Apple Settles Suit Over OSX on G3

chinney · August 14, 2003 9:00AM

I had not heard about this suit.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5063290.html

Are some older G3 users still having trouble using OSX, or is this suit just dealing with something that is now history? I have never had any trouble using OSX on my G3 iMac, but mine admittedly, is a newer one (Summer 2001 edition).

cubedude · August 14, 2003 11:40AM

Man, that thing is old!

raimac · August 14, 2003 1:25PM

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Originally posted by Chinney

I had not heard about this suit.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5063290.html

Are some older G3 users still having trouble using OSX, or is this suit just dealing with something that is now history? I have never had any trouble using OSX on my G3 iMac, but mine admittedly, is a newer one (Summer 2001 edition).

I used to have a Beige 266/192 MB RAM/4GB Desktop model, I couldn't take advantage of anything. Too slow to do everything. I put a 30GB HD and installed Jaguar, all went better but it was not usable at all.

xool · August 14, 2003 2:19PM

Think about bondi iMacs w/ 233 MHz G3s, 32 MB Ram, and 2 MB of VRam. Not pretty. Hell, our Rev D 333 iMac barely runs Jag acceptably. Granted, Panther does run a little better.

I have a beast of a Beige G3 tower, top o' the line at the time. I haven't touched it in a while... note sure if it even has Jag on it. Maybe I'll play with it some more once Panther's out. Hmmm...

Anyhow, all those iMac buyers saved Apple. Its too bad that the machines (5+ years old at this point) are too underpowered for X.

chinney · August 14, 2003 2:46PM

I think that, in reality, there has to be some acceptance that old hardware might not be able to run the newest software. This has generally been the way things work in computer systems development, given the fast and symbiotic advances in hardware and software. It appears, however, that the problem in this case was that Apple seems to have made some sort of promise that OSX would be functional on all G3s.

millhouse · August 14, 2003 5:10PM

ok, so how do i fit in to this now? i bought a powermac g3 blue and white from my dad's college, and my teacher got me X for teachers, so does that mean that i qualify for all this rebate stuff?

jll · August 14, 2003 5:27PM

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Originally posted by millhouse

ok, so how do i fit in to this now? i bought a powermac g3 blue and white from my dad's college, and my teacher got me X for teachers, so does that mean that i qualify for all this rebate stuff?

No, the B&W is not covered.

millhouse · August 14, 2003 6:42PM

darn it, well it should be, this is angering and quite frankly kinda sucks

outsider · August 14, 2003 8:04PM

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Originally posted by millhouse

darn it, well it should be, this is angering and quite frankly kinda sucks

What a loser. You got X for free and still want to milk money out of Apple? You know you have to pony up proof of purchase.

aquatic · August 14, 2003 8:39PM

Apple really fscked up when they made bold statements about X and G3s. They should have kept their mouth shut. Jackie Chiles showed up and kicked their butt. It's like suing a company for spilling hot coffee on yourself. If you think a new OS and paradigm is going to work on a computer from 5 or 6 years ago you wrong and it's not the company's fault. Apple has WAY better support than MS. OS 7.6.1 ran on computers 5 or 6 years old, that is a feat. Same with 9.2.2, it can be made to run on really archaic hardware! I guess people just got used to it.

jwill · August 14, 2003 9:37PM

Under the system requirements it says you can run it on a G3, and you can. Just not as fast and not as full-featured (no Quartz Extreme). Unless you're talking about some really old G3's, then I have no real say.

jll · August 15, 2003 3:45AM

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Originally posted by millhouse

darn it, well it should be, this is angering and quite frankly kinda sucks

Mac OS X supports your ATI Rage 128, it supports DVD playing, it supports the ports it has and so on.

serrano · August 15, 2003 7:28AM

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Originally posted by millhouse

darn it, well it should be, this is angering and quite frankly kinda sucks

Your Blue & White, like mine, can be taken to a gig of ram, a PCI Radeon 32mb, hardware raid, overclocked, firewire, G4 upgrades, et cetera...

My 450/576Ram/Radeon runs Jag more than acceptably and 10.3 is only better.

kingofsomewherehot · August 15, 2003 8:06AM

I run 10.2.6 on an iMac 266 ... no problems whatsoever!

millhouse · August 15, 2003 12:27PM

yea, but 25 bucks would still be nice, oh well as long as the other g3 folks get it thats good, it is good to see apple fixing this, i wonder if this means they will change panther's requirements to support beige's

jll · August 15, 2003 12:42PM

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Originally posted by millhouse

yea, but 25 bucks would still be nice, oh well as long as the other g3 folks get it thats good, it is good to see apple fixing this, i wonder if this means they will change panther's requirements to support beige's

Why? And risk another suit? Panther won't support OldWorld Macs.

pscates · August 15, 2003 12:53PM

Since there are a couple of versions of G3 hardware (pre-iMac beige stuff and then the post 1998 jellybean, curvy stuff), Apple should just cover their butt and say "Panther only works worth a crap on anything colored, curvy or see-through or ultra-cool-looking. If it's square with sharp edges, kinda beige in color and has a SCSI port, bug off!".

That covers the iMacs and iBooks, the Cube, towers from the blue and white G3 and after, and the PowerBooks.

fahlman · August 15, 2003 3:30PM

Runnin' 10.2.6 on a 233MHz iMac with 256MB Ram. No problems. The operator claims that it is more responsive than when it had 9.X on it.

scott · August 20, 2003 10:25PM

Ahhh good. I'll see if I can get the money I wasted on OS X back from Apple.

pb · August 21, 2003 4:11AM

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Originally posted by fahlman

Runnin' 10.2.6 on a 233MHz iMac with 256MB Ram. No problems. The operator claims that it is more responsive than when it had 9.X on it.

Apple Settles Suit Over OSX on G3

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