The next Powermacs.
Steve says we'll be at 3ghz by the the end of Summer 2004, So what happens between now and then?
My guess is that there will be a speed bump, but not a big one, the 3ghz level is obviously going to be achieved by moving to a 0.09 process. Current processors are made on the 0.13 fab and as such scaling beyond the current high end is going to cause even greater heat problems. Having said that the coolingf system does not seem to be stressed in the current machines.
I believe we will see a new lineup in January.
SP 1.8Ghz, DP 2.00Ghz, and (In short supply) DP2.4
Modest but I believe realistic.
My guess is that there will be a speed bump, but not a big one, the 3ghz level is obviously going to be achieved by moving to a 0.09 process. Current processors are made on the 0.13 fab and as such scaling beyond the current high end is going to cause even greater heat problems. Having said that the coolingf system does not seem to be stressed in the current machines.
I believe we will see a new lineup in January.
SP 1.8Ghz, DP 2.00Ghz, and (In short supply) DP2.4
Modest but I believe realistic.
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Originally posted by Addison
I believe we will see a new lineup in January....
Modest but I believe realistic.
Modest? Not unless you mean January of '05. (IMO)
Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself
Modest? Not unless you mean January of '05. (IMO)
How would it be January of '05 when Steve says they'll be at 3ghz by middle of 2004? Heck, we'll probably have dual Powerbook G5s by January of 05.
* single 2.0 GHz
* dual 2.2 GHz
* dual 2.5 GHz
It makes the low-end purchasers happy because they get the clock speed that was high-end a few months before; the mid-range buyers are happy because they don't have to go for broke (or just go broke) to get dual processors, and the high-end of course has a perceptibly higher clock speed.
Price cuts? I don't expect any myself, but this is also October 2003 and not early 2004. The cuts would depend on whether IBM refines its technologies and yields enough to lower prices, as well as whether or not higher-speed DDR and Serial ATA become more common. Even then I wouldn't expect more than a $100 US drop.
What if Steve's statement of 3 GHz was a pessimistic forecast? If moving to a 90 nanometer G5 production in the fourth quarter is a good indicator of faster chips, I'm hoping that we may see the 3 GHz model announced at MWSF in January. Talk about shock value.
New line up:
2.0
2.5
Dual 3 GHz
Originally posted by macmike
How would it be January of '05 when Steve says they'll be at 3ghz by middle of 2004? Heck, we'll probably have dual Powerbook G5s by January of 05.
I say your crazy.
Originally posted by Addison
I don't think IBM can push the 130nanometer chips far beyond their current speed. I am not an expert but this seem to be a common theme, hence my modest predictions. When they move to 90 nanometer I guess there will be a step jump.
Why? Just asking, but Intel is pushing 3.2GHz and looking for more @ 0.13µm. The IBM has between 9 and 20(?) pipeline stages depending on which execution unit your looking at, I think this should allow quite an increase over 2.0GHz before the jump to 0.09µm. After all, those 9 fans aren't really being stressed at the moment, could be that this case, with it's 9 fans was designed to handle a lot more heat than is currently(pun) being generated. Just a thought, I could be wrong, have been in the past, and surely will be in the future.
Originally posted by Zapchud
With all the R&D that's gone into the current G5 box, I think we'll be stuck with that for a long time. The cooling system might change slightly (or radically, but that's just eventually) over the revisions, but mostly, it'll stay the same.
Exactly, and with 9 fans and 4 separate cooling zones, my bet is that the current case can indeed handle a lot more heat than the current versions generate. That's just me though and my knowledge of computers is woefully limited.
Originally posted by Zapchud
With all the R&D that's gone into the current G5 box, I think we'll be stuck with that for a long time. The cooling system might change slightly (or radically, but that's just eventually) over the revisions, but mostly, it'll stay the same.
if apple is smart, and I think that they have proven they are, they would design things from a modular perspective. This would make changing the design or size of the box relatively easy. The fact that it is aluminum points to me that they will probably change it at will. Aluminum is fairly easy to work with.
I doubt we'll see any case revisions, except perhaps cosmetic changes, for a few years. Look at Apple's recent track record. The Titanium PowerBooks lasted almost three years, the CRT iMac got just one architectural overhaul in four years and El Capitan...well, El Cap is actually STILL with us after almost five. Steve is all about iconic designs, not transitory ones.
IBM page had a 970 at 2.5 gig.
I think Rev B will be that in duals at high end.
2.2 ish dual mid.
Single 2 gig bottom end.
Rev B. 2.5 top end with Panther.
That's what I want...
San Fran' Jan' announcement surely with shipping soon after.
It's in Apple and IBM's interest to pile the pressure on Intel. They've both got their reasons.
Apple's getting growth with laptops. Wonder if it will achieve growth with desktops? Only if the G5 transitions to the rest of the desktop line swiftly...
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