Force Quit Annoyance
Force Quit always takes multiple attempts for me and has since 10.0
i'll force quit, then have to close the force quit window and reopen it so that it recognizes the app is still running and have to force quit it again
with panther it now sometimes doesnt work on the 2nd try either
why is this?
i'll force quit, then have to close the force quit window and reopen it so that it recognizes the app is still running and have to force quit it again
with panther it now sometimes doesnt work on the 2nd try either
why is this?
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Lets say Safari locked up on me, but the Force Quit dialog didn't notice anything wrong with Safari but, I noticed something wrong so screw what that dialog says and Force Quit.
Also another thing that's been in OS X since Jaguar is a neat little feature. When control-clicking the icon (that is locked up) in the Dock and hold option... This should change the Quit selection to Force Quit. That's another method but, I'm not done yet.
New to Panther, you can now Force Quit on the fly. Say Safari Locked up again and you need to Force Quit it again. Press cmd-option-shift-esc while Safari is the active. This will Force Quit it instantly (no dialog and no fiddling with the Dock)
I hope this helped... please tell me if you got it working again.
Panther also lets you quit the force quit the app you are in without any list to choose from, if you so wish to do that.
In Panther: Command-Option-Shift-Esc will instantly force quit the frontmost application, with no further user input.
But if the app is having trouble, it almost always takes several tries for me, and not infrequently it doesn't work at all.
Originally posted by BRussell
Yeah, it works great if the app isn't hanging.
But if the app is having trouble, it almost always takes several tries for me, and not infrequently it doesn't work at all.
Try force quitting with the terminal. Works ALL the time and instantly zuperfast. It's quite easy -even for me- and I'm certainly no geek. 8)
Will have to remember the shift variant that bypasses the dialog.
Often, ctrl-opt clicking on the app's Dock icon to access Force Quit works when the dialog doesn't. *shrug*
Originally posted by BigBlue
Try force quitting with the terminal. Works ALL the time and instantly zuperfast. It's quite easy -even for me- and I'm certainly no geek. 8)
IF you can get to the Terminal. I've had a bunch of situations where the Dock is hung, and the Finder is hung... even Moki's escapePod wouldn't work.
We need a hardware interrupt switch that would trigger a kernel debugger console. Hmm - seems all the Macs used to have that until recently...
BRussell's right, it only works when the app isN'T crashed.
Hell, I've had the finder refuse to quit even after I've done a "sudo kill -9" on its sorry ass. I can't understand that one to save my life.
Damn! That's bad, I assume it was SMB?
Originally posted by Aquatic
Yeah really, what happened to that functionality and macsbug?
BRussell's right, it only works when the app isN'T crashed.
Damn! That's bad, I assume it was SMB?
Nope. I can't remember what it was but it wasn't SMB. I think it was MirrorAgent (iDisk syncing, I believe.)
Originally posted by jwri004
You can click and hold on the app in the dock, and it will bring up the options as well. No option, command click rubbish required.
But that doesn't do a thing if the app doesn't respond to the force quit command (what we're talking about going on here).
Originally posted by jwri004
You can click and hold on the app in the dock, and it will bring up the options as well. No option, command click rubbish required.
And, that only works if the OS (and hence the Dock) recognize the app as hung and unresponsive. Otherwise, you have to press option to enable the *Force* Quit item instead of just Quit. You are correct about not having to press ctrl though.
And, as pensieve points out, this doesn't always work if the app is really screwed.
I almost never have the problems described here and I consider myself to be quite the power user. \
Originally posted by Kickaha
Often, ctrl-opt clicking on the app's Dock icon to access Force Quit works when the dialog doesn't. *shrug*
heh funny, a lot of times i have it exactly the other way round. one or two times i also had it happen that even a kill -9 wouldn´t help at all (but that was not on panther).
but i agree that it often *is* unreliable when you really need it.
Originally posted by Spaztik
Also another thing that's been in OS X since Jaguar is a neat little feature. When control-clicking the icon (that is locked up) in the Dock and hold option... This should change the Quit selection to Force Quit. That's another method but, I'm not done yet.
Ironically, sometimes when I have a lot of apps open and quitting takes a long time I just Ctrl+option click a dock icon and force quit! Long live OS X's easy force quit.
P.S. Talk about use of vB Code!
Makes you wonder why Steve doesn't do a Moto on that team.
Originally posted by Brad
Threads like this always make me wonder what kind of weird computing habits other people have that make these problems arise.
I almost never have the problems described here and I consider myself to be quite the power user. \
its not weird computing habits....and it has happened on every system i've used and also happens to my brother and mother and obviously many people here
if an app hangs.....which is THE REASON TO FORCE QUIT......and you try to....it doesn't on first try more often than not.
and its annoying and stupid as hell.