Baton Rouge soldier Baptized inTigris : IRAQ

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Is the US trying to send a "hidden message " to the Iraqi people by having US soldiers baptized in the Tigris ?



I respect that as individuals these soldiers have every right to be baptized where they please..but I wonder if they aren't being used a little by the US governemnt's publicity machine..



Wonder how the mullahs view it..as well ?



Http:http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/...ldier001.shtml
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aquafire

    Is the US trying to send a "hidden message " to the Iraqi people by having US soldiers baptized in the Tigris ?



    I respect that as individuals these soldiers have every right to be baptized where they please..but I wonder if they aren't being used a little by the US governemnt's publicity machine..



    Wonder how the mullahs view it..as well ?



    Http:http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/...ldier001.shtml




    I doubt it. I think most of these folks are just religious and want to get their house in order at a time when they see folks being killed all around them.



    Sort of gives a different meaning to tomorrow when you watch others killed today.



    Nick
  • Reply 2 of 29
    "There are no atheist in foxholes!"



    - General Steele, M*A*S*H
  • Reply 3 of 29
    aquafireaquafire Posts: 2,758member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by segovius

    Aqua - what is the BR ment to signify in the header ? I thought it was maybe a typo and you meant the second letter to be S



    A tease on our BR...No not really..

    It is reference to the soldiers coming from Baton Rouge..that's where I lifted the article..
  • Reply 4 of 29
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by segovius

    I guess that's why a lot of US personnell are converting to Islam.



    Seems a better bet to me, after all you don't have to get baptised and God knows what's lurking in the Tigris these days. Last time I saw that river it looked like it was pure DU.



    Hey, maybe this isn't religious at all - just the army's Phase 2 of 'Operation let's mess about with dangerous chemicals' for those who've so far avoided the innoculations.




    I don't really care to what religion they convert. The question was is it propoganda or are the religious conversions legitimate. I said considering the bullets flying, most of the religious conversions, regardless of what religion, are legitimate.



    Nick
  • Reply 5 of 29
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    I don't really care to what religion they convert. The question was is it propoganda or are the religious conversions legitimate. I said considering the bullets flying, most of the religious conversions, regardless of what religion, are legitimate.



    Being legitimate doesn't negate them from being propaganda.
  • Reply 6 of 29
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    Being legitimate doesn't negate them from being propaganda.



    I don't get your point then. I could understand what you are claiming if theres was a portrayal of this being a trend or mass movement or something of that nature. However the article protrays it as between 3-16 individuals over the course of almost a month reaffirming their faith when they are away from their families, under increasing fire, and are in a scenario where death can be swift and sudden.



    I mean if someone ran a story about someone fighting cancer and praying to get better, or that more people suddenly became religious I wouldn't consider it propaganda. Religion in society likely has origins in attempting to understand the nature of or actions, our place in the world, and of course death. I see fighting in a war as bringing some of those questions to the forefront and thus bringing religion to the forefront.



    Nick
  • Reply 7 of 29
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aquafire

    A tease on our BR...No not really..

    It is reference to the soldiers coming from Baton Rouge..that's where I lifted the article..




    I have edited your title , by changing BR to Baton Rouge. I am quite sure nobody understanded that BR was the first letters of Baton Rouge (red wand), but one of our most active poster.

    Using a name of a forum member is forbidden by the guidelines, so i edited this thread. I am sure that the same amount of members will read or participate of this thread : no weird advertising is needed in the titles.
  • Reply 8 of 29
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by segovius

    I guess that's why a lot of US personnell are converting to Islam.



    Seems a better bet to me, after all you don't have to get baptised and God knows what's lurking in the Tigris these days. Last time I saw that river it looked like it was pure DU.



    ...




    I'm curious to know you think you know about DU and how dangerous it might be?
  • Reply 9 of 29
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    I don't get your point then. I could understand what you are claiming if theres was a portrayal of this being a trend or mass movement or something of that nature. However the article protrays it as between 3-16 individuals over the course of almost a month reaffirming their faith when they are away from their families, under increasing fire, and are in a scenario where death can be swift and sudden.



    I'm just wondering how public of a display it is in Iraq. The act could be abused in this sense, even if it's real for those partaking.



    As a side note, if it's so few individuals why is it getting any coverage from the leftist media? I mean, I can only imagine there are far greater numbers of disillusioned solders or ones that have negative stories about our presence in Iraq. Why this relatively minor story? Strange leftist media...
  • Reply 10 of 29
    baton rouge is the home of jimmy swaggert, they are the buckle in the bible belt. but they have a lot of hookers on airline drive, i found that amusing.

    the cypress tree bark was used to divide the city between two indian tribes. i lived in the holiday inn there for two months, and by the end i was ready to be baptised.
  • Reply 11 of 29
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    So if an Iraqi christen were to this it would be okay?
  • Reply 12 of 29
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Scott

    So if an Iraqi christen were to this it would be okay?



    If this were directed at me, I'd say an Iraqi could do whatever he wanted. The US government/military are the peoples that need to be cautious.
  • Reply 13 of 29
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    I'm just wondering how public of a display it is in Iraq. The act could be abused in this sense, even if it's real for those partaking.



    As a side note, if it's so few individuals why is it getting any coverage from the leftist media? I mean, I can only imagine there are far greater numbers of disillusioned solders or ones that have negative stories about our presence in Iraq. Why this relatively minor story? Strange leftist media...




    24/7/365 is a large hole to fill.



    Nick
  • Reply 14 of 29
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    I saw someone get baptised in a pool once. That's pretty low end.
  • Reply 15 of 29
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    24/7/365 is a large hole to fill.



    Nick




    Not if you fill it with everything that's a bigger story that this appears to be....
  • Reply 16 of 29
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by segovius

    was it the same Holiday Inn that Swaggart got caught with the hooker in ?



    Are you implying that superkarate monkeydeathcar was the hooker??!?
  • Reply 17 of 29
    i thought he got caught in nola, i was in baton rouge for a month in '86, and my two month stay was a year later just after he'd announced he had sinned. it killed the city he was the third biggest employer after the university and the post office or something like that.

    but it was not the same hotel, his was a motel with an outside entrance.

    and as anyone will tell you in the south, you get rooms with inside entrances unless you want to share your bed with bugs you could saddle.

    you know he's been caught 3 or 4 times since don't you?

    he never has sex, but he watches porn while the hooker flogs him.

    actually, i'd like to hang with swag.
  • Reply 18 of 29
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    Are you implying that superkarate monkeydeathcar was the hooker??!?



    my real name is "fred garvin, male prostitue, from bettendorf iowa, servicing the ladies of the quad cities for 13 years now."
  • Reply 19 of 29
    any way back on topic, is the tigris in anyway a holla holla (holiest of holies) for christians? because even the baptized got baptized again in the jordan river when i was there. it was like "o brother where art thou" or something.
  • Reply 20 of 29
    aquafireaquafire Posts: 2,758member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Powerdoc

    I have edited your title , by changing BR to Baton Rouge. I am quite sure nobody understanded that BR was the first letters of Baton Rouge (red wand), but one of our most active poster.

    Using a name of a forum member is forbidden by the guidelines, so i edited this thread. I am sure that the same amount of members will read or participate of this thread : no weird advertising is needed in the titles.




    That's OK...It's just that I was using the exact title of a newspaper headline to link..

    Also wasn't sure exactly how many letters one can squeeze into post title without it spilling into a second line. Could you let me know. thanx
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