How about a 15-inch widescreen iBook with a 933 MHz G4 processor? I'm so sick & tired and frankly disappointed with the crappy aluminum PowerBooks which turn into ovens and have bad displays, lousy battery life, and broken latches.
What makes you think an iBook with the same display of a PowerBook and power requirements of a PowerBook would not have the same problems as... uh... a PowerBook?
What makes you think an iBook with the same display of a PowerBook and power requirements of a PowerBook would not have the same problems as... uh... a PowerBook?
Ok, here's a strange iBook related dream for you...
A local retailer bought several "build-your-own" iBook and iMac kits because they were vastly cheaper. Upon receiving them, he realized that he didn't know jack about computers and decided to throw them out. Then I came along and got them all out of the dumpster. I was just deciding which one I was going to try and build first and how many I was going to keep when the alarm went off. It was a very downhill day after that...
And all of this for under 3000 dollars Canadian which is 2,257.73 American. Wow, isn't that a lot to ask for? Maybe it is but I still want it! It is do-able if IBM and Apple optimize their production methods.
You base that last statement on what information? Just because you want it doesn't mean that it is technically or economically possible. Personally I don't think you know wheteher this is doable or not, but you want it to be.
so if my choices are a 1gz 12pb or 14/13 1gz g3 updated ibook(as the rumors suggest), which would handle VPC6.1 better, which would be faster with mp3 etc?? what is the incendtive to buy the PB???
Actually, it might not be a bad strategy to have some sort of an iBook/eMac upgrade at this time.
Coupled with the just rolled out iTunes for Windows and iPod accessories, this might go to convince switchers who might be on the fence to come on over.
I'm not sure if it would be the big revision (13" widescreen) that I'm hoping for, but maybe it's just a bump to 1 ghz and a small price drop in the iBook.
Actually, it might not be a bad strategy to have some sort of an iBook/eMac upgrade at this time.
Coupled with the just rolled out iTunes for Windows and iPod accessories, this might go to convince switchers who might be on the fence to come on over.
I'm not sure if it would be the big revision (13" widescreen) that I'm hoping for, but maybe it's just a bump to 1 ghz and a small price drop in the iBook.
Apple is working on it. They wanted the PowerBook and eMac to be ready for back-to-school sales in August, but it didn't happen. You know the story. Blame Motorola. I suspect that Motorola has now delivered a sufficient quantity of new G4s for Apple to put out the eMac very soon. Apple also didn't want to launch the new iBook at the same time as the PowerBook because they didn't want to potentially canibalize PB sales.
Now, because of the delays with G4 acquisitions, you also have to factor in Panther. Apple could probably have announced new iBooks and eMacs by now (both revisions are past due if you look at the previous schedules), but with Panther just around the corner it would be stupid to release another system using Jaguar. All those potential iBook and eMac consumers don't want to mess with sending in forms to get the discounted Panther upgrade and Apple doesn't want to have to mess with handling all those upgrade fulfillments.
It's easier to just wait until Panther is released and then all the new iBooks and eMacs can come with Panther pre-installed.
iBooks aren't past schedule for update yet. They were updated last november to 800MHz then again in April/May to 900MHz. We should see something within a month and that would keep with the roughly 6 month update schedule.
iBooks aren't past schedule for update yet. They were updated last november to 800MHz then again in April/May to 900MHz. We should see something within a month and that would keep with the roughly 6 month update schedule.
Macrumors.com has a pretty accurate breakdown of product updates from Apple. See the following link:
According to the numbers, the average number of days between iBook updates is 144. It has now been 178 days since the last iBook update. Sounds overdue to me.
Yes, I understand that. The 700MHz iBook I have was released in May '02 so I believe that Apple has been consistently *about* 6 months between iBook revs. I think the intro of the 14" machine skewed the average.
I don't know if I have said this before here, but I think if the next iBook has a G4, it's a pretty safe bet the next PB will be a G5.
Slim chance we'll see a G4 in the next iBook. IBM's new G3 (PowerPC 750GX ... 1.1GHz, 1MB of L2 cache running at chip speed) is suspected to land inside the next iBook. It may or may not be the last "G3" computer that Apple releases.
In any case, Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year ... so I doubt it will happen until the PowerBook and iMac move to G5.
Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year
Apple surprised a few people this year when they introduced both a 12-inch AND 17-inch PowerBook, adding to the 15-inch, and not updating the 15-inch enclosure until 9 months later. That surprised a lot of people.
Slim chance we'll see a G4 in the next iBook. IBM's new G3 (PowerPC 750GX ... 1.1GHz, 1MB of L2 cache running at chip speed) is suspected to land inside the next iBook. It may or may not be the last "G3" computer that Apple releases.
In any case, Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year ... so I doubt it will happen until the PowerBook and iMac move to G5.
I have to agree that this is the most likely chip we'll see with the upcoming iBook updates.
The chip has sampled, is probably entering mass production shortly, and would offer a significant speed increase. That and the fact that it probably wouldn't step on the Powerbooks' toes too much (G3 vs. G4).
Then again, Apple has previously had some pretty major overlapping of the iBooks with the Powerbooks.
so if ibook goes 1gz and the PB 12 is 1gz how do they differentiate the two, will the g3 be that much faster than the g4??? can you say for sure which would run VPC better?? this is my buying decision. i'm not sure i need the superdrive. how do you think apple will market the differences, if they are very close in speed and capability then price and looks, marketing would be tough. and might take from PB12 purchases, now unless they go 13 widescreen across the board in the ibook then the PB would be the smallest and perhaps the lightest which business people like.
I hope the new iBooks (that will be released Nov. 20) will have a DVI port, but i have a feeling they willl intentionally leave that out
You can be sure of one of the two...and I'm not talking about the Nov. date.
I'm not sure a DVI port will ever make it to Apple's iBook line. I know, I know, it's a consumer product, but that hasn't stopped competing PC laptops.
so if ibook goes 1gz and the PB 12 is 1gz how do they differentiate the two, will the g3 be that much faster than the g4??? can you say for sure which would run VPC better?? this is my buying decision. i'm not sure i need the superdrive. how do you think apple will market the differences, if they are very close in speed and capability then price and looks, marketing would be tough. and might take from PB12 purchases, now unless they go 13 widescreen across the board in the ibook then the PB would be the smallest and perhaps the lightest which business people like.
The 1GHz G4 PB will be faster than the 1GH G3 iBook in altivec apps and general OS X work, but in non-altivec apps the larger, faster G3 cache will make the G3 faster. Virtual PC loves larger, faster cache, so I'd speculate that the new G3 chip will run VPC better than a G4 ... but I can't say for sure until I can run VPC on an iBook for comparison.
In any case, the PB will still be the faster product, but if you spend all your time in VPC you might want an iBook. That said, if you're using VPC all the time, why not just buy a cheap PC laptop?
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Originally posted by DHagan4755
How about a 15-inch widescreen iBook with a 933 MHz G4 processor? I'm so sick & tired and frankly disappointed with the crappy aluminum PowerBooks which turn into ovens and have bad displays, lousy battery life, and broken latches.
What makes you think an iBook with the same display of a PowerBook and power requirements of a PowerBook would not have the same problems as... uh... a PowerBook?
Originally posted by Brad
What makes you think an iBook with the same display of a PowerBook and power requirements of a PowerBook would not have the same problems as... uh... a PowerBook?
I don't know. I'm just flustered. That's all.
Originally posted by macaddict74
I just had the strangest dream...
Ok, here's a strange iBook related dream for you...
A local retailer bought several "build-your-own" iBook and iMac kits because they were vastly cheaper. Upon receiving them, he realized that he didn't know jack about computers and decided to throw them out. Then I came along and got them all out of the dumpster. I was just deciding which one I was going to try and build first and how many I was going to keep when the alarm went off. It was a very downhill day after that...
Originally posted by macaddict74
And all of this for under 3000 dollars Canadian which is 2,257.73 American. Wow, isn't that a lot to ask for? Maybe it is but I still want it! It is do-able if IBM and Apple optimize their production methods.
You base that last statement on what information? Just because you want it doesn't mean that it is technically or economically possible. Personally I don't think you know wheteher this is doable or not, but you want it to be.
Coupled with the just rolled out iTunes for Windows and iPod accessories, this might go to convince switchers who might be on the fence to come on over.
I'm not sure if it would be the big revision (13" widescreen) that I'm hoping for, but maybe it's just a bump to 1 ghz and a small price drop in the iBook.
Originally posted by satchmo
Actually, it might not be a bad strategy to have some sort of an iBook/eMac upgrade at this time.
Coupled with the just rolled out iTunes for Windows and iPod accessories, this might go to convince switchers who might be on the fence to come on over.
I'm not sure if it would be the big revision (13" widescreen) that I'm hoping for, but maybe it's just a bump to 1 ghz and a small price drop in the iBook.
Apple is working on it. They wanted the PowerBook and eMac to be ready for back-to-school sales in August, but it didn't happen. You know the story. Blame Motorola. I suspect that Motorola has now delivered a sufficient quantity of new G4s for Apple to put out the eMac very soon. Apple also didn't want to launch the new iBook at the same time as the PowerBook because they didn't want to potentially canibalize PB sales.
Now, because of the delays with G4 acquisitions, you also have to factor in Panther. Apple could probably have announced new iBooks and eMacs by now (both revisions are past due if you look at the previous schedules), but with Panther just around the corner it would be stupid to release another system using Jaguar. All those potential iBook and eMac consumers don't want to mess with sending in forms to get the discounted Panther upgrade and Apple doesn't want to have to mess with handling all those upgrade fulfillments.
It's easier to just wait until Panther is released and then all the new iBooks and eMacs can come with Panther pre-installed.
Originally posted by Bancho
iBooks aren't past schedule for update yet. They were updated last november to 800MHz then again in April/May to 900MHz. We should see something within a month and that would keep with the roughly 6 month update schedule.
Macrumors.com has a pretty accurate breakdown of product updates from Apple. See the following link:
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
According to the numbers, the average number of days between iBook updates is 144. It has now been 178 days since the last iBook update. Sounds overdue to me.
I can't even use iTunes because I'm running Windows 98
Originally posted by DHagan4755
I don't know if I have said this before here, but I think if the next iBook has a G4, it's a pretty safe bet the next PB will be a G5.
Slim chance we'll see a G4 in the next iBook. IBM's new G3 (PowerPC 750GX ... 1.1GHz, 1MB of L2 cache running at chip speed) is suspected to land inside the next iBook. It may or may not be the last "G3" computer that Apple releases.
In any case, Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year ... so I doubt it will happen until the PowerBook and iMac move to G5.
Originally posted by rustedborg
Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year
Apple surprised a few people this year when they introduced both a 12-inch AND 17-inch PowerBook, adding to the 15-inch, and not updating the 15-inch enclosure until 9 months later. That surprised a lot of people.
Originally posted by rustedborg
Slim chance we'll see a G4 in the next iBook. IBM's new G3 (PowerPC 750GX ... 1.1GHz, 1MB of L2 cache running at chip speed) is suspected to land inside the next iBook. It may or may not be the last "G3" computer that Apple releases.
In any case, Apple would surprise quite a few people if they put a G4 in the iBook this year ... so I doubt it will happen until the PowerBook and iMac move to G5.
I have to agree that this is the most likely chip we'll see with the upcoming iBook updates.
The chip has sampled, is probably entering mass production shortly, and would offer a significant speed increase. That and the fact that it probably wouldn't step on the Powerbooks' toes too much (G3 vs. G4).
Then again, Apple has previously had some pretty major overlapping of the iBooks with the Powerbooks.
Originally posted by sillycybin
I hope the new iBooks (that will be released Nov. 20) will have a DVI port, but i have a feeling they willl intentionally leave that out
You can be sure of one of the two...and I'm not talking about the Nov. date.
I'm not sure a DVI port will ever make it to Apple's iBook line. I know, I know, it's a consumer product, but that hasn't stopped competing PC laptops.
Originally posted by NOFEER
so if ibook goes 1gz and the PB 12 is 1gz how do they differentiate the two, will the g3 be that much faster than the g4??? can you say for sure which would run VPC better?? this is my buying decision. i'm not sure i need the superdrive. how do you think apple will market the differences, if they are very close in speed and capability then price and looks, marketing would be tough. and might take from PB12 purchases, now unless they go 13 widescreen across the board in the ibook then the PB would be the smallest and perhaps the lightest which business people like.
The 1GHz G4 PB will be faster than the 1GH G3 iBook in altivec apps and general OS X work, but in non-altivec apps the larger, faster G3 cache will make the G3 faster. Virtual PC loves larger, faster cache, so I'd speculate that the new G3 chip will run VPC better than a G4 ... but I can't say for sure until I can run VPC on an iBook for comparison.
In any case, the PB will still be the faster product, but if you spend all your time in VPC you might want an iBook. That said, if you're using VPC all the time, why not just buy a cheap PC laptop?