The "best" Panther installation

rustedborg · October 9, 2003 3:44PM

I'm not sure if this should go here or in another forum, but here goes.

I plan to upgrade from OS9.2.2 to Panther early next month. I've already removed all my personal files from the internal drive to an external hard drive and also backed up files on CDs. I want to install Panther on my internal HD with OS9.2.2. The internal drive currently has 8+Gigs of free space.

My question is, should I just put the Panther install CDs in my CD drive and "let 'er rip?" or should I completely reformat my internal drive and install Panther on a clean slate?

If I should reformat the drive before installing Panther, can someone point me to a link explaining how to do that? I've reformatted external HDs many times, but I've never reformatted my internal drive that has my OS on it.

I'm just asking because I want my installation of Panther to go as smooth as possible.

eugene · October 9, 2003 3:51PM

I'm going to back-up my start-up disk, check it for any problems, zero it, and then clean install. It's like when you bust out the new batteries for your smoke detectors when you switch to/from Daylight Savings Time.

vandewaals · October 9, 2003 3:54PM

Since you don't have a version of OS X on there already, you can do this:

Take the OS 9 System Folder and back it up

Do a clean install of Panther...and make sure to install the OS 9 drivers for the hard drive so you can boot to OS 9 in a pinch if you need

Once you're done and rebooted, just take the OS 9 System Folder you saved and drop it on the root level of the hard drive

If you already had some version of OS X on there, you could do an Archive and Install, which installs a fresh OS X System folder and moves the old one to a folder labeled "Previous Systems"

ti fighter · October 9, 2003 5:04PM

I alwase just boot off the OSX cd and use the disk utility to format (check off OS 9 drivers if you need them)

ghost_user_name · October 9, 2003 5:14PM

How much space will pnther take up? Around 2GB?

placebo · October 9, 2003 6:10PM

I'd go with a clean install. That will really help in the long run, and you get the new HFS+ file system installed.

aquatic · October 9, 2003 7:37PM

I never installed OS 9 disk drivers on my iBook with Jaguar and 9 worked fine.

nano · October 9, 2003 7:51PM

Quote:

Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes

How much space will pnther take up? Around 2GB?

the website says 3 gb

cosmo · October 9, 2003 8:34PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VanDeWaals

If you already had some version of OS X on there, you could do an Archive and Install, which installs a fresh OS X System folder and moves the old one to a folder labeled "Previous Systems"

Does the Archive install keep your old prefs?

or do u move them over manually?

what is the best way to install 10.3 over 10.2?

eugene · October 9, 2003 8:38PM

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Originally posted by Cosmo

Does the Archive install keep your old prefs?

or do u move them over manually?

what is the best way to install 10.3 over 10.2?

It moves all the third party stuff installed in your "System" folder to someplace safe and installs a fresh one. You can choose to preserve your existing user accounts, so all the personal prefs would remain.

johnhenry · October 9, 2003 9:29PM

Yeah, I really need some help here.

I'm a newbie (bought my MDD 1ghz last year) and It came with Jagwire...

I want to do a clean install (I will probably by a bigger HD and install at the same time, moving my current HD to a secondary drive, so....

When I install panther how do I move preferences, keychain, pics, itunes library to the new system? Or does it all have to be done manually

algol · October 9, 2003 9:30PM

Yea before installing 10.3 on a computer running 10.2.8 what are all the things I should do? I really don't want to reformat and install as I have way to much stuff to put back on. If I just do the regular upgrade feature are there anythings I should do first besides check the HD?

/\ldie · October 10, 2003 6:35AM

I brought my Panther installation back to 1.6 gig by deselecting all the languagepacks and printerdrivers and fonts which I will never use. It saves space, loadtimes, etc.

Also, startuptime on panter is greatly improved bytheway. My 700 mhz FP imac boots in 36 seconds from chime to loginwindow. impressive.

digitaldave · October 10, 2003 7:42AM

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Originally posted by Algol

Yea before installing 10.3 on a computer running 10.2.8 what are all the things I should do? I really don't want to reformat and install as I have way to much stuff to put back on. If I just do the regular upgrade feature are there anythings I should do first besides check the HD?

I'm in a similar situation. I've only had my Mac for two weeks, so I doubt it's had time to pick up any serious issues that would be cleared up by a clean install. Also, I don't want to have to transfer 16GB of music and 4GB of digital photos to my PC and back again if I can avoid it. So would a regular update install be OK for me?

Thanks,

Dave.

rustedborg · October 10, 2003 8:16AM

Quote:

Originally posted by /\\ldie

I brought my Panther installation back to 1.6 gig by deselecting all the languagepacks and printerdrivers and fonts which I will never use. It saves space, loadtimes, etc.

Also, startuptime on panter is greatly improved bytheway. My 700 mhz FP imac boots in 36 seconds from chime to loginwindow. impressive.

I've been wondering if I might be better off (in terms of startup time) just loading the English languagepack. Now I know. Thanks.

Do printer drivers really slow down startup in OSX? I thought OS9 (and OSX) only used them if you selected that particular driver via chooser. Forgive me for sounding stupid. I've been using OS9 at home and at work for a while and only recently started using Jaguar at work.

sunrein · October 11, 2003 11:35PM

When I get Panther I'm going to back everything up to my 20GB iPod and then do a fresh install. It certainly can't hurt.

reactor · October 12, 2003 7:29AM

Can someone please explain what the differences are between the 'journaled' and regular 'HFS+' installing options? (Other than journaling)

Thanks

mac man 020581 · October 12, 2003 7:43AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sunrein

When I get Panther I'm going to back everything up to my 20GB iPod and then do a fresh install. It certainly can't hurt.

I think I might do the same, when I upgraded from 10.1 to 10.2 I did an achieve install but now I think it is time for a clean start and get rid of OS 9.

nihat_y · October 13, 2003 10:59PM

Im just going to back-up and wipe my entire machine. it has become slightly buggered up for some reason beyond me, but Im waiting for panther to come out, before I go through all that pain in the butt.

Thats when I will wipe the entire machine, and redo,

I personnaly would back-up, totaly erase, re-partition, **-with the Disk utility from the Panther Install CD-** before installing panther. Apple will have updated the Disk drivers, and the HFS file system etc, so it would be a very GOOD idea.

Just my advice from personal experience, over these years Ive learnt some very hard lessons!!!

Nick.

ghost_user_name · October 13, 2003 11:18PM

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Originally posted by reactor

Can someone please explain what the differences are between the 'journaled' and regular 'HFS+' installing options? (Other than journaling)

That's the *only* difference.

algol · October 13, 2003 11:44PM

Okay, if your machine is not acting buggy and you are having no problems with it would it be okay to just do the upgrade function. And, if so, are there any extra things I should do to make it work better?

I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY COPY!!!

The "best" Panther installation

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