R&D on Rhapsody.
Originally posted by JLL
Rhapsody dead? You do know that Mac OS X is mainly Rhapsody + Carbon.
Apple didn't waste R&D on Rhapsody.
I didn't say Rhapsody was a waste of R&D, now did I? What I said was that one day back in the 90's, after talking about how wonderful the Yellow Box was going to be, Jobs announced over a live satellite feed that we were changing strategies again. Hearing that back then was scary.