Your Strategies Against Terrorism
We've seen a gaggle of threads in AppleOutsider playing Monday morning quarterback to America's involvement in world affairs over the last two years. Post your ideas for alternate strategies that we might employ from this point forward toward reducing the danger of terrorism directed toward the West from terrorist organizations.
Project into the future. How would your plan work? Be wordy, write in complete sentences. Don't look back and whine, look forward and strategize.
Project into the future. How would your plan work? Be wordy, write in complete sentences. Don't look back and whine, look forward and strategize.
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Most obvious thing is to cut their motives. Think what makes them angry and make that go away. A good start would be to force a peace on Israelis and Palestinians until the border thing is settled. Promote education in poor countries. Promote unbiased media. Never tell lies in public, not to other countries, not to your own citizens. Never attack other countries with fake "evidence" and invent new motives as the "evidence" is proven wrong.
Then cut down the terrorists' material and manpower support. Take the stance that terrorists are criminals and they will be caught primarily by police methods, not by military. Most importantly, freeze their money and pay for good in-person undercover work in stead of building more spy satellites and strategic missile defenses. Only attack a whole country if there's real proof that the country sponsors terrorism. If there are a few terrorist camps along a border in an undeveloped country, feel free to shoot them up with cruise missiles, no need to go to war and demonize the whole country for that.
I think it's a waste of time to put a lot of resources to static defense like guarding specific targets. The terrorists are just going to hit something else. Static defenses only stop idiots and give people a false sense of security.
Originally posted by drewprops
Post your ideas for alternate strategies that we might employ from this point forward toward reducing the danger of terrorism directed toward the West from terrorist organizations.
Why just the west ?
Here is an idea:
Wish on your enemies' children that which you would wish for your own.
A future filled with hope & understanding.
Amen
Originally posted by Aquafire
Here is an idea:
Wish on your enemies' children that which you would wish for your own.
A future filled with hope & understanding.
And act according to your wish.
Merry christmas everyone.
Originally posted by Gon
Depends what kind of terrorism.
Most obvious thing is to cut their motives. Think what makes them angry and make that go away. A good start would be to force a peace on Israelis and Palestinians until the border thing is settled. Promote education in poor countries. Promote unbiased media. Never tell lies in public, not to other countries, not to your own citizens. Never attack other countries with fake "evidence" and invent new motives as the "evidence" is proven wrong.
Then cut down the terrorists' material and manpower support. Take the stance that terrorists are criminals and they will be caught primarily by police methods, not by military. Most importantly, freeze their money and pay for good in-person undercover work in stead of building more spy satellites and strategic missile defenses. Only attack a whole country if there's real proof that the country sponsors terrorism. If there are a few terrorist camps along a border in an undeveloped country, feel free to shoot them up with cruise missiles, no need to go to war and demonize the whole country for that.
I think it's a waste of time to put a lot of resources to static defense like guarding specific targets. The terrorists are just going to hit something else. Static defenses only stop idiots and give people a false sense of security.
Oh My God. There we have it. The United States is not responsible for creating terror. There are plenty of poor, underveloped nations where terror does not thrive. We are talking about an extreme sect of Islam hell bent on converting the world or destroying it in the process. We are talking about a sect that is the most extreme of the extreme....and you want to "promote unbiased media" to fix it? You want to "shoot them up with cruise missles"....oh, GOOD IDEA, Mr. Clinton. I suppose in that instead of burning a hornet next we should jsut kick it and poke it with a stick. It's too much work and too much risk to burn it and be rid of it forever. Also, let's not have any defense against regimes who may be capable of lauching an ICBM at us in 5-15 years. Oh, and for good measure let's stop punishing nations who support terror and stop guarding fixed targets here in the US on top of it.
Wow.
Originally posted by stupider...likeafox
Stop letting people with vested interests in continuing warfare run your country. This applies to Israel, Palestine and the US amongst others.
What page of the Liberal HandBook is that on again? I can't find it right now.
Saudi Arabia is the enemy. So instead of spending money on warfare, put all that money you were going to spend on tanks into research groups that are developing new power sources, and fuel cells. For the sooner we don't need oil, the sooner one-crop oil economies fail, and the sooner Islamic fundamentalists lose their bank accounts.
Compare that to the Saudi connection. When you hear 'the Saudi royals financed 9.11' what is being referred to is a donation by Princess Haifa that, through a contorted path, possibly eventually made its way to being used for 9/11.
Who's Princess Haifi?
When George and Barbara Bush visited the troops in Saudi Arabia during theThanksgiving holiday in 1990, Bush called Bandar, who was in Saudi Arabia at the time.Bandar went to the private quarters in the royal palace where the Bushes were staying. Bush had tears in his eyes, and Bandar, worried, asked what had happened. Bush explained that Dorothy, their recently divorced daughter, was alone at the White House with her children. They had called her from the airplane and learned that Bandar's wife, Haifa, had invited Doro and her children to spend Thanksgiving with her. ("I don't have parents now," Haifa told me. "The Bushes are like my mother and father. I know if ever I needed anything I could go to them.")
http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/in...ce-bandar.html
Anyway, all I'm saying is that there clearly is a more complex reason why the US is not going after pakistan. As for Saudi Arabia, I don't see why people keep on forgetting about the relationships involved. Think about it. Baker was in a meeting with Osama's brother on the morning of 9/11.
Speaking of coincidental meetings on the morning of 9/11, the head of the ISI, Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed, the same one that it appears wired $100,000 to Atta, was in washington meeting with Graham and Gross, the heads of the senate and congressional intelligence committees. They had all just met two or three weeks earlier in Pakistan.
I'd like to deconstruct some of what Gon posted...Gon's comments are italicized, mine are in maroon text.
Gon: Most obvious thing is to cut their motives. Think what makes them angry and make that go away. A good start would be to force a peace on Israelis and Palestinians until the border thing is settled.
Gon: Promote education in poor countries.
Gon: Promote unbiased media.
Gon: Never tell lies in public, not to other countries, not to your own citizens.
Gon: Never attack other countries with fake "evidence" and invent new motives as the "evidence" is proven wrong.
My own thoughts on how to beat terrorism, worldwide, is a continued homogenization of cultures - something that I personally disdain. As cultural identities are diminished we lose enmity for others, but we lose our uniqueness in the process.
The reality is that there are far too many people on the planet to ever become one unified bloc, and conflict will continue as long as this is the case.
Choose the means now, or they will be chosen for you later.
Originally posted by drewprops
Post your ideas for alternate strategies that we might employ from this point forward toward reducing the danger of terrorism directed toward the West from terrorist organizations.
We must go after the terrorists where they are, and we must take the fight to them before they take the fight to us. Step one, I think, is obvious: invade and conquer Texas.
Cheers
Scott
Originally posted by billybobsky
once a day mandatory checking of underwear.
Check!
Oh jeepers, I think Al Queda done bombed my underwear....ewwwww.
Otherwise, my terrorism strategy is to get lucky and not be nearby when the next attack comes, in whatever form it might take. Or not be nearby and then get lucky as the case may be....
It's plain that everyone is a player, or potential player. Let's all fight each other.
Although there's no universal way of stopping terrorism, one way of starting the ball rolling would be to get the international community to (put into place a scheme to) make sure that no group of people on this earth is to ever be put in a position where they have perpetually unresolved grievances, where the only ways of making their grievances heard are therefore via violent means. (easier said than done, but humans are creative, resourceful creatures). The grievances which eventually cause violent reaction are, for example, oppression, foreign occupation, humiliation, hopelessness, extreme poverty, ruthless exploitation, and non-representation. SDW talks about how some poor and undeveloped nations don't foster terrorism. That is most of them, by the way! Of course they don't! Human beings do NOT have to be materially wealthy or exist in an industrialized society with lots of *things* to have a meaningful or fulfilled life on this planet. However, if people in those nations are exploited to the point of realizing the conditions I mention above, then the terror mindset will fester, until it suddenly becomes cancerous. The US is now the world's sole superpower, and a responsible way of conducting the "war on terror" could be accomplished by formulating our foreign policies so as to make sure the conditions which allow the development of terrorism don't get started in other territories, for example in Central and South America over the next decade or 2 or 3. If we think we have problems now with the middle east now....
And another thing....we should exercise extreme discretion and caution as regards which evil dictators and brutal regimes our defense contractors (and those of other industrialized nations) make mega$$$ by selling weapons (including parts to manufacture WMDs) to! In these instances, free trade be damned, and to hell with the arms dealers. Adnan Khashoggi and all the other scumbags....go rot in hell.