Is it just me or does this completely muddle the product line or what? Explain to me why I would by the 12" PowerBook now. This is crazy, but good.
After I saw the updates, I started to wonder the exact opposite; why would anybody choose an iBook G4 over a 12" PB? I like the 12" form factor, and now Apple leaves me with only two choices, the 12" PB, or the new, low-end iBook.
With the Powerbook, for only an extra $500 USD, you get:
An extra 200MHz
256 MB soldered to the board (iBook: 128 on board/128 expansion)
1.256GB memory ceiling (iBook: STILL 640)
40, 60, 80 gig drive (iBook: 30, 40, 60)
Built-in Bluetooth
DVI
Double the L2 cache
GeForce FX Go5200 vs. Radeon 9200 and
Hackless Monitor Spanning
Not to mention the 12" PB is smaller and lighter, and it's on Rev B.
Apple should have waited for IBM's G3+Altivec and given us that 13" Widescreen iBook we want so much.
If things keep going the way they are, my next laptop (this one's still got a few good years left in it) will definitely be a PowerBook.
Now I wonder if all those rumours about a new "form factor" for the iBook are true or not. Maybe some wires got crossed along the rumor line and new "form factor" is actually a reference to a new chip for the iBooks.
Indeed there were rumors (rumours) about a new form factor but those I read indicated not until late next year. Some correctly indicated an upgrading of the insides and a possible G4 chip. Apple will definately have a great 4th Quarter!
I must say that this highly entertaining, watching everyone wake up, see this news, go "Huh?" and then post their thoughts. Good fun to read over breakfast
why the fvck would apple have not changed their fp for this? I go to the front page, and I see a big advert for a free program, FOR WINDOWS! I would think that the iBook line is more important than iTunes+iTMS. And yet iBook G4 gets a small mention in the bottom corner.
I really like the PBG5 possibilities now though. I was trying to be pessimistic, and hope in a year. Now it looks far too likely for January.
Love the new specs. I've been waiting to replace my 600mhz iBook since the new Powerbooks came out. If Apple hadn't updated the iBook I probably would have bought the 12" PB after Panther shipped. Very pleased that I waited (it was hard)
Kickhaha I would feel real sorry for you if you had ordered a 12" P'book but since you got the 15 I dont think you should feel too bad, it is so much better then these puppies. You wont regret it... Having said that I've just ordered a 12" G4 ibook for my girl (I will be so popular tonight...)
Apple Unveils New Generation G4 iBooks Starting at Just $1,099
CUPERTINO, California?October 22, 2003?Apple® today unveiled its new iBooks featuring PowerPC G4 processors....Perfect for today?s digital lifestyle, every new iBook also includes iLife?, Apple?s integrated suite of award-winning digital lifestyle applications that features the latest versions of iPhoto?, iMovie® and iDVD? and iTunes®....
How can these include iDVD if they do not have a Superdrive?
The 12" Al Books are way better -- better g4, more memory, Superdrive, etc.
But g5 Powerbooks are coming -- and I told you so!
Just bought a powerbook g4 12" with a combo drive and got it last friday. Can I return it? Should I return it if I can and get the ibook? I'm kinda bummed about this. I wish I waited.
Exactly, I'm comparing the specs of the 12" iBook and 12" Powerbook and wondering why exactly I paid $500 extra. The shiny aluminum? The better video out option? The fact that the AluBook is lighter? The fact that it's more compact?
Wait. These are adding up... \
Well whatever...
Screed
12" PB is still 200 MZ faster than 12" iBook, as well. But still-- for the price? I have absolutely no use for an iBook, but I want one anyway. Bad.
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Originally posted by Guartho
The PowerBook also has twice the L2 cache...
whoop-de-****ing-do
The 12" PowerBook is DEAD. Dead like a Cube.
Originally posted by chilleymac
Is it just me or does this completely muddle the product line or what? Explain to me why I would by the 12" PowerBook now. This is crazy, but good.
After I saw the updates, I started to wonder the exact opposite; why would anybody choose an iBook G4 over a 12" PB? I like the 12" form factor, and now Apple leaves me with only two choices, the 12" PB, or the new, low-end iBook.
With the Powerbook, for only an extra $500 USD, you get:
- An extra 200MHz
- 256 MB soldered to the board (iBook: 128 on board/128 expansion)
- 1.256GB memory ceiling (iBook: STILL 640)
- 40, 60, 80 gig drive (iBook: 30, 40, 60)
- Built-in Bluetooth
- DVI
- Double the L2 cache
- GeForce FX Go5200 vs. Radeon 9200 and
- Hackless Monitor Spanning
Not to mention the 12" PB is smaller and lighter, and it's on Rev B.Apple should have waited for IBM's G3+Altivec and given us that 13" Widescreen iBook we want so much.
If things keep going the way they are, my next laptop (this one's still got a few good years left in it) will definitely be a PowerBook.
Originally posted by kraig911
yup g5 powerbooks... here in january for sure
Will that be before or after they solved the problems with the current line-up? IOW: dream on.
Originally posted by Phroggy
GeForce FX Go5200 vs. Radeon 9200 and
Whatever. Gimme an ATI card any day. The NVidia 5XXX series are crap. But seriously, this is enough to make me consider ditching my beloved Pismo...
Originally posted by Kickaha
My PowerBook 15" SHIPPED THIS MORNING!
welcome to the wonderful world of Apple
Originally posted by Kickaha
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
My PowerBook 15" SHIPPED THIS MORNING!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I feel your pain, mine did too. Oh well, life goes on.
I'd add more cliches, but it's much too early.
I really like the PBG5 possibilities now though. I was trying to be pessimistic, and hope in a year. Now it looks far too likely for January.
iBook 12.1"/800MHz/Combo drive
384MB DDR266 SDRAM
AirPort Extreme Card
60GB Ultra ATA drive
Love the new specs. I've been waiting to replace my 600mhz iBook since the new Powerbooks came out. If Apple hadn't updated the iBook I probably would have bought the 12" PB after Panther shipped. Very pleased that I waited (it was hard)
Cheers
Too bad...the new one is great!
Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
Apple Unveils New Generation G4 iBooks Starting at Just $1,099
CUPERTINO, California?October 22, 2003?Apple® today unveiled its new iBooks featuring PowerPC G4 processors....Perfect for today?s digital lifestyle, every new iBook also includes iLife?, Apple?s integrated suite of award-winning digital lifestyle applications that features the latest versions of iPhoto?, iMovie® and iDVD? and iTunes®....
How can these include iDVD if they do not have a Superdrive?
The 12" Al Books are way better -- better g4, more memory, Superdrive, etc.
But g5 Powerbooks are coming -- and I told you so!
Originally posted by sCreeD
Exactly, I'm comparing the specs of the 12" iBook and 12" Powerbook and wondering why exactly I paid $500 extra. The shiny aluminum? The better video out option? The fact that the AluBook is lighter? The fact that it's more compact?
Wait.
Well whatever...
Screed
12" PB is still 200 MZ faster than 12" iBook, as well. But still-- for the price? I have absolutely no use for an iBook, but I want one anyway. Bad.
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