Wesley Clark 2004
That's right Fellows is for Wes 04
For the Americans who plan to vote in the next election please discuss all things political. Feel more than free and open to discuss who you support and why.
I have dropped support for George Bush as I believe America is less safe, less admired, and less in many ways.
The foreign policy of George Bush is wreckless and it makes the world a place of more division and less true progress.
I put my support behind Wesley Clark 2004
Learn more about Wesley Clark
HERE
Fellowship
For the Americans who plan to vote in the next election please discuss all things political. Feel more than free and open to discuss who you support and why.
I have dropped support for George Bush as I believe America is less safe, less admired, and less in many ways.
The foreign policy of George Bush is wreckless and it makes the world a place of more division and less true progress.
I put my support behind Wesley Clark 2004
Learn more about Wesley Clark
HERE
Fellowship
Comments
but generally (ehem) I think that he is an intelligent thoughtful man who researches very deeply into any position . . . very knowledgeable
he may not have the pollished pattter of a politician . . . and sometimes seems awkward as he tries it out (as opposed to Bush who is all polished pretense at being an "Outsider" while actually being the consumatte silver-spooned insider)
and besides that he is dripping with leadership
even though he's short . . .
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
That's right Fellows is for Wes 04
For the Americans who plan to vote in the next election please discuss all things political. Feel more than free and open to discuss who you support and why.
I have dropped support for George Bush as I believe America is less safe, less admired, and less in many ways.
The foreign policy of George Bush is wreckless and it makes the world a place of more division and less true progress.
I put my support behind Wesley Clark 2004
Learn more about Wesley Clark
HERE
Fellowship
I thought you were a rebulican....
I'm with you though for the most part. I'd kill to see McCain run again as an independent or something but I'm with you. Dean for some reason doesn't appeal to me at all, and I really dislike Bush for basically the same reasons. All I know is that if Sharpton wins the primary (but some freaky weird thing like all other canadiates die) Bush gets my vote.
He's not Bush.
He has a military record so that will help him beat Bush.
He's running as a Democrat.
Originally posted by Scott
As far as I can tell the reasons to vote for Clark are
He's not Bush.
He has a military record so that will help him beat Bush.
He's running as a Democrat.
Actually I agree with Scott on this one. Wesley Clark should withdraw his candidacy immediately.
Those that disagree with George Bush would only be voting for someone else because they prefer the policies of the alternative, and this is (Scott is quite right) abolutely no basis at all for a serious, reasoned decision.
It is unacceptable that someone should run against George Bush for the Presidency, thereby offering the American electorate a choice of a policies derived from a different political ethos.
Scott is spot on.
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Actually I agree with Scott on this one. Wesley Clark should withdraw his candidacy immediately.
Those that disagree with George Bush would only be voting for someone else because they prefer the policies of the alternative, and this is (Scott is quite right) abolutely no basis at all for a serious, reasoned decision.
It is unacceptable that someone should run against George Bush for the Presidency, thereby offering the American electorate a choice of a policies derived from a different political ethos.
Scott is spot on.
Hehe, hassan you troublemaker!
...whats wrong with bush anyway?
Originally posted by pfflam
even though he's short . . .
what's up with his shoulders? every time i see him they seem to be getting larger. he looks like david byrne when he wore the big suit in
"Stop Making Sense"
Originally posted by Scott
As far as I can tell the reasons to vote for Clark are
He's not Bush.
He has a military record so that will help him beat Bush.
He's running as a Democrat.
Misguided on all counts Scott.
With respect I choose to support Clark as he is intelligent, well spoken, and shares values that are closer tied to my views than does President Bush.
In his 100 year vision Clark shares ideas and values that better adhear to my views than does President Bush.
The environment, a pluralistic society (not one owned by the Religious Right), issues of trade and jobs, and other priorities set Clark leap years ahead of Bush.
Fellowship
www.al2004.org (sharpton) has my vote if that is the case... I think they would be good running mates... hehe...
its too bad that neither one has a legitimate shot. They really should withdraw... but all of the candidates are too stubborn to yield...
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Those that disagree with George Bush would only be voting for someone else because they prefer the policies of the alternative, and this is (Scott is quite right) abolutely no basis at all for a serious, reasoned decision.
But Hassan, our two party non-proportional system pushes this exact set of circumstances. They're no way to avoid it. In a Parliament, you would vote for who you like because there's a good chance they'll get some small amount of power. But in our system we have no choice. If we really like someone, it doesn't matter. We have to vote with the main candidate that's most likely to beat our least favorite candidate. Very rarely do we see an exception to this happen (Perot.)
So with a case like Clark, someone might not like all he has to offer. Someone might really like Kucinich, but that doesn't matter. When all is said and done you won't be able to vote for him anyway unless he gets the nomination. So if and when he doesn't, does that mean you don't vote at all? You write him in? Or you balance the two remaining candidates and vote for the one that's closest to your ideals?
If the election is Bush vs. Clark, I'll say neither are ideal. I wouldn't ask either one to run the country if I could ask anyone to do it. But I don't have that choice. Instead, if it comes down to those two, I will have to decide which candidate is best for the country even if I don't really like either.
I guess in a sense you're right, this isn't a good basis for a serious reasoned decision. But it is the only way to make a decision under these circumstances. Either that or don't vote at all.
Not that I didn't read your post, but I was being as ironic as I possibly could in mine! Like all my posts, I was making a joke at the expense of Scott.
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Bungibus!
Not that I didn't read your post, but I was being as ironic as I possibly could in mine! Like all my posts, I was making a joke at the expense of Scott.
You had me fooled to . . . I could see that people might see it as Scott does, IF they have never listened to Clarke talk and seen how intelligent and direct he is . . . and, how much he researches each issue down to the details that would leave most politicians scratching their heads dumbfoundedly
Fellowship, do you really want to vote for someone who:
1. Supports abortion rights, even "partial-birth" abortion?
2. Wants to reverse many of Bush's tax cuts?
3. Would make you register as a Democrat to vote for him in the primary?
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Bungibus!
Not that I didn't read your post, but I was being as ironic as I possibly could in mine! Like all my posts, I was making a joke at the expense of Scott.
My head hurts.
OK, I could go back and edit, but I don't mind playing the fool for a good joke. If I try hard enough I might get as good at it as Scott is!
I'll be here all week.
Thank you, good night.
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Bungibus!
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Did you mean Bung ibus?
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Try looking up each word separately:
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bung
1. A stopper especially for the hole through which a cask, keg, or barrel is filled or emptied.
2. A bunghole.
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I think I have a new favorite word.
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Like all my posts, I was making a joke at the expense of Scott.
Originally posted by 709
I think I have a new favorite word.
I think I need to find a new favorite handle....
Post-triptophan synapse misfire. My apologies.
Didn´t any of you get your morning coffee today?