I've heard it was because of some spacers that they put in behind the display... to stabilize the display and the cover... as the cover is aluminum (aluminium)... the spacers are pressing the back of the screen, giving the white spots... just what I've heard reported.
Makes me wonder if all of our collective spots on each machine are in the same areas consistently. Mine is (intermittently) in the vertical middle, about 3 inches from the left of the screen. What about you others?
Does anyone know WHY these white spots show up ? Apple didn't give any (official) explanation till now.
A bit more info would be welcome. Is it a bad lot from a certain manufactering plant ? Was it the way they stored it, shipped it ? Is it triggered by something we (the end users) do ?
They should know it by now IMO, and they should let us know they are doing something about it. So people who want to buy one feel a bit more comfortable.
Well, aparently apple are now admitting to the problems - see the following link for more info:
got picture, and its deffo not the light source from window (its dark outside) or from the light. I tried it at a few angles.
Yes, I think that is about what I've seen on my 15", but it was only obvious at certain times. I'll take another look at it when it comes back with my wife from Europe.
seems slightly worse when running on batteries. Also, I just noticed that my keyboard backlight is not working tonight. The even more bizzare thing is that it lets me adjust the brightness of them using F8,9,10 even tho they are off.... As you know you normally get the crossed out circle if the sensors think its too light.
Obviously the sensors think its dark enough, but the PB is not lighting up the KB... ???
Edit:
I just realised that my PB woke up when I unplugged the mouse (I am on bed with it on my knee) before I opened the screen. I have noticed a few weird behaviours when the BP wakes up while the screen is closed.
I just shut the lid, waited 5 seconds, and opened it again, and the lights are on now.!!
OK, My picture about half-way down this page, and ast3r3x's here look like a very similar problem...
A duff backlight maybe ?
Half of the screen dimming a bit more than the rest ?
Anyone else got this problem, even if its a bit more subtle? or are we just an unlucky pair ?
Your machine and mine are strikingly similar. I just recently had the backlit problem you had and had to put my computer to sleep and wake it up again. I think I'm regretting not getting a dual g5 \
I signed the petition, where is the class action lawsuit to get your money back? Maybe I sell my Apple stock before the shit hits the fan.
After weeks of happiness, as well as my proud claim that my new baby had no defects of any kind, I've now found multiple tiny white spots scattered around the left-center of my display. F@ck.
I'm going to wait until Apple gets the hang of fixing this problem until sending it in. I can live with it until then. At least, until they get bigger...
I have a couple what look like white spots only they are about one or two pixels big. They are in the lower left hand side of the middle of the display. I'd say 3"-4" diagonally toward the center from the bottom left part of the screen.
My display is also starting to show uneven backlighting.
I've asked for a replacement machine, and it's in the pipeline. No ETA yet. The Sales reps I talked to told me that the problem has been fixed at production (they didn't give me the "eh? what spots"), so I'm at least 55% confident that the new machine will be fine.
If you are reporting spots, it would be helpful to note when the machine was made/delivered, and whether or not it has been repaired before.
I've asked for a replacement machine, and it's in the pipeline. No ETA
hey machem, what do you mean by in the pipeline? You've had the machine for as long as I've had mine right (ordered the day they released 'em). I thought Apple wouldn't replace them after more than 10 days?
I'm sticking with mine, but I'm going to send it in for a repair during fall break (thanksgiving), as long as Apple can reassure me that they have actually fixed the problem and I won't get another defective repair.
hey machem, what do you mean by in the pipeline? You've had the machine for as long as I've had mine right (ordered the day they released 'em). I thought Apple wouldn't replace them after more than 10 days?
I'm sticking with mine, but I'm going to send it in for a repair during fall break (thanksgiving), as long as Apple can reassure me that they have actually fixed the problem and I won't get another defective repair.
-Spyky
They've fixed it once, and whether it's because it's been fixed once, or because my U bought it, or a combination, they are going to replace it. I don't have to send this one back until I have the new one. I was balancing waiting for them to permanently fix the screen issue with how long it would take to order and build a new one. I'm aware that people ordering now are seeing waits up to five weeks. They told me that I could wait a while to replace the machine, but not indefinitely.
Gives me a chance to return the 3.5 A hr battery, too.
...Gives me a chance to return the 3.5 A hr battery, too.
Why would you want to return a battery that lasts that long? That's good. I don't really get more than 3h with medium/light use ( Jaguar 10.2.8 ). Three-and-a-half hours is about the length of time going without charging that would be comfortable for me (3 x 1h lectures/classes plus a bit of leeway). Six hours, of course, would be REALLY useful.
BTW. I am so lucky that I was enough of a perfectionist to put in for a replacement PB within 10 days of purchase over 2 stuck pixels. (I know! I can't believe they let me get awat with it at that stage... There is just a no questions asked return and replace policy, apparently). Im lucky because now I've got 'The Spots', but instead of having to send in this PB for repair and be in the CATASTROPHIC situation of being without a computer, I can hang on to this defective one (for at least part of the time) while my replacement is being organised. It is gonna be quite a job to keep TNT off my back for 3-4 weeks though...
BTW. I am so lucky that I was enough of a perfectionist to put in for a replacement PB within 10 days of purchase over 2 stuck pixels. (I know! I can't believe they let me get awat with it at that stage... There is just a no questions asked return and replace policy, apparently). Im lucky because now I've got 'The Spots', but instead of having to send in this PB for repair and be in the CATASTROPHIC situation of being without a computer, I can hang on to this defective one (for at least part of the time) while my replacement is being organised. It is gonna be quite a job to keep TNT of my back for 3-4 weeks though...
If they have your parts ready it shouldn't be much more then a week without a computer.
I have a couple what look like white spots only they are about one or two pixels big. They are in the lower left hand side of the middle of the display. I'd say 3"-4" diagonally toward the center from the bottom left part of the screen.
i had 7 of those those little white dots. a couple started turning fuzzy and into those ghosty white spots after a while. they were all located on the middle to lower half of the screen, left and right sides.
my screen was also slightly unevenly lit, brighter on the right side. but someone told me that was normal. whatever... the PB is back at apple anyway while i await a replacement.
Why would you want to return a battery that lasts that long? That's good. I don't really get more than 3h with medium/light use ( Jaguar 10.2.8 ). Three-and-a-half hours is about the length of time going without charging that would be comfortable for me (3 x 1h lectures/classes plus a bit of leeway). Six hours, of course, would be REALLY useful.
My second battery has a capacity of 4.5 A hr. Note that 3.5 A hr does not mean that it lasts 3.5 hr off the power cord. My 4.5 A hr batter lasts about 3.75 hours off charge, on average.
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Makes me wonder if all of our collective spots on each machine are in the same areas consistently. Mine is (intermittently) in the vertical middle, about 3 inches from the left of the screen. What about you others?
Charlie
Originally posted by BigBlue
Does anyone know WHY these white spots show up ? Apple didn't give any (official) explanation till now.
A bit more info would be welcome. Is it a bad lot from a certain manufactering plant ? Was it the way they stored it, shipped it ? Is it triggered by something we (the end users) do ?
They should know it by now IMO, and they should let us know they are doing something about it. So people who want to buy one feel a bit more comfortable.
Well, aparently apple are now admitting to the problems - see the following link for more info:
http://www.computerworld.com/softwar...,86802,00.html
Originally posted by Gargoyle
got picture, and its deffo not the light source from window (its dark outside) or from the light. I tried it at a few angles.
Yes, I think that is about what I've seen on my 15", but it was only obvious at certain times. I'll take another look at it when it comes back with my wife from Europe.
Reason for concern?
Obviously the sensors think its dark enough, but the PB is not lighting up the KB... ???
Edit:
I just realised that my PB woke up when I unplugged the mouse (I am on bed with it on my knee) before I opened the screen. I have noticed a few weird behaviours when the BP wakes up while the screen is closed.
I just shut the lid, waited 5 seconds, and opened it again, and the lights are on now.!!
A duff backlight maybe ?
Half of the screen dimming a bit more than the rest ?
Anyone else got this problem, even if its a bit more subtle? or are we just an unlucky pair ?
Originally posted by Gargoyle
OK, My picture about half-way down this page, and ast3r3x's here look like a very similar problem...
A duff backlight maybe ?
Half of the screen dimming a bit more than the rest ?
Anyone else got this problem, even if its a bit more subtle? or are we just an unlucky pair ?
Your machine and mine are strikingly similar. I just recently had the backlit problem you had and had to put my computer to sleep and wake it up again. I think I'm regretting not getting a dual g5
I signed the petition, where is the class action lawsuit to get your money back? Maybe I sell my Apple stock before the shit hits the fan.
Please see the link below. This is another petition!!!
We started one for the whitespot epidemic and the
petition got a lot of recognition on various news reports
on the web. Apple is now responding. This is just another
problem with the PBs.
http://www.petitiononline.com/pbdefect/petition.html
cheers
After weeks of happiness, as well as my proud claim that my new baby had no defects of any kind, I've now found multiple tiny white spots scattered around the left-center of my display. F@ck.
I'm going to wait until Apple gets the hang of fixing this problem until sending it in. I can live with it until then. At least, until they get bigger...
I've asked for a replacement machine, and it's in the pipeline. No ETA yet. The Sales reps I talked to told me that the problem has been fixed at production (they didn't give me the "eh? what spots"), so I'm at least 55% confident that the new machine will be fine.
If you are reporting spots, it would be helpful to note when the machine was made/delivered, and whether or not it has been repaired before.
Originally posted by machem
I've asked for a replacement machine, and it's in the pipeline. No ETA
hey machem, what do you mean by in the pipeline? You've had the machine for as long as I've had mine right (ordered the day they released 'em). I thought Apple wouldn't replace them after more than 10 days?
I'm sticking with mine, but I'm going to send it in for a repair during fall break (thanksgiving), as long as Apple can reassure me that they have actually fixed the problem and I won't get another defective repair.
-Spyky
Originally posted by Spyky
hey machem, what do you mean by in the pipeline? You've had the machine for as long as I've had mine right (ordered the day they released 'em). I thought Apple wouldn't replace them after more than 10 days?
I'm sticking with mine, but I'm going to send it in for a repair during fall break (thanksgiving), as long as Apple can reassure me that they have actually fixed the problem and I won't get another defective repair.
-Spyky
They've fixed it once, and whether it's because it's been fixed once, or because my U bought it, or a combination, they are going to replace it. I don't have to send this one back until I have the new one. I was balancing waiting for them to permanently fix the screen issue with how long it would take to order and build a new one. I'm aware that people ordering now are seeing waits up to five weeks. They told me that I could wait a while to replace the machine, but not indefinitely.
Gives me a chance to return the 3.5 A hr battery, too.
Originally posted by machem
...Gives me a chance to return the 3.5 A hr battery, too.
Why would you want to return a battery that lasts that long? That's good. I don't really get more than 3h with medium/light use ( Jaguar 10.2.8 ). Three-and-a-half hours is about the length of time going without charging that would be comfortable for me (3 x 1h lectures/classes plus a bit of leeway). Six hours, of course, would be REALLY useful.
BTW. I am so lucky that I was enough of a perfectionist to put in for a replacement PB within 10 days of purchase over 2 stuck pixels. (I know! I can't believe they let me get awat with it at that stage... There is just a no questions asked return and replace policy, apparently). Im lucky because now I've got 'The Spots', but instead of having to send in this PB for repair and be in the CATASTROPHIC situation of being without a computer, I can hang on to this defective one (for at least part of the time) while my replacement is being organised. It is gonna be quite a job to keep TNT off my back for 3-4 weeks though...
Originally posted by SonOfSylvanus
BTW. I am so lucky that I was enough of a perfectionist to put in for a replacement PB within 10 days of purchase over 2 stuck pixels. (I know! I can't believe they let me get awat with it at that stage... There is just a no questions asked return and replace policy, apparently). Im lucky because now I've got 'The Spots', but instead of having to send in this PB for repair and be in the CATASTROPHIC situation of being without a computer, I can hang on to this defective one (for at least part of the time) while my replacement is being organised. It is gonna be quite a job to keep TNT of my back for 3-4 weeks though...
If they have your parts ready it shouldn't be much more then a week without a computer.
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I have a couple what look like white spots only they are about one or two pixels big. They are in the lower left hand side of the middle of the display. I'd say 3"-4" diagonally toward the center from the bottom left part of the screen.
i had 7 of those those little white dots. a couple started turning fuzzy and into those ghosty white spots after a while. they were all located on the middle to lower half of the screen, left and right sides.
my screen was also slightly unevenly lit, brighter on the right side. but someone told me that was normal. whatever... the PB is back at apple anyway while i await a replacement.
Originally posted by SonOfSylvanus
Why would you want to return a battery that lasts that long? That's good. I don't really get more than 3h with medium/light use ( Jaguar 10.2.8 ). Three-and-a-half hours is about the length of time going without charging that would be comfortable for me (3 x 1h lectures/classes plus a bit of leeway). Six hours, of course, would be REALLY useful.
My second battery has a capacity of 4.5 A hr. Note that 3.5 A hr does not mean that it lasts 3.5 hr off the power cord. My 4.5 A hr batter lasts about 3.75 hours off charge, on average.