[quote]Umm if it ain't fake then why does MOSR still have them up and why are they available throughout this board? Usually Apple legal is far more throrough and quicker. <hr></blockquote>
beucuase it was 4pm West coast time when you posted. maybe everyone was gone to dinner.
<strong>Umm if it ain't fake then why does MOSR still have them up and why are they available throughout this board? Usually Apple legal is far more throrough and quicker.
Then again faking this is pretty hard</strong><hr></blockquote>
The french site that broke the story with the pics has a cease and desist letter from Apple legal post on their site. So, there's your proof I suppose.
In the mobo pic (with the diagonal daughter card in the center) it looks like there are a lot of jumpers on the board (maybe 5 or more on the side that's visible). Jumpers are common on prototypes but it seems unlikely that this is a ready-for-production board.
On the other hand, I don't own a PM tower, and I can't easily inpect my iMac mobo - maybe Apple does ship boards with lots of jumpers? Nah! <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
The original QS (733, 867, and Dual 800) was introduced at MWNY 01. It was speed bumped after MWSF 02.
Based on the jumpers and wire patches, this has to be a prototype. Based on the 2001 date, it probably is an old one. Also the construction of the case internals is very shoddy and lacks finish, so I think the case is a prototype and will only superficially resemble the new case, it we get a new one. I don't think we will until MWSF. I hope I'm incorrect and we get it earlier with some fast hardware.
<strong>The original QS (733, 867, and Dual 800) was introduced at MWNY 01. It was speed bumped at MWSF 02.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The original QS was introed at MWNY '01, which was the last MacWorld during which pro products were updated. It was speed bumped a few weeks after MWSF '02.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I DO NOT believe this PDF document. A 7lb heatsink is totally assanine...I mean come on and pull your heads out of your asses.
The newest Intel/AMD chips don't have boat anchors for heatsinks. Putting such a huge chunk of metal inside the box will pin Apple to the wall as the laughingstock of the computer industry unless they're bringing a 50Ghz chip to the market.
SO.
Sure the case was SOMETHING real...but I'm not convinced it's a real stab at a product design. I vote with those calling it a mule (most of us)...but I tend to go with the idea that it's an OLD MULE.
Somebody's having fun with us.
The next tower will be faster, but I'm not expecting anything wild.
Making a case swoopy doesn't make it faster.
Making it faster makes it faster.
There's my 2¢...I know you've all been waiting with bated breath.
But thought better and covered it up with a white box. Methinks he just invented some info when he came across the new photo in question...those "vents" is cable ports...
i dunno as time goes by the more legit this seems.
<a href="http://www.Macrumors.com"; target="_blank">www.Macrumors.com</a> says a source of theirs says they are legit and that they had to remove the stuff at apple legal and they are usually accurate....
what if its apple legal procdedure to send a cease and desist for any hardware including long dead protoypes and things that look like long dead prototypes. if this the case then apple sending a cease and desist would not mean this is the next powermac.
also, if the french web site did not want to put up the money to fight it then pulling them would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer.
<strong>what if its apple legal procdedure to send a cease and desist for any hardware including long dead protoypes and things that look like long dead prototypes. if this the case then apple sending a cease and desist would not mean this is the next powermac.
also, if the french web site did not want to put up the money to fight it then pulling them would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple sending cease and desist is an indication of its validity. Not saying its real or fake.
I understand that part. what i am saying is what if its an old prototype and their policy is to send the letter whether its a new machine or an old prototype.
that pdf post above is quite the curveball. strange.
July 22 - 09:00 ET Industrial Light and Magic, the company responsible for the special effects in Star Wars, has switched from using RISC-Unix workstations from SGI to using Intel-based Dell systems running Linux for the bulk of its animation and special effects work, according to c|net. The switch included the purchase of 600 Pentium 4 workstations. "The Intel workstations that were deployed were probably 20 percent of the price of SGI workstations we bought a few years ago. Performance-wise, they are about three times as fast," said Cliff Plumer, ILM's CTO. "
Now. What this has to do with new 'power'Macs...I don't know...
(/endpaste)
Inside of ILM is a group known as the "Rebel Unit" and they will give you their Macs when you pry them from their cold, dead fingers.
Pickup the EpII edition of Cinefex and see for yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, outside of the fact that over half of them were just laid off. About the only mac users left at ILM are the previz group, and the matte painters.
I always thought motorcycles DID overheat if they were standing still for very long (which is why they're allowed to weave between cars during traffic jams).
Gah. For all you people questioning the heat sink, can you all say with me "Apple had a computer called the Cube."?
Come on people. Don't tell people to tell each other to pull their heads out of your asses...sit down, have a nice cup of java and THINK. Jeez. I know you are all excited considering the state of rumors the past couple of months....
OK, back to the heat sink. The cube was a beast---much heavier than you'd expect for it's size. AND the power supply was separate. What do you think made that thing like 20 lbs? THE HEAT SINK. (It was a at least a quarter of the volume too.) And this new powermac has a variable speed fan. EXCELLENT I say. Now most of the time this thing will be really quiet...who gives a crap if it weighs 5 pounds more than normal?
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beucuase it was 4pm West coast time when you posted. maybe everyone was gone to dinner.
<strong>Umm if it ain't fake then why does MOSR still have them up and why are they available throughout this board? Usually Apple legal is far more throrough and quicker.
Then again faking this is pretty hard</strong><hr></blockquote>
The french site that broke the story with the pics has a cease and desist letter from Apple legal post on their site. So, there's your proof I suppose.
On the other hand, I don't own a PM tower, and I can't easily inpect my iMac mobo - maybe Apple does ship boards with lots of jumpers? Nah! <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Based on the jumpers and wire patches, this has to be a prototype. Based on the 2001 date, it probably is an old one. Also the construction of the case internals is very shoddy and lacks finish, so I think the case is a prototype and will only superficially resemble the new case, it we get a new one. I don't think we will until MWSF. I hope I'm incorrect and we get it earlier with some fast hardware.
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<strong>The original QS (733, 867, and Dual 800) was introduced at MWNY 01. It was speed bumped at MWSF 02.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The original QS was introed at MWNY '01, which was the last MacWorld during which pro products were updated. It was speed bumped a few weeks after MWSF '02.
Does it mean anything that the mobo has a copyright date of 2001?
umm code warrior WE WILL DEFINATELY get an update before MWSF i think thats logical.
even more logicial is next month
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So which is heavier: a 7 lb aluminum heatsink or a 7 lb steel heatsink?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I just had to laugh <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I DO NOT believe this PDF document. A 7lb heatsink is totally assanine...I mean come on and pull your heads out of your asses.
The newest Intel/AMD chips don't have boat anchors for heatsinks. Putting such a huge chunk of metal inside the box will pin Apple to the wall as the laughingstock of the computer industry unless they're bringing a 50Ghz chip to the market.
SO.
Sure the case was SOMETHING real...but I'm not convinced it's a real stab at a product design. I vote with those calling it a mule (most of us)...but I tend to go with the idea that it's an OLD MULE.
Somebody's having fun with us.
The next tower will be faster, but I'm not expecting anything wild.
Making a case swoopy doesn't make it faster.
Making it faster makes it faster.
There's my 2¢...I know you've all been waiting with bated breath.
D
<strong>Okay:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I DO NOT believe this PDF document.
D</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hear ya. If you open his pdf with a vector editing package you find that at some point in creating the page he had the page headed like this:
[off-site image]
<a href="http://www.screenimages.com/pages/apple/pdf.gif"; target="_blank">http://www.screenimages.com/pages/apple/pdf.gif</a>;
But thought better and covered it up with a white box. Methinks he just invented some info when he came across the new photo in question...those "vents" is cable ports...
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<a href="http://www.Macrumors.com"; target="_blank">www.Macrumors.com</a> says a source of theirs says they are legit and that they had to remove the stuff at apple legal and they are usually accurate....
I wanna see what THINKSECRET thinks
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also, if the french web site did not want to put up the money to fight it then pulling them would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer.
<strong>what if its apple legal procdedure to send a cease and desist for any hardware including long dead protoypes and things that look like long dead prototypes. if this the case then apple sending a cease and desist would not mean this is the next powermac.
also, if the french web site did not want to put up the money to fight it then pulling them would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple sending cease and desist is an indication of its validity. Not saying its real or fake.
Apple has not had stuff like iWalk removed.
And other crap thats been floating around
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that pdf post above is quite the curveball. strange.
<strong>Lemon Bob Bon posted at 07-22-2002 09:21 AM Â*Â*Â* Â*Â* Â*Â* Â*Â* Â* Â* Â*Â*
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From Macminute...
"Industrial Light and Magic moves to Dell
July 22 - 09:00 ET Industrial Light and Magic, the company responsible for the special effects in Star Wars, has switched from using RISC-Unix workstations from SGI to using Intel-based Dell systems running Linux for the bulk of its animation and special effects work, according to c|net. The switch included the purchase of 600 Pentium 4 workstations. "The Intel workstations that were deployed were probably 20 percent of the price of SGI workstations we bought a few years ago. Performance-wise, they are about three times as fast," said Cliff Plumer, ILM's CTO. "
Now. What this has to do with new 'power'Macs...I don't know...
(/endpaste)
Inside of ILM is a group known as the "Rebel Unit" and they will give you their Macs when you pry them from their cold, dead fingers.
Pickup the EpII edition of Cinefex and see for yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, outside of the fact that over half of them were just laid off. About the only mac users left at ILM are the previz group, and the matte painters.
Come on people. Don't tell people to tell each other to pull their heads out of your asses...sit down, have a nice cup of java and THINK. Jeez. I know you are all excited considering the state of rumors the past couple of months....
OK, back to the heat sink. The cube was a beast---much heavier than you'd expect for it's size. AND the power supply was separate. What do you think made that thing like 20 lbs? THE HEAT SINK. (It was a at least a quarter of the volume too.) And this new powermac has a variable speed fan. EXCELLENT I say. Now most of the time this thing will be really quiet...who gives a crap if it weighs 5 pounds more than normal?
ciao-- GP
good point. if all models go DUAL then i could see it happening. if.
perhaps the new latch door device will come supplied with a grill for cooking
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good point. if all models go DUAL then i could see it happening. if.
perhaps the new latch door device will come supplied with a grill for cooking
Nothing like a nice hot dog grilled over a G4 heatsink.
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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