Berkeley = $UX ? ;)

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  • Reply 21 of 25
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
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    Originally posted by applenut

    Right now I'm missing the SoCal sun and warmth....been rainy and brisk here for a week.



    We were fortunate enough to get 80+ degree weather into late October, so I'm not too pissed about the weather change. It's time for on-and-off rain showers into January now.
  • Reply 22 of 25
    Are you a CivE Applenut?



    If so, we have a keg race against your Princeton equivalents next week. EE's will win, because you can't spell beer without "ee." More seriously, we'll win because we have about 10 guys with no shame.



    Lastly, I think you guys are getting a little worked up about the number one state school. I mean, there's whole realm of private schools out there, and one of them *cough* consistently takes the overall first place honors.



    It's because of Hoagie Haven.



  • Reply 23 of 25
    Bah, I hate asian chicks.



    Seriously, they're a turnoff for me.



    No offense to any asian chicks though...
  • Reply 24 of 25
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
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    Originally posted by Splinemodel

    Are you a CivE Applenut?



    If so, we have a keg race against your Princeton equivalents next week. EE's will win, because you can't spell beer without "ee." More seriously, we'll win because we have about 10 guys with no shame.



    Lastly, I think you guys are getting a little worked up about the number one state school. I mean, there's whole realm of private schools out there, and one of them *cough* consistently takes the overall first place honors.



    It's because of Hoagie Haven.







    I'm a CivE minor and architecture major as of now.



    You probably will win, our tiny asian engineers can't hold alcohol all that well



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    We all know why Applenut really went to Berkeley. All those smart as hell, CUTE and ready to start dating for the first time in their lives Asian chicks.



    tis very very true8)



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    This thread is going way off.



    You're supposed to diss Berkeley!



    Admin, please delete the irrelevant posts.



    Stev



    I'm not into one sided bashings. you asked for it....



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    Do I sense a touch of jealousy?_ From reading your_column it seems apparent that you know very little about a University that has produced 18 Nobel Laureates and even has two elements named after it._ For sure, it is_all in good fun, but I was struck by how unfamiliar you are with Berkeley and the entire Bay Area._ I will not berate Charlottesville, as I have never been there._ But personally, I would like nothing more than to live the rest of my life in the golden hills of Berkeley where every night I can watch the sun melt away_beneath the golden gate._ And as far as statistics, I would have quoted the strength of academic departments rather than freshmen retention and alumni giving, but perhaps your numbers are not so strong.__The University of_California (aka Berkeley)_is one of the hardest, most prestigious, and most unforgiving schools in the nation - if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere._ Freshmen do fail out - unlike many_other schools,_no one will hold your hand here. _A quick search of your database revealed several articles of_a similar_nature._ I am amazed that your school is so caught up on these meaningless rankings and animosity toward Berkeley._ I read one article claiming that we have no traditions or campus life, which is interesting considering we invented the frat house and we have more school songs than any other college in the country._ Most people think we are just pot smoking liberal protestors - they should tell that to the Berkeley College Republicans, one of the most powerful groups on campus._ I assure you that I am the exception and that most Cal students don't care at all about what Virginia and the rest of America thinks of us.__Every day_we are reminded that we go to school_in the best place on Earth._ It's_hard to get worked up when you are living in paradise.



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    Go Bears,



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    Unfortunately, this isn't the first time UVA's newspaper has felt it

    neccessary to attack Berkeley. Of course, this also discounts the fact

    that most of the comparisons claimed in the article are partily

    incorrect or altogether false. Anyone who thinks we receive 36% of our

    funding from the state is insane; however, we do have a current budget

    deficit of 35% for the next two fiscal years due to the massive cuts to

    education and specifical the university of california as a system this

    year (based on current student fee proposals). Additionally, we let in

    so few out-of-state students into Cal because this is a STATE school and

    we are required by law to have no more than 10% of the student body be

    comprised of out-of-state AND international students. This leads to a

    floating cap on the admissions percentage of out-of-state students each

    year. We could, I suppose, increase this percentage in order to receive

    more revenue per student as UVA has done, (non California residents pay

    an average of $10k more per year) and it is possible that we might due

    this in the future to met our budget requirement. However, I would note

    that this is a decision for the UC Regents and not only that Berkeley

    can custom tailor as it see fit.



    I also think that UVA has a sad history of taking the rankings just a

    little too seriously. Most serious research universities (a list which

    include both UVA and Berkeley) don't put much emphasis on the US News

    rankings anyways because the are so biased towards alumni giving and the

    size of an endowment. For example, I you were comparing graduate

    history programs, Harvard would win every time under the US News system

    (by about 20 places) because they give a full fellowship to every

    doctoral student. However, a check of the latest National Research

    Council rankings (a peer-based ranking system that does not take

    monetary resources into account) finds that the Berkeley history

    department scores as #2 in the nations behind Yale and two places in

    front of #4 Hardvard. Why compare graduate program rankings? Because

    they are much more indicative of the academic quality of the faculty who

    teach the classes and lead the intellectual development of the student

    body (I might also add that quality grad programs usually means pretty

    smart TAs as well). I can tell you that as a graduate student I am much

    more concerned about the reputation of my program and my faculty mentor

    than how much money I receive or that the university receives from the

    state (although free money, of course, is always appreaciated) because

    the universities that you attend follow you throughout your academic

    career and may or may not open doors to you in academia.



    Berkeley is one of the those few names that is recognized around the

    world, both inside and outside the academic community (rather like

    Oxford, Yale, Universidad Nacional Autonomo de Mexico, and Universidad

    Complutense, Madrid to name a few). I don't think we got that

    reputation by accident. Nad (CAA President) and I are working on our

    own extended responses to echo Ben's excellent response to this attack

    piece, but don't ever let anyone tell you that the University of

    California at Berkeley isn't one of the best universities in the world.



    Go Bears,



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