Low Cost FireWire TV input device?

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  • Reply 81 of 135
    aphelionaphelion Posts: 736member
    It would seem that Microsoft and Intel aim to turn the PC into a Digital Hub so there must be room for at least two more "Giants" to define just what a "Digital Hub" is.



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    The two giants will detail their latest assault at this week's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. There they plan to discuss a series of products that they say will make it easier to use PCs to organize movies, music and television shows while shuttling that media around the home.



    What better time for Apple to announce a product or products that address this key area currently being embraced by the Wintel duopoly? Apple can be a player in a concept they have focused on (digital hub) or they can be relegated to the sidelines by neglecting to address, like it or not, a KEY part of a true digital hub.



    Digital Hub without TV capabilities? Where's the beef?
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  • Reply 82 of 135
    Eugene, why cant the iBox sit on the network too? It would make sense for such a device to be a dedicated TV device, another resource on the network. Like the internet itself, home networks will be based on the idea that there isn't 1 hub, but a number of connected devices. Now, Apple could ignore this segment of the market if it wishes too, as you have said there are other players. But what if Apple did produce something - another iDevice to further support the platform and iTMS in particular.
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  • Reply 83 of 135
    P.S. As to crowded markets with giants at play, the computer market looks a bit more cut throat than the STB market don't you think?
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  • Reply 84 of 135
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    not a STB but...

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    Dear Paul



    Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding a FW version of AlchemyTV?.



    I am please to say that within the next coming month or so, Miglia Technology will be releasing a FW400 version of AlchemyTV? aimed at the PowerBook and imac audience. Pricing is yet to be confirmed but will be similar to the existing AlchemyTV? range. Details will soon be announce on the Miglia website.



    Best Regards



    Matt Warren

    Business Development Manager

    Miglia Technology Ltd



    there is your "low cost" (read: about $200 max) FireWire TV input...
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  • Reply 85 of 135
    Looks like Philips have been thinking along these lines too:



    http://www.streamium.com/



    Enjoy the freedom of enriched audio and video entertainment - anywhere, at any time, on any device. This new dimension in Entertainment becomes reality with the new Philips Streamium line of products.





    Allows you to stream your music, photo and video content from your computer to your TV or other computers in the house. Also allows you to DL content direct from the web. Doesn't have a PVR though.
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  • Reply 86 of 135
    whisperwhisper Posts: 735member
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    Originally posted by Paul

    not a STB but...





    there is your "low cost" (read: about $200 max) FireWire TV input...




    SWEET! That's exactly what I've been looking for ever since... I don't remember when I started looking for one. Thanks, this news will keep me happy for at least 42 minutes .
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  • Reply 87 of 135
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
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    there is your "low cost" (read: about $200 max) FireWire TV input...



    Sweet! That's what I've been looking for since I found that the the Formac DV Studio thing costs about £250.



    I the meantime, does anyone have any hints for transferring analogue (VHS) video to a Mac, via an All In Wonder card on a Windows PC?
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  • Reply 88 of 135
    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
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    Originally posted by Stoo

    Sweet! That's what I've been looking for since I found that the the Formac DV Studio thing costs about £250.



    I the meantime, does anyone have any hints for transferring analogue (VHS) video to a Mac, via an All In Wonder card on a Windows PC?




    You'd be using the "non-standard" at best All-in-Wonder specific apps, but other than that it is basically just converting to a valid digital format (mpeg). I used to use a pretty generic DOS-based app with a gui wrapper called avi2mpg. Just google on that, you'll find it. That was ages ago though.



    Now if there is anything analog I need to convert, I just use my Sony digital camcorder since it has a built-in analog-to-digital converter. Then, it's just firewire to Final Cut Express.
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  • Reply 89 of 135
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
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    Originally posted by musicaltone

    P.S. As to crowded markets with giants at play, the computer market looks a bit more cut throat than the STB market don't you think?



    It IS a cutthroat market for a newcomer. Apple isn't a newcomer.



    But still, Cable companies are giving away these STBs for pennies. This would be akin to Earthlink, MSN, Comcast, AOL letting you rent a computer for $5/mo.



    Does Apple really want to compete?
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  • Reply 90 of 135
    aphelionaphelion Posts: 736member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Eugene

    Does Apple really want to compete?



    Yes, Eugene, that is the question.
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  • Reply 91 of 135
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by musicaltone

    Looks like Philips have been thinking along these lines too:



    http://www.streamium.com/



    Enjoy the freedom of enriched audio and video entertainment - anywhere, at any time, on any device. This new dimension in Entertainment becomes reality with the new Philips Streamium line of products.





    Allows you to stream your music, photo and video content from your computer to your TV or other computers in the house. Also allows you to DL content direct from the web. Doesn't have a PVR though.






    Heh. Ask and you shall recieve. The price is way too high though, I think that's a serious mistake. Drop (or make optional) the WiFi crap and optimize the cost of goods.
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  • Reply 92 of 135
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Eugene

    It IS a cutthroat market for a newcomer. Apple isn't a newcomer.



    But still, Cable companies are giving away these STBs for pennies. This would be akin to Earthlink, MSN, Comcast, AOL letting you rent a computer for $5/mo.



    Does Apple really want to compete?




    Geez and I paid $600 for my STB (PVR) from Dish, bummer. Too bad they don't have cable 15-miles north of Tuscarora, Nevada.
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  • Reply 93 of 135
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
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    Originally posted by Bigc

    Geez and I paid $600 for my STB (PVR) from Dish, bummer. Too bad they don't have cable 15-miles north of Tuscarora, Nevada.



    They don't let you rent the boxes at Dish? That stinks! Right now the rate is $5/mo + one of the standard packages for HD Cable. That includes the HD tuner rental. I imagine the HD-DVR will be an additional $10/mo. In order to pay off a $600 DVR purchase, that would mean owning it for several years! Better to rent stuff like this because you can just go to the Comcast office/pay center in your area and trade-up to the newest model when they come.
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  • Reply 94 of 135
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Holy crap, this is exactly what I was talking about above. I can't wait to read some reviews of it -- if it works as-claimed I'm order 3, plus the DVR box for my Mac.



    Somebody out there is reading my mind...
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  • Reply 95 of 135
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Can anyone explain to me why, if the EyeGato TV box does the video encoding, it requires a 500MHz G4??



    Just knocked themselves out of my product search, they did.
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  • Reply 96 of 135
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    Can anyone explain to me why, if the EyeGato TV box does the video encoding, it requires a 500MHz G4??



    Just knocked themselves out of my product search, they did.




    They might just be covering their butts -- make sure the machine is fast enough to do the file serving in the background without disrupting the foreground user. You could ask 'em if your hardware is up to it if you're not actively using the Mac.
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  • Reply 97 of 135
    limtclimtc Posts: 82member
    I am now running EyeHome on 500MHz G3 Blue Dalmation iMac. No, you don't need a G4 on this.
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  • Reply 98 of 135
    limtclimtc Posts: 82member
    Programmer, let me know what you think.
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  • Reply 99 of 135
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Paul

    not a STB but...





    there is your "low cost" (read: about $200 max) FireWire TV input...




    Just got a response of 'a couple of months' from Miglia.



    Here's hoping...
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  • Reply 100 of 135
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by limtc

    Programmer, let me know what you think.



    About what?









    How do you like that EyeHome? Do you have an EyeTV too? How'd you get it so soon?
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