What is the next big step for each Apple product?

dferigmudferigmu
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Well, what do you guys think?



Powermac: 2-3 Ghz G5 by end of 2004?

iMac: color-cases, G4 7457 or G5?

eMac: new G3 by IBM?

Powerbook: G5 by end of 2004?

iBook: new G3 by IBM?

iPod: color screen, video capabilities?



Well, what do you guys think? I have no idea, so I'm putting this thread out to bring together what everyone has heard so far.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Powermac: 3 Ghz G5

    iMac: faster g4

    eMac: faster g4, g3 would be a step back

    Powerbook: G5

    iBook: g4

    iPod: color screen, video capabilities





  • Reply 2 of 30
    neilybneilyb Posts: 128member
    PowerMac:

    2.5 Ghz G5 May 04

    3 Ghz G5 Nov 04



    iMac:

    1.6 Ghz G4 March 04

    1.8 Ghz G5 Dec 04



    Powerbook:

    1.6 G4 May 04

    2 Ghz G5 by Jan 05



    iBook:

    1 Ghz G3 Nov 03

    1.2 Ghz G3 May 04

    1.4 Ghz G4 Jan 05



    iPod:

    recording features Jan 04

    60 GB Jan 04
  • Reply 3 of 30
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    The next big step?



    The giant whoosh sound of Motorola being pushed out the door like a snake-skin jacket and gold rimmed sunglass wearing cokehead being thrown out the door of moderately popular nightclub by some 350 pound former college football player-turned bouncer for harassing the clientele and once too often pissing off the manager.



    That. Felt. Good.



    No seriously, I think we'll see IBM's so-beefy-you-might-as-well-call-it-a-G4 G3 in the consumer line. Fast bus, good clockspeed, and low power consumption.



    I do not see the G5 in anything other than the pro desktops and the Powerbooks through early summer.



    Screed
  • Reply 4 of 30
    overtoastyovertoasty Posts: 439member
    Just one quick dumb-ass question ...



    What the hell is IBM doing with all those lame-o 970's that must be rolling out of the fab, yet can't get past, say ... 1Ghz or so ...?



    There's got to be a lot of 'em (or am I mistaken?) and if so, even at 1Ghz, a 970 is still a plenty fine chip AFAIK ...



    So, what gives?
  • Reply 5 of 30
    mac man 020581mac man 020581 Posts: 632member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NeilyB

    iPod:

    recording features Jan 04



    Would that be available in a firmware update or a completely new generation of the iPod?
  • Reply 6 of 30
    dferigmudferigmu Posts: 269member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NeilyB

    PowerMac:

    2.5 Ghz G5 May 04

    3 Ghz G5 Nov 04



    iMac:

    1.6 Ghz G4 March 04

    1.8 Ghz G5 Dec 04



    Powerbook:

    1.6 G4 May 04

    2 Ghz G5 by Jan 05



    iBook:

    1 Ghz G3 Nov 03

    1.2 Ghz G3 May 04

    1.4 Ghz G4 Jan 05



    iPod:

    recording features Jan 04

    60 GB Jan 04



    Are those just guesses, or are they absed on actual rumors?
  • Reply 7 of 30
    neilybneilyb Posts: 128member
    i pulled those out of my, ahem, backside



    NeilyB
  • Reply 8 of 30
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Next big step for each apple product?



    to step into my house
  • Reply 9 of 30
    dferigmudferigmu Posts: 269member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NeilyB

    i pulled those out of my, ahem, backside



    NeilyB







    Too bad!
  • Reply 10 of 30
    mr. bobmr. bob Posts: 33member
    IBM delivers the chips ahead of schedule.



    PowerMac

    2.5 G5 Jan 2004

    3.0 G5 July 2004



    iMac

    1.8 G5 Dec 2003

    2.2 G5 May 2004



    Powerbook

    1.8 G5 Jan 2004 17"

    1.6 G4 Jan 2004 15" Widescreen

    1.4 G4 Jan 2004 12"



    2.2 G5 July 2004 17"

    2.0 G5 July 2004 15" Widescreen

    1.6 G4 July 2004 12"



    iBook

    1.0 G3 Dec 2003 12"

    1.1 G3 Dec 2003 14"



    1.3 G3 May 2004 12"

    1.4 G4 May 2004 14"



    8) 8)
  • Reply 11 of 30
    aries 1baries 1b Posts: 1,009member
    The Quicktake Digital Camera will remain dead.



    The N*wton will remain unsupported, unloved, and increasingly forgotten.



    Of course, there will be no 'Tabletification' of the iPod.



    You heard it here first, right here on... APPLE INSIDER.



    Aries 1B reporting; back to you, anyone else....
  • Reply 12 of 30
    dferigmudferigmu Posts: 269member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Bob

    IBM delivers the chips ahead of schedule.



    PowerMac

    2.5 G5 Jan 2004

    3.0 G5 July 2004



    iMac

    1.8 G5 Dec 2003

    2.2 G5 May 2004



    Powerbook

    1.8 G5 Jan 2004 17"

    1.6 G4 Jan 2004 15" Widescreen

    1.4 G4 Jan 2004 12"



    2.2 G5 July 2004 17"

    2.0 G5 July 2004 15" Widescreen

    1.6 G4 July 2004 12"



    iBook

    1.0 G3 Dec 2003 12"

    1.1 G3 Dec 2003 14"



    1.3 G3 May 2004 12"

    1.4 G4 May 2004 14"



    8) 8)



    Yeah, I wish!
  • Reply 13 of 30
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NeilyB

    PowerMac:

    2.5 Ghz G5 May 04

    3 Ghz G5 Nov 04



    iMac:

    1.6 Ghz G4 March 04

    1.8 Ghz G5 Dec 04



    Powerbook:

    1.6 G4 May 04

    2 Ghz G5 by Jan 05



    iBook:

    1 Ghz G3 Nov 03

    1.2 Ghz G3 May 04

    1.4 Ghz G4 Jan 05



    iPod:

    recording features Jan 04

    60 GB Jan 04



    If the iBook is just at 1.4ghz it won't sell by 2005.
  • Reply 14 of 30
    cubistcubist Posts: 954member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aries 1B

    The Quicktake Digital Camera will remain dead.



    The N*wton will remain unsupported, unloved, and increasingly forgotten.



    Of course, there will be no 'Tabletification' of the iPod.



    You heard it here first, right here on... APPLE INSIDER.



    Aries 1B reporting; back to you, anyone else....



    Now those are some solid predictions! But what about Apple-branded printers and scanners? Will they come back?
  • Reply 15 of 30
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by OverToasty

    Just one quick dumb-ass question ...



    What the hell is IBM doing with all those lame-o 970's that must be rolling out of the fab, yet can't get past, say ... 1Ghz or so ...?



    There's got to be a lot of 'em (or am I mistaken?) and if so, even at 1Ghz, a 970 is still a plenty fine chip AFAIK ...



    So, what gives?



    If IBM's fab is up to speed there might not be a lot of chips that dont meet the 1.6 Ghz specs. By earlier reports they even have them comming of the line at speeds of up to 2.5 Ghz, and that was before any computers were shipping using the chip. As I understand it, yields go up the longer the fab is on line due to trouble shooting, and "tweeking" the fab process. Based on this, I doubt that IBM is selling any chips below the 1.6 Ghz bottom end that Apple is currently recieving, and wont unless they design a low power model for mobile computing which might cost more mhz for mhz than the standard 970.



    I may be way off base with this analysis, but there is my 2¢.
  • Reply 16 of 30
    rickagrickag Posts: 1,626member
    Because Mr. Jobs has been quoted saying a 3GHz within a year, a Dual 3.0GHz tower in June/July isn't much of a prediction.



    The next big thing will occur at the end of the year - The IBM 980 will appear. Because it will be on a 0.09µm process, it will be hot, but will have L3 cache, will address shortcomings in integer performance and have hyperthreading. No dual core and no on die controller, yet. That's for the 0.065µm process at the end of 2005 early 2006.



    This is based on absolutely no knowledge, no insider information and is purely a guess and therefore probably very wrong.
  • Reply 17 of 30
    robbyrobby Posts: 108member
    maybe apple will kill the 12" ibook and go 14" across the line with their new ibm chip watever it's called
  • Reply 18 of 30
    dferigmudferigmu Posts: 269member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JCG

    If IBM's fab is up to speed there might not be a lot of chips that dont meet the 1.6 Ghz specs. By earlier reports they even have them comming of the line at speeds of up to 2.5 Ghz, and that was before any computers were shipping using the chip. As I understand it, yields go up the longer the fab is on line due to trouble shooting, and "tweeking" the fab process. Based on this, I doubt that IBM is selling any chips below the 1.6 Ghz bottom end that Apple is currently recieving, and wont unless they design a low power model for mobile computing which might cost more mhz for mhz than the standard 970.



    I may be way off base with this analysis, but there is my 2¢.



    What is "the fab"? Is that a new chip by IBM that uses less power?
  • Reply 19 of 30
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dferigmu

    What is "the fab"? Is that a new chip by IBM that uses less power?



    Short for "fabrication process", the process by which chips are manufactured.
  • Reply 20 of 30
    tommybrandotommybrando Posts: 118member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Robby

    maybe apple will kill the 12" ibook and go 14" across the line with their new ibm chip watever it's called



    Why would apple kill the 12" iBook? The 12" screen is actually a FEATURE to many people who just want a small, affordable, durable laptop, and the bigger the screen, the larger the footprint. That's why Apple intro'd the 12" powerbook. People wanted the highend power of the G4 powerbooks, but the footprint of the 12" iBook.



    You heard it here, the 12" iBook isn't going ANYWHERE.
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