<strong>So I'd gather, the input signals are fed through some sort of voltage comparators and depending upon the gate, it makes a a voltage decision (output)
(...)
42 combinations over 8 combinations with just base2 (unless I made some mistakes) 80% More!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, but how do you intend to perform logical operations on four-state values? What is 3 AND 4? (Note: Saying 3 OR 4 in a four-state machine would be 0011 OR 0100 = 0111 is not an option - if you convert back to binary representation before doing the actual operation, you don't have any benefit over using a binary machine in the first place).
I have no intention of reading this entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the obvious reason why there is no base 3+ has to do with the reliability of the non-binary data.
With a limited pallette of 1 and 0, digital media gains reknowned reliability, ie cdroms, binary files, etc. The reason for this is, on a physical level, you have to screw up a 1 a WHOLE LOT before it starts looking like a 0, and vice versa. With checksums and such, even if a bit is not readable, if it is known to NOT be a 0, it therefore is a 1.
1 and 0 are electrically and physically dissimilar. As soon as you break the polar-opposite spectrum and create threes and fours, the reliability gos to shit.
<strong>I have no intention of reading this entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the obvious reason why there is no base 3+ has to do with the reliability of the non-binary data.
With a limited pallette of 1 and 0, digital media gains reknowned reliability, ie cdroms, binary files, etc. The reason for this is, on a physical level, you have to screw up a 1 a WHOLE LOT before it starts looking like a 0, and vice versa. With checksums and such, even if a bit is not readable, if it is known to NOT be a 0, it therefore is a 1.
1 and 0 are electrically and physically dissimilar. As soon as you break the polar-opposite spectrum and create threes and fours, the reliability gos to shit.
1 and 0 is the way and the light.</strong><hr></blockquote>
When we reach quantum computing we will be on the level of DNA. Look at it like this, a base 3 code would be like our TVs which use three colors to display a flat picture of thousands of different color variations. that could take the form of -, 0, or +. So you could have your switch go one way for - another way for 0 (no voltage) or another way for + voltage. Now that's something we already have all around us, it's called AC power. Go one more level and you would have a base 4 code like our DNA which makes us in 3D not just a flat screen.
If you added something interesting and the least bit new it might be cool. But this way it looks like you are just prepping an accont for use as a spambot. Your examples are rubbish by the way...
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Originally posted by MajorMatt:
Very Interesting, although the complexity grows exponentially with such an idea.
So I'd gather, the input signals are fed through some sort of voltage comparators and depending upon the gate, it makes a a voltage decision (output)
Using 0,1,2,3 look at what you get:
000 002 003 112 113 323
001 022 033 122 133 223
011 222 333 121 333 233
111 220 330 221 331 333
110 200 300 211 311 332
100 202 303 212 313 322
101 020 030 131 232
010
42 combinations over 8 combinations with just base2 (unless I made some mistakes) 80% More!
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Yeah, you missed a bunch
000 002 003 112 113 323 132 102
001 022 033 122 133 223 321 120
011 222 333 121 333 233 312 210
111 220 330 221 331 333 231 201
110 200 300 211 311 332 213
100 202 303 212 313 322 012
101 020 030 131 232 123 021
010
I missed some too, but that's 54
(the smarter way to do it is simply 4^3=64)
which is 8X more storage space. (800%)
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Actually it is 4^4 = 256
Here is the full set:
0000 0001 0002 0003
0010 0011 0012 0013
0020 0021 0022 0023
0030 0031 0032 0033
0100 0101 0102 0103
0110 0111 0112 0113
0120 0121 0122 0123
0130 0131 0132 0133
0200 0201 0202 0203
0210 0211 0212 0213
0220 0221 0222 0223
0230 0231 0232 0233
0300 0301 0302 0303
0310 0311 0312 0313
0320 0321 0322 0323
0330 0331 0332 0333
1000 1001 1002 1003
1010 1011 1012 1013
1020 1021 1022 1023
1030 1031 1032 1033
1100 1101 1102 1103
1110 1111 1112 1113
1120 1121 1122 1123
1130 1131 1132 1133
1200 1201 1202 1203
1210 1211 1212 1213
1220 1221 1222 1223
1230 1231 1232 1233
1300 1301 1302 1303
1310 1311 1312 1313
1320 1321 1322 1323
1330 1331 1332 1333
2000 2001 2002 2003
2010 2011 2012 2013
2020 2021 2022 2023
2030 2031 2032 2033
2100 2101 2102 2103
2110 2111 2112 2113
2120 2121 2122 2123
2130 2131 2132 2133
2200 2201 2202 2203
2210 2211 2212 2213
2220 2221 2222 2223
2230 2231 2232 2233
2300 2301 2302 2303
2310 2311 2312 2313
2320 2321 2322 2323
2330 2331 2332 2333
3000 3001 3002 3003
3010 3011 3012 3013
3020 3021 3022 3023
3030 3031 3032 3033
3100 3101 3102 3103
3110 3111 3112 3113
3120 3121 3122 3123
3130 3131 3132 3133
3200 3201 3202 3203
3210 3211 3212 3213
3220 3221 3222 3223
3230 3231 3232 3233
3300 3301 3302 3303
3310 3311 3312 3313
3320 3321 3322 3323
3330 3331 3332 3333
Or more briefly,stealing from the Einsteinian tensor notation convention:
ijkl
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000 001 002 003
010 011 012 013
020 021 022 023
030 031 032 033
100 101 102 103
110 111 112 113
120 121 122 123
130 131 132 133
200 201 202 203
210 211 212 213
220 221 222 223
230 231 232 233
300 301 302 303
310 311 312 313
320 321 322 323
330 331 332 333
<strong>So I'd gather, the input signals are fed through some sort of voltage comparators and depending upon the gate, it makes a a voltage decision (output)
(...)
42 combinations over 8 combinations with just base2 (unless I made some mistakes) 80% More!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, but how do you intend to perform logical operations on four-state values? What is 3 AND 4? (Note: Saying 3 OR 4 in a four-state machine would be 0011 OR 0100 = 0111 is not an option - if you convert back to binary representation before doing the actual operation, you don't have any benefit over using a binary machine in the first place).
Bye,
RazzFazz
With a limited pallette of 1 and 0, digital media gains reknowned reliability, ie cdroms, binary files, etc. The reason for this is, on a physical level, you have to screw up a 1 a WHOLE LOT before it starts looking like a 0, and vice versa. With checksums and such, even if a bit is not readable, if it is known to NOT be a 0, it therefore is a 1.
1 and 0 are electrically and physically dissimilar. As soon as you break the polar-opposite spectrum and create threes and fours, the reliability gos to shit.
1 and 0 is the way and the light.
I forgot to combine them in threes, not just two's
i.e. (0:1 0:2 1:2 0:3 1:3 3:2)
And I dont know what to do or fathom about multiple voltage input gates....
PS - Does everyone know op-amps were originally intended for mathematical calculations?
<strong>I have no intention of reading this entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the obvious reason why there is no base 3+ has to do with the reliability of the non-binary data.
With a limited pallette of 1 and 0, digital media gains reknowned reliability, ie cdroms, binary files, etc. The reason for this is, on a physical level, you have to screw up a 1 a WHOLE LOT before it starts looking like a 0, and vice versa. With checksums and such, even if a bit is not readable, if it is known to NOT be a 0, it therefore is a 1.
1 and 0 are electrically and physically dissimilar. As soon as you break the polar-opposite spectrum and create threes and fours, the reliability gos to shit.
1 and 0 is the way and the light.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, several times.
When we reach quantum computing we will be on the level of DNA. Look at it like this, a base 3 code would be like our TVs which use three colors to display a flat picture of thousands of different color variations. that could take the form of -, 0, or +. So you could have your switch go one way for - another way for 0 (no voltage) or another way for + voltage. Now that's something we already have all around us, it's called AC power. Go one more level and you would have a base 4 code like our DNA which makes us in 3D not just a flat screen.
This WAS as 12+ year dead thread...
If you added something interesting and the least bit new it might be cool. But this way it looks like you are just prepping an accont for use as a spambot. Your examples are rubbish by the way...