anti ripping protection on new cds

seth · September 17, 2003 9:49PM

i just bought the new adema cd 'unstable'. as i do with all the cds i buy, i tried ripping it so that i could add it to my mp3 collection. but it has a new thing where the files are "protected" and it won't let me rip them properly. the files copy but it plays very distorted. i am able to copy the songs to my hard drive through the program on the cd, but they only play in windows media player (i ordered a powerbook, but it hasn't come yet, so i'm still on windows). and i want to use winamp, but it won't let me. is there anyway to get around the file protection? would i need to use a special program for this?

-seth

seth · September 17, 2003 9:50PM

i just want to get the files into mp3 format and unprotected if possible, but mainly just the mp3 format.

-seth

scott · September 17, 2003 9:50PM

You have bought a defective CD. Return it for a refund.

seth · September 17, 2003 9:52PM

it's actually legit. they're trying to do this to all the cds. right now this protection thing is in a testing phase. but they are trying to expand it to all the music media out there.

scott · September 17, 2003 9:57PM

I know they think it's ligit but it's not for me. I would return it as defective. Because it is.

ibrowse · September 17, 2003 10:10PM

I would return it too, then I would write a letter to the band telling them that until they produce a fully functional CD of that album, I will not own it. It would probably take several hundred letters to a whole lot of bands before they realize that they are making music to please their fans, and not the RIAA etc... but, I'd still write them to let them know they let me down.

alcimedes · September 17, 2003 10:12PM

if you have the patience, and you're pissed off enough, your best bet would be to exchange it for the same thing.

then exchange that one.

then exchange that one. keep doing that until you get a CD of theirs that is not defective. since you won't, you'll just keep sending them back until they give you a refund. it should also help retailers know they don't want to carry these lame ass crippled cd's.

luca · September 17, 2003 10:13PM

Some copy protection doesn't work when used on a Mac, but I'd definitely say you should return it because it won't play in your CD player (don't say it's a computer, because your computer is a CD player). Ask for a refund, then download the songs from a peer-to-peer network. If the artists want to get paid anything (even the few cents they get from your $15+ you spend for the CD), they should demand their CD isn't copy protected. Although I really don't know how much control the artist has - right now it seems fairly random which CDs are copy protected and which aren't.

scott · September 17, 2003 10:14PM

Did it have a sticker of some kind on it? Something to "inform" you of the great new "security" systems on it to "protect" you from "piracy"?

seth · September 17, 2003 10:31PM

thanks for the replies.. i've returned the cd. the girl at the store was really nice about it. she said that she would recommend to the manager not to carry cds like that anymore. but yea, thanks for all your input... we really should do something to show the music industry that we enjoy listening to music without worrying about how we'd be able to store it and so on. i really am pissed. i hope all this anti piracy shit just blows over. till then, i just have to watch what i buy.

-seth

superkarate monkeydeathcar · September 17, 2003 10:36PM

protect your rights, join the EFF

ibrowse · September 17, 2003 10:38PM

Well I'm glad you returned it alright, but I'm sorry you didn't get the album you wanted.

\ It is completely ridiculous to think that I'd want to own an album that I could only listen to in WMP. Maybe they have it on iTMS? Then you could at least get it on your PowerBook when it comes.

torifile · September 17, 2003 10:47PM

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Originally posted by iBrowse

Well I'm glad you returned it alright, but I'm sorry you didn't get the album you wanted. \ It is completely ridiculous to think that I'd want to own an album that I could only listen to in WMP. Maybe they have it on iTMS? Then you could at least get it on your PowerBook when it comes.

They do. It's $9.99 for the cd. Get it from there and burn all the cds you want. Distribute them to friends who can't get iTMS and say "screw you" to the RIAA. Damn bastards.

seth · September 17, 2003 11:12PM

alright, thanks guys, i'll check out iTMS when i get my powerbook. hopefully it'll be soon. i can't stand windows anymore. i've been waiting for the new powerbook to come out for quite a long time, so i'm really anxious to get it now.

ionyz · September 17, 2003 11:39PM

Dealing with this crap on import CDs. Particularly anything from Avex Mode (think Ayumi Hamasaki). There are a few copy-protection crackers for Windows I'll have to look into, one good thing about work we have a bunch of Dells

I buy a CD, I'm going to listen to it in iTunes and on my iPod.

moogs · September 18, 2003 12:32AM

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Originally posted by seth

it's actually legit. they're trying to do this to all the cds. right now this protection thing is in a testing phase. but they are trying to expand it to all the music media out there.

Totally FUBAR.

moogs · September 18, 2003 12:59AM

That's good that you say that; I just purchased a Massive Attack CD.

not unlike myself · September 18, 2003 7:16AM

I didn't know anyone still bought cds.....

hassan i sabbah · September 18, 2003 9:16AM

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Originally posted by torifile

They do. It's $9.99 for the cd. Get it from there and burn all the cds you want. Distribute them to friends who can't get iTMS and say "screw you" to the RIAA. Damn bastards.

iTMS is all groovy and that, but what if he wants to rip the CD he bought as an AIFF and listen to it the way it's actually supposed to sound?

Damn bastards indeed, though. With you on that.

moogs · September 18, 2003 9:52AM

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Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself

I didn't know anyone still bought cds.....

I'm one of the guys who downloads what I need to to discern if I LIKE the music. Then if I think I might enjoy the CD, I will buy it. This is how the system should work. I don't get forced into buying something I've never heard, and the musicians don't get scammed because I buy nothing. And the record label gets to rake me over the coals with their inflated CD prices (even via Amazon), but not nearly as often as they used to.

Perfect.

not unlike myself · September 18, 2003 9:57AM

I buy about 6 cds a year. All through secondhand channels.... half, ebay, amazonused, etc.

Haven't been in a record store in... hell since before '99.

To me all 'new' music is dead. It gets chewed and recycled so fast that I see no point in spending more then $5 for the used copy a week after it comes out. iTMS is awsome. Amen for a new tomm. where I can get *ALL* the music I want through them.

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