iTunes/Win is not so great after all...

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  • Reply 21 of 72
    I installed it on a 1ghz celeron Dell el chepo machine with 2K and it resizes worse than a 233hmz imac running OSX 10.1
  • Reply 22 of 72
    How did this turn into a discussion about frame-rates? All I know is that our friend started bitching about the good parts of iTunes. It's a bit like saying, you know, Lord of the Rings movie, it has all the good elements of the books. Sheesh, who woulda thought.



    The transfer of the good stuff from the Mac to Windows is therefore a GOOD thing.



    As for installing it on my work peecee, I came close to weeping with joy and relief. It is a perfect port of a pretty damn good product. Nuff said on that.



    However, let's talk about what's still missing in iTunes that we would have really liked. . . .



    - Links to reviews and descriptions of music.

    - Lyrics to songs available.

    - Improved consistency on song / album available. Anyone tired of 'partial' albums?

    - Recommendations based on listening / purchasing behaviour.



    Any thoughts?
  • Reply 23 of 72
    smirclesmircle Posts: 1,035member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by O and A



    Funny how you only defended that point and none of ur other original points. Just goes to show how wrong you are.




    OK bloke, go ahead and show me how to play WMA with iTunes. Why should i "defend" things that noone up to now has proven wrong?



    And obviously you are a kid that has never suffered through the Word 6 days, else you would know what I mean by ass-sucking ports that disregard the platform native UI.
  • Reply 24 of 72
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Ti Fighter

    I installed it on a 1ghz celeron Dell el chepo machine with 2K and it resizes worse than a 233hmz imac running OSX 10.1



    I'm sure that has NOTHING to do with the fact that you're using celery as a processor....I mean celeron.



    The app runs great on my Athlon XP 2600.
  • Reply 25 of 72
    smirclesmircle Posts: 1,035member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by kumrabai



    However, let's talk about what's still missing in iTunes that we would have really liked. . . .




    An option that makes the collapsed window float above all other windows.
  • Reply 26 of 72
    Just installed it on my PC (Sony Vaio laptop). iTunes for Windows simply rocks! Apple have delivered IMO. The only small 'issue' I can see on the OS integration side is that the Windows maximise button doesnt maximise the Window but rather produce the iTunes mini-remote. I can see this raising a few eyebrows on the Windows side and being a bit confusing at first. But it is a minor point.
  • Reply 27 of 72
    For everyone who is interested...

    Here is a screenshot of the win version:

    http://www.julian-vieth.de/itunes.jpg
  • Reply 28 of 72
    bka77bka77 Posts: 331member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle

    An option that makes the collapsed window float above all other windows.



    this is a must!
  • Reply 29 of 72
    o and ao and a Posts: 579member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle

    OK bloke, go ahead and show me how to play WMA with iTunes. Why should i "defend" things that noone up to now has proven wrong?



    And obviously you are a kid that has never suffered through the Word 6 days, else you would know what I mean by ass-sucking ports that disregard the platform native UI.




    You've already been proven wrong about the crappy port part of ur argument by various members of this forum in this thread.



    WMA support is not there because wma simply SUCK. Any audiophile will tell you how much fidelity WMA lacks. I'm not a kid and i didn't suffer through word 6 UI problems simply becuase i USED CLARIS WORKS
  • Reply 30 of 72
    dviantdviant Posts: 483member
    Maybe I missed it, but no one has mentioned WHY iTunes is 19mb for Win. Could it be perhaps because it INCLUDES Quicktime 6.4? Hrrmmm yesss? Methinks one needs to read the "Windows Requirements" on the download page before criticizing on installer size. Pretty damn good for QT 6.4 + iTunes 4.1 if you ask me.



    As for the UI, the originator of this thread should really open up WMP in XP and show me what frickin' UI guidelines THAT adheres to? Riiiiight. I think adding OS X widgets in there was a nice touch to say "hey look its an Mac app on Windows".



    Also when you take into account that iTunes for Win has to interface with the look of the iTMS, WinXP scrollbars and arrows would look very out of place and slapped on. Why ugly up a good thing? Not to mention it might be considered subtle advertising for potential switchers



    Is no WMA support any big surprise? Apple is pushing its "open" media standards and they are not on the Windows platform to generously give them a cool music app, they are there to sell iTMS. Plain and simple. Supporting WMA is counter-productive to that agenda with all the competing music download services cropping up. Duh.



    Better luck next time Smircle-troll....
  • Reply 31 of 72
    smirclesmircle Posts: 1,035member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by O and A

    You've already been proven wrong about the crappy port part of ur argument by various members of this forum in this thread.



    You mean by platform bigots who have never had any contact with the Windows UI guidelines? Yeah, right.

    Quote:



    WMA support is not there because wma simply SUCK. Any audiophile will tell you how much fidelity WMA lacks.




    I have yet so meet an audiophile who would listen to mp3 or AAC for that matter...

    Those I have met are unhappy with CDs and prefer DVD-A.

    Quote:



    I'm not a kid and i didn't suffer through word 6 UI problems simply becuase i USED CLARIS WORKS




    Dude, this is exactly what I am saying. You know shit about how bad the Word 6 port was because you did not have to use it. A lot of Windows die-hards will not touch iTunes with a six-foot pole, because it is a Mac-app running on windows, not a windows port.



    It's always amusing to see how the same people who cry foul murder if an application on their OS has a windowsian look-and-feel are completely incapable to transfer this to how users on other platforms might feel.
  • Reply 32 of 72
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by musicaltone

    Just installed it on my PC (Sony Vaio laptop). iTunes for Windows simply rocks! Apple have delivered IMO. The only small 'issue' I can see on the OS integration side is that the Windows maximise button doesnt maximise the Window but rather produce the iTunes mini-remote. I can see this raising a few eyebrows on the Windows side and being a bit confusing at first. But it is a minor point.



    Apple breaks its own GUI guidelines on the Mac OS X side as well, so at least they don't discriminate...
  • Reply 33 of 72
    Smircle, if Windows has UI guidelines, would you please point them out to us? Windows applications are so inconsistent that it's hard to tell what's right and wrong. I swear every media app I've ever used (not to mention every system utility, firewall and internet "protection" app) has a different type of UI. It's crazy. At least iTunes is well thought out.
  • Reply 34 of 72
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle

    You mean by platform bigots who have never had any contact with the Windows UI guidelines? Yeah, right.



    That's right ... you're the only person here who uses both Apple and Windows machines.



    Answer the previous post, by dviant, regarding WMP.



    Perhaps WMP doesn't automatically fail your 'UI guidelines' because it was programmed by Microsoft and as such becomes a defacto 'guideline'? I'm sure that's the line you'll take.
  • Reply 35 of 72
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle



    It's always amusing to see how the same people who cry foul murder if an application on their OS has a windowsian look-and-feel are completely incapable to transfer this to how users on other platforms might feel.




    You obviously don't get it. iTunes isn't meant to fit seamlessly into the windows environment. It's basicly a way to show off Apple technology and design. Besides, you'' find that P.C. users don;t give a crap what the app looks like. That's why they're still using the P.C. platform.



    Too bad they couldn't make it do a "Genie Effect" when minimized to the tas bar ... that would rock.
  • Reply 36 of 72
    smirclesmircle Posts: 1,035member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by audiopollution





    Answer the previous post, by dviant, regarding WMP.



    Perhaps WMP doesn't automatically fail your 'UI guidelines' because it was programmed by Microsoft and as such becomes a defacto 'guideline'? I'm sure that's the line you'll take.




    I always thought Apple prided itself of a better understandig of the importance of UI guidelines than MS?

    Just choose the "classic" skin in WMP and tell me what you see. Oh, you never knew there was such a thing as configurable skins in WMP? Too bad, but just do me a favor and show me where I can select a "classic" skin in iTunes...
  • Reply 37 of 72
    smirclesmircle Posts: 1,035member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by the cool gut

    Besides, you'' find that P.C. users don;t give a crap what the app looks like. That's why they're still using the P.C. platform.



    This is so false, but thanks again for underscoring my point re: ignorant platform bigots .
  • Reply 38 of 72
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle

    This is so false, but thanks again for underscoring my point re: ignorant platform bigots .



    Actually, I just threw that line in to piss you off. Glad it worked.
  • Reply 39 of 72
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Smircle

    I always thought Apple prided itself of a better understandig of the importance of UI guidelines than MS?

    Just choose the "classic" skin in WMP and tell me what you see. Oh, you never knew there was such a thing as configurable skins in WMP? Too bad, but just do me a favor and show me where I can select a "classic" skin in iTunes...




    You're fairly condescending and annoying, huh?



    If Microsoft were so concerned about UI look-and-feel, they would have made the classic skin the default.



    You'd better stop using Quicktime on Windows, as the UI Guidelines are being ignored. Uninstall Winamp, too, while you're at it. Actually, I'm sure you'll be able to clear yourself a chunk of hard drive space by removing all of your software that doesn't follow the guidelines.



    The brushed metal interface is a function of 'branding'. Live with it.
  • Reply 40 of 72
    o and ao and a Posts: 579member
    The only platform bigot here is you SMIRCLE. You've clearly demonstrated that with your uninformed comments.



    REAL player - DOESN'T USE WINDOWS STANDARD UI

    MUSIC MATCH - DOESN'T USE WINDOWS STANDARD UI

    WINAMP - DOESN'T USE WINDOWS STANDARD UI



    U can name THOUSANDS of apps that ignore the windows UI.



    As for your audiophile comment I've met audiophiles who are satisfied with high bit rate AAC files and High bit rate MP3 files. If you don't believe me u can head on over to AVS forums and you can find them there. You'll also find those people complaining about WMA files fidelity problems.
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