Rumor: Disaster at MWNY... :(

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Spymac is reporting that the G4 will be stuck at 1.2 GHz, and that as an act of desperation, Apple will make ALL powermacs dual processor.



Spymac DID nail the eMac rumor, so they certainly have some good sources. The question is if this report is based on a good source. What's scary is that Spymac usually errs on the side of optimism...
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  • Reply 1 of 266
    Given the 1.2 Ghz bump I don't think it's out of the question to see uniform dual processors. (except in the iMac/eMac line where consumers don't want to pay for that) Would this also include DDR support, GeForce Ti, or some of the other 'requested upgrades'? Just food for thought. I think spymac is reading our posts and making a 'safe generalization'.
  • Reply 2 of 266
    the g5the g5 Posts: 42member
    with this info, would you say the new powermac speeds would be: 933, 1.0, and 1.2? that sounds pretty bad to me



    going with all dual machines sounds like a neat idea, but now it will be even harder for me to afford one.
  • Reply 3 of 266
    sounds good. the important question is whether they break the fsb bottleneck.



    something like:



    2x800

    2x1 Ghz

    2x1.2 Ghz



    would rock.



    ting5
  • Reply 4 of 266
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Apple is slowly but surely fooking themselves.
  • Reply 5 of 266
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    Don't know how much weight can be thrown at that rumor considering that Spymac says it's not from trusted sources, it's from an anonymous tipster (could be Meader for all we know), and then the other part that is just ridiculous is that they base part of the rumor on the fact that an Apple rep said to do video and graphics work on a dual machine. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 5 of 266
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    This is extra-troubling because of the Powerlogix 1 GHz upgrades. If people can buy a dual 1 GHz upgrade card, then why buy a $3500 Powermac if they are stuck at 1.2 GHz?



    Hell the CURRENT 1 GHZ G4 boxes can be overclocked to 1.2 GHZ no problem!



    What this would mean is that Moto has hit another barrier, much like the 500 MHz barrier. Also, Moto has said before that the G4 isn't going to scale much beyond 1 GHz.



    If this is all Apple's got, then they should make it another silent update and plan on pro sales taking a major hit. This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.
  • Reply 7 of 266
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>This is extra-troubling because of the Powerlogix 1 GHz upgrades. If people can buy a dual 1 GHz upgrade card, then why buy a $3500 Powermac if they are stuck at 1.2 GHz?



    Hell the CURRENT 1 GHZ G4 boxes can be overclocked to 1.2 GHZ no problem!



    What this would mean is that Moto has hit another barrier, much like the 500 MHz barrier. Also, Moto has said before that the G4 isn't going to scale much beyond 1 GHz.



    If this is all Apple's got, then they should make it another silent update and plan on pro sales taking a major hit. This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Bah. You don't know your elbow from your *******. It's ALWAYS the end of Apple, and yet it continues on. Really, you should just bail if it's a problem for you.



    And don't give me that "I care about the platform" excuse, either, because you don't. You just care about things like specs and speed ratings because your life is devoid of other meaning (or some other psycho/neurological condition as yet undignosed). If the Mac no longer is cost-effective or underpowered for your tastes, move on.



    But most of all, just shut up.



    ting5
  • Reply 8 of 266
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    Ok, dipsh!t, if I only care about specs and speed ratings, then explain why I'm content with my Powermac G4 400, w/ Radeon?



    Explain why I intend to keep this computer another 2-3 years, and to never spend over $400 on a CPU upgrade?



    I think it's YOU who's got some weird psych disorder. What's more pathological...being concerned about a lack of competitive hardware from Apple, or lashing out with personal attacks whenever someone expresses such concern?



    You tell me.
  • Reply 9 of 266
    sizzle chestsizzle chest Posts: 1,133member
    If they went with 933DP / 1ghz DP / 1.2ghz DP, all with DDR, and the top 2 with Superdrives, at the current Powermac price points, that wouldn't be too bad. I'd probably pick one up. A dual 1.2 w/ DDR would be substantially faster than the current dual 1.0.ghz
  • Reply 10 of 266
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    I think it's funny how we rip on everyone else being stuck on Mhz - and yet we freak out when PowerMacs might only get a 200mhz bump - when realistically - their speed bump might be much, much higher given a new FSB and RAM.
  • Reply 10 of 266
    sorry -redundant post



    [ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: pey/coy-ote ]</p>
  • Reply 12 of 266
    pookjppookjp Posts: 280member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>Ok, dipsh!t, if I only care about specs and speed ratings, then explain why I'm content with my Powermac G4 400, w/ Radeon?



    Explain why I intend to keep this computer another 2-3 years, and to never spend over $400 on a CPU upgrade?



    I think it's YOU who's got some weird psych disorder. What's more pathological...being concerned about a lack of competitive hardware from Apple, or lashing out with personal attacks whenever someone expresses such concern?



    You tell me.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well said.
  • Reply 13 of 266
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    [quote]Originally posted by There is no g5:

    <strong>





    Bah. You don't know your elbow from your *******. It's ALWAYS the end of Apple, and yet it continues on. Really, you should just bail if it's a problem for you.



    And don't give me that "I care about the platform" excuse, either, because you don't. You just care about things like specs and speed ratings because your life is devoid of other meaning (or some other psycho/neurological condition as yet undignosed). If the Mac no longer is cost-effective or underpowered for your tastes, move on.



    But most of all, just shut up.



    ting5</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Amen. Besides a 20% speed bump ain't bad. What's everyone want, 1.6 Ghz duals (yeah right a 60% speed bump because Moto worked some Mojo)



    reality is a B!tch ain't it.
  • Reply 14 of 266
    mrsparklemrsparkle Posts: 120member
    Spymac is horrible.
  • Reply 15 of 266
    mattyjmattyj Posts: 898member
    This is ridiculous.



    If this happens, it won't be the first time according to some....



    Apple should produce proper DDR266 1.4Ghz G4s at MWNY, and thats modest...
  • Reply 16 of 266
    First, Spymac isn't exactly a reliable source. Remember the whole iPad fiasco? That's what put it on the map. Not exactly a good start.



    Second, you talk as if dual 1.2GHz is a bad thing. I'd much rather have a dual 1.2GHz computer than a single 1.4 or even 1.6. Everyone in computing is saying that the answer for future faster processors isn't clock speed but rather more efficient design.



    And the big update with the next PowerMacs isn't in MHz, it's in the motherboard. They could keep the current speeds and throw in DDR and it would still be a huge upgrade. You people place way too much weight on clock speed.



    [ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: Rasputin ]</p>
  • Reply 17 of 266
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    So you guys don't think that Apple needs to compete with the 2.5 GHZ Pentium 4 systems out there?
  • Reply 18 of 266
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    If I had a nickel...
  • Reply 19 of 266
    The problem here is as follows:



    IT'S SPYMAC!



    The people who brought you the iWalk, and then the iWalk part 2. Sure, they've had SOME good info since then, but don't think that they don't throw a lot of BS in with that occasion good info.



    And as mentioned above, this "rumor" is from an anonymous tipster, based only on an Apple Rep's statement that graphics pros should only buy Dual Ghz machines.



    First I'd like to dispel some things. Most Apple Reps don't know jack about future products. Every Apple employee I know follows the rumors just like the "commoners." Only a handful of people know what is coming *for sure* in NY, but still, only some of those who work AT the campus and a couple outside would even know what's in development.



    Second, there was a comment on Spymac that the Dual machines have a lot more problems than single proc machines and that the rep was probably just trying to sell some stuff. Let me again say that that is BS. I know that there's no particular model that has more problems than any other. If anything, there are more problems with the 733/867/933 machines because more of them were sold!



    Let me just say this much: I didn't predict Dual 1.5 Ghz machines randomly. I have some damn good reasons for picking that number. One never knows with Apple, but 1.5 Ghz is a number that has some meaning.



    1.2 Ghz would've been an update worthy of LAST Macworld NY, when there was a near riot. Somehow there we went from 1 733 to 2 800s and it was crappy, but we'd all be happy with 2 1000 going to 2 1200? No WAY.



    We all know that Junkyard Dawg is an incredibly pessimistic poster (Apple is doomed! etc etc etc) and this Spymac post is only adding to it. I could just as easily post something elsewhere saying Dual 1.5 Ghz, would that make anyone believe it more? All I'm saying is, don't take Spymac at its word--they are FAR from the final say in new products, and once again, my sources seem to conflict with theirs...
  • Reply 20 of 266
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    I believe that a DP1.2 with DDR as per Server and Jaguar = &gt;50% performance improvement of current machines.



    That is a BIG improvement.



    However, my guess is that Apple has more up it sleve than that. The simple fact that UG cards have hit 1GHZ SPEAKS VOLUMES.
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